Capitalism, why does it ignore the farmer?

[bitbunnni]

People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism to me is still the best form of economic policy no matter how people paint to be bad. When some people try as much as possible to have sleepless light and later got successful then decides to change cars or live in expensive mansions then you see the community coming out to say what of the people that cannot afford one, but the issue is what were they looking when others are working hard to be successful. Thats what capitalism preaches to me that in as much you can work hard then you can be rich if luck is on your side not the economy that will restrict your growth at the expense of lazy people in the community...

In this regard, even the bitcoin currency is very suitable for its anonymity in order to be able to break one's business without any interference. Only if we take such a system, ideally, is to my mind are broken personal interests and the state will suffer.

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[Ronxawala]

People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

There's  nothing wrong to promote local products and make proud, but it depends on the quality of the product.  Well, I can say that  in my country some products are local.  If I want to buy branded,I will go to the store relatively expensive.Those goods may satisfy human needs but those needs will not be met if people do not have sufficient money.

The whole point in the competition and in order to give work to break the other. We need more and seek a balance in everything. If the market will deal with one defendant, the monopoly to the good development of the economy will not.

[Theb]

People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

There's  nothing wrong to promote local products and make proud, but it depends on the quality of the product.  Well, I can say that  in my country some products are local.  If I want to buy branded,I will go to the store relatively expensive.Those goods may satisfy human needs but those needs will not be met if people do not have sufficient money.

The whole point in the competition and in order to give work to break the other. We need more and seek a balance in everything. If the market will deal with one defendant, the monopoly to the good development of the economy will not.

The government support Domestic companies too from policies and laws like Foreign Companies have different kinds of Income Tax compared to the Domestic counterpart, laws such as Foreign companies are not allowed to own a real estate, or even 51% of the ventured company needs to be locally owned. This evens out the unfair advantage of Foreign companies entering to a new country it is up to them on how they will succeed in the new country.

[buharikx31]

Capitalism - one of the most successful bussiness and economy theorys. Capitalism are based on private ownership that means of production and their operation for profit. A lot of countries like UAE , US, China, Japan have free market for people who are intrested to earn. And people who are private owners or having ther own bussiness they would never change they idea of "capitalism" to any other "communism" ideology, because of opportunities

[jossiel]

Capitalism - one of the most successful bussiness and economy theorys. Capitalism are based on private ownership that means of production and their operation for profit. A lot of countries like UAE , US, China, Japan have free market for people who are intrested to earn. And people who are private owners or having ther own bussiness they would never change they idea of "capitalism" to any other "communism" ideology, because of opportunities

No doubt that those countries seems to have a very good economic stability especially with Japan, I admire this country for being capitalist.

If we are going to compare countries that are implementing capitalism to non-capitalist, capitalists countries are very successful.

And those that aren't, seems to be dependent on other countries product, shipment, import-export economy.

[LeGaulois]

One good point posted by Docnaster is that people should promote local products and more important buy local. It doesn't make sense to import products from the opposite of the world. Why buy milk from 10 hours driving when there are farmers in you area. Farmers who struggle to sell their milk for a decent price (as for exemple in Europe the price is controlled by europe, farmers don't decide the price they want to sell, crazy isn't?) There are farmers who for exemple, producing 1L of milk cost them 0.50$ and they are forced to sell it at $0.35. Where are the profits ?
If the big firms were acting like this they would go bankrupt in no time... There are farmers working 60 hours per week and earning less than someone lazy ass and feed by the gov. money each month. Now since some years there are companies that finally realized buying local not only help the local economy but it cost them cheaper at the end. Less import cost, less this, less that.

[Xester]

One good point posted by Docnaster is that people should promote local products and more important buy local. It doesn't make sense to import products from the opposite of the world. Why buy milk from 10 hours driving when there are farmers in you area. Farmers who struggle to sell their milk for a decent price (as for exemple in Europe the price is controlled by europe, farmers don't decide the price they want to sell, crazy isn't?) There are farmers who for exemple, producing 1L of milk cost them 0.50$ and they are forced to sell it at $0.35. Where are the profits ?
If the big firms were acting like this they would go bankrupt in no time... There are farmers working 60 hours per week and earning less than someone lazy ass and feed by the gov. money each month. Now since some years there are companies that finally realized buying local not only help the local economy but it cost them cheaper at the end. Less import cost, less this, less that.

It is not the fault of big milk companies but we cannot blame the farmers either or the government. But the moment we saw this problems at hand we must in our power to do something about it. The thing we should do is to organize the farmers and create an association and tap the government for assistance. That way those farmers will upgrade their technology while increasing production and capturing a large market.

[buharikx31]

Capitalism - one of the most successful bussiness and economy theorys. Capitalism are based on private ownership that means of production and their operation for profit. A lot of countries like UAE , US, China, Japan have free market for people who are intrested to earn. And people who are private owners or having ther own bussiness they would never change they idea of "capitalism" to any other "communism" ideology, because of opportunities

No doubt that those countries seems to have a very good economic stability especially with Japan, I admire this country for being capitalist.

If we are going to compare countries that are implementing capitalism to non-capitalist, capitalists countries are very successful.

And those that aren't, seems to be dependent on other countries product, shipment, import-export economy.

I am totally agree, with your opinion. Only strong countries, which provides free market rules and capitalistic freedom for people, have better economic situation against non-capitalist countries as you marked. And if we talk about education, health and life quality it always insanely stronger

[DeanShow]

One good point posted by Docnaster is that people should promote local products and more important buy local. It doesn't make sense to import products from the opposite of the world. Why buy milk from 10 hours driving when there are farmers in you area. Farmers who struggle to sell their milk for a decent price (as for exemple in Europe the price is controlled by europe, farmers don't decide the price they want to sell, crazy isn't?) There are farmers who for exemple, producing 1L of milk cost them 0.50$ and they are forced to sell it at $0.35. Where are the profits ?
If the big firms were acting like this they would go bankrupt in no time... There are farmers working 60 hours per week and earning less than someone lazy ass and feed by the gov. money each month. Now since some years there are companies that finally realized buying local not only help the local economy but it cost them cheaper at the end. Less import cost, less this, less that.

It is not the fault of big milk companies but we cannot blame the farmers either or the government. But the moment we saw this problems at hand we must in our power to do something about it. The thing we should do is to organize the farmers and create an association and tap the government for assistance. That way those farmers will upgrade their technology while increasing production and capturing a large market.

The majority of Western countries pay subsidies to agricultural workers. I don't know why under capitalism choose such a strategy. This leads to the fact that the price of food is very low and the farmers are always under threat of ruin.

[buwaytress]

One good point posted by Docnaster is that people should promote local products and more important buy local. It doesn't make sense to import products from the opposite of the world. Why buy milk from 10 hours driving when there are farmers in you area. Farmers who struggle to sell their milk for a decent price (as for exemple in Europe the price is controlled by europe, farmers don't decide the price they want to sell, crazy isn't?) There are farmers who for exemple, producing 1L of milk cost them 0.50$ and they are forced to sell it at $0.35. Where are the profits ?
If the big firms were acting like this they would go bankrupt in no time... There are farmers working 60 hours per week and earning less than someone lazy ass and feed by the gov. money each month. Now since some years there are companies that finally realized buying local not only help the local economy but it cost them cheaper at the end. Less import cost, less this, less that.

It is not the fault of big milk companies but we cannot blame the farmers either or the government. But the moment we saw this problems at hand we must in our power to do something about it. The thing we should do is to organize the farmers and create an association and tap the government for assistance. That way those farmers will upgrade their technology while increasing production and capturing a large market.

The majority of Western countries pay subsidies to agricultural workers. I don't know why under capitalism choose such a strategy. This leads to the fact that the price of food is very low and the farmers are always under threat of ruin.

Capitalism is also about extremely good marketing, which to me works to reverse the traditional supply and demand rule. I lived for most of my life in Asia, where food products from Europe are marketed as "better" than local produce. Marketing makes a product like muesli suddenly desirable when local fresh produce is a fraction of the cost but people suddenly demand European products because they now believe they need them.

Capitalist marketing creates demand, and then gets the supply to meet it. Local produce is driven down in price to attract more sales but it never works.

[Hydrogen]

One idea behind capitalism is, in a country with 10,000 people.

Every one of those 10,000 people have the right and freedom to start their own business, innovate an industry and own(copyright/patent) the ideas or inventions they create.

Under capitalism anyone could start a business that eventually goes on to become the next apple or google if they're smart and willing to put in the work.

Socialism is the opposite to this.

In a socialist country with 10,000 people, only a fraction of those 10,000 have the freedom to start their own business or own their ideas/inventions.

One might say capitalism is more effective at harnessing the collective intelligence, innovation and resources of a population which makes it s a better system.

While socialism hinders innovation and advancement.

This could be why capitalist south korea has a good economy and modern conveniences.

While socialist north korea lacks electricity and many basic modern amenities.

[PancherBitCoin]

One idea behind capitalism is, in a country with 10,000 people.

Every one of those 10,000 people have the right and freedom to start their own business, innovate an industry and own(copyright/patent) the ideas or inventions they create.

Under capitalism anyone could start a business that eventually goes on to become the next apple or google if they're smart and willing to put in the work.

Socialism is the opposite to this.

In a socialist country with 10,000 people, only a fraction of those 10,000 have the freedom to start their own business or own their ideas/inventions.

One might say capitalism is more effective at harnessing the collective intelligence, innovation and resources of a population which makes it s a better system.

While socialism hinders innovation and advancement.

This could be why capitalist south korea has a good economy and modern conveniences.

While socialist north korea lacks electricity and many basic modern amenities.

At the time, capitalism was considered in my country as a crime against the people. But then we did not know much and did not understand. Developing countries have always affects the well-being of people. But under capitalism it is a lot easier to do.

[jossiel]

Capitalism - one of the most successful bussiness and economy theorys. Capitalism are based on private ownership that means of production and their operation for profit. A lot of countries like UAE , US, China, Japan have free market for people who are intrested to earn. And people who are private owners or having ther own bussiness they would never change they idea of "capitalism" to any other "communism" ideology, because of opportunities

No doubt that those countries seems to have a very good economic stability especially with Japan, I admire this country for being capitalist.

If we are going to compare countries that are implementing capitalism to non-capitalist, capitalists countries are very successful.

And those that aren't, seems to be dependent on other countries product, shipment, import-export economy.

I am totally agree, with your opinion. Only strong countries, which provides free market rules and capitalistic freedom for people, have better economic situation against non-capitalist countries as you marked. And if we talk about education, health and life quality it always insanely stronger

I did some research and there are countries that did this before but changed it recently and it was a regret for them for changing capitalism.

People will support their very own government and the government will support their people with products and other things.

It's a win-win situation for a country that has this type of economy though most of the countries are implementing free-economy.

[Mumbeeptind1963]

People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Yeah right. If all people promote and use their own local product is a good way to of economic progress for any country. But many people in my country want to buy products that is from other country like phones, gadgets and many more to look them so rich even if they don't have enough money. So How to persuade that kind of mindset?

[DD-Lex]

People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Yeah right. If all people promote and use their own local product is a good way to of economic progress for any country. But many people in my country want to buy products that is from other country like phones, gadgets and many more to look them so rich even if they don't have enough money. So How to persuade that kind of mindset?

We must offer these people a good quality of the goods of own production, rather than unsubstantiated blame people that they want to live a normal life and to buy high-quality and reliable product. We need to develop their industry and to advertise their product.

[ArdiPrabowo]

capitalisme is not good in poor country
because product price is control company , goverment can't intervention, so product price can high price

[Hazir]

Capitalism in its basic incarnation (profits above everything) is inhuman economic system. Fortunately there is no country on Earth which embraced laissez-faire idea completely.
Pure capitalism is a myth, the amount of economic and social regulations we have now, effectively dimmed principles of true capitalism.
But it is not capitalism's fault that people destroyed their local industry and factories and everything you buy is "Made in China".
I am afraid that Op has on mind modern consumerism rather than capitalism.

[useless4]

capitalisme is not good in poor country
because product price is control company , goverment can't intervention, so product price can high price

capitalism is bad not only for poor countries, to be honest it is bad for most of the countries, just look at china for example, it's a communist country and its economy is just booming and it is growing at a very rapid pace, ussr was also a communist country and a lot of people were really happy living in it, but then capitalism came in and changed everything completely, there appeared tons of rich people and the poor people are becoming even poorer.

[funkenstein]

People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism has demonstrated that it is the only successful economic theory, with its competitors collapsing by the roadside over the last 100 years. Even China, which at one point was incorruptibly communist, has moved on. I think it is a bit too late to be talking about 'stopping capitalism'.

I agree with you, Capitalism is not perfect but has proven to be the best among all the economic theory, competition brings out the best in people just look at the rate of growth in tech companies in the past 15years, you can't get that if it is government controlled communism

The word is dead.  It has no meaning that people agree on.   

Instead why not use more words to actually describe policy and behavior? 

You could talk about trade practices, motivational factors of organizations, currency issuance, taxation, societal norms, distribution of surplus and management of scarcity; there are many real issues. 

"Capitalism" isn't one of them.  In theory you could make a definition and use it, but in practice It's too polemic a term to save. 

Oh and look at the rate of growth of tech companies, you'll see that intervention by money issuers and folks hiding behind the name of government agencies have played a huge role.  Mostly in a negative sense if you ask me but that's a separate issue.   

[chrisivl]

People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism has demonstrated that it is the only successful economic theory, with its competitors collapsing by the roadside over the last 100 years. Even China, which at one point was incorruptibly communist, has moved on. I think it is a bit too late to be talking about 'stopping capitalism'.

I agree with you, Capitalism is not perfect but has proven to be the best among all the economic theory, competition brings out the best in people just look at the rate of growth in tech companies in the past 15years, you can't get that if it is government controlled communism

The word is dead.  It has no meaning that people agree on.   

Instead why not use more words to actually describe policy and behavior? 

You could talk about trade practices, motivational factors of organizations, currency issuance, taxation, societal norms, distribution of surplus and management of scarcity; there are many real issues. 

"Capitalism" isn't one of them.  In theory you could make a definition and use it, but in practice It's too polemic a term to save. 

Oh and look at the rate of growth of tech companies, you'll see that intervention by money issuers and folks hiding behind the name of government agencies have played a huge role.  Mostly in a negative sense if you ask me but that's a separate issue.   

Maybe capitalism is no longer the future of the system, but we must understand that the progress that we have today, it is a merit of the political and economic system that has existed for over a hundred years.