Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns

[ampere9765]

i recommendate to use primedice/updown

my friend got 0,1-0,5 BTC/month

nice reccomend but its only full member or hero member newbie can't join this

There are no reputable signature campaigns that accept newbies or junior members (except Scratch Ticket, which is very low paying). I think this is the main reason why forum accounts get traded in the digital goods subforum.

Regarding newbies, I would very wary of that ponzi scheme site that is supposedly paying Newbies and Jr members for their signatures. I suppose we'll see whether they make their first payment in a few days...

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[hilariousandco]

They might pay out the first week or so. It'll probably only be dust anyway, but ponzis by their nature can dissapear at anytime so I'm sure people will be left out of pocket at some point.

[Mitchell]

UpDown.BT has switched to monthly payments with a 600 posts per month cap and a maximum of 60 participants.

[Salmon1989]

They might pay out the first week or so. It'll probably only be dust anyway, but ponzis by their nature can dissapear at anytime so I'm sure people will be left out of pocket at some point.

I highly doubt if he will pay.

As I mentioned already in that thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636079.msg7161148#msg7161148), the sig program haven't brought much attention to his ponzi and no one deposit (or, fall into the scam) after Jun 2 (the day the program went live) lol.

[izanagi narukami]

ask !
example :
UpDown.BT signature limited into 60 participants
Is there any chance that UpDown.BT signature change / roll over their participants to new participants or it already fix forever

[u9y42]

ask !
example :
UpDown.BT signature limited into 60 participants
Is there any chance that UpDown.BT signature change / roll over their participants to new participants or it already fix forever

Hmm, I'm not sure UpDown has reached 60 participants yet; but if they have and if you wanted to join them, you'd have to wait for someone to quit the campaign first before being able to join. Other than that, there might be openings if a member gets banned from the forum, or receives negative feedback from a forum user in the default trust list.

[hilariousandco]

I'd avoid UpDown.bit. Many people still seem to have not got what they were owed and the new limits now make it less appealing, not to mention you've got to wait a month now wondering what money you're actually going to get at the end of it.

[u9y42]

I'd avoid UpDown.bit. Many people still seem to have not got what they were owed and the new limits now make it less appealing, not to mention you've got to wait a month now wondering what money you're actually going to get at the end of it.

It wouldn't be so bad if the person managing the campaign actually showed up long enough to answer questions and explain the current situation; a couple of minutes, 4 days a week is not really enough.

Other than that, I'd give it the benefit of the doubt and join for a month; if UpDown was online long enough to confirm my application, that is.

[hilariousandco]

Exactly. He always disappears over the weekend and goes many days without even answering people's queries or confirming users. Then he comes back, most people get payouts even though many are not what they're supposed to be, and people still stick with him. Bizarre. I don't see how people can put faith in that system for an entire month when there's been problems every single week. I think he's just struggling with it himself. He should've took the help bitcoininformation offered.

[u9y42]

Exactly. He always disappears over the weekend and goes many days without even answering people's queries or confirming users. Then he comes back, most people get payouts even though many are not what they're supposed to be, and people still stick with him. Bizarre. I don't see how people can put faith in that system for an entire month when there's been problems every single week. I think he's just struggling with it himself. He should've took the help bitcoininformation offered.

True, he probably should have accepted bitcoininformation's help, but after what happened with Howzar, I can't really blame UpDown for wanting to take care of everything. And, as you say, he's probably struggling with having to handle the campaign by himself; in that sense, yes there have been problems, but I (and probably most people that are willing to stick with the campaign) don't see it as intentional, and hope it will go back to normal before the month is up. Could be wishful thinking, but still...

[hilariousandco]

What happened with Howzar was unfortunate and probably a rare occurrence. If money was held in another escrow as bitcoininformation suggested then the funds could've still been released to whoever. If he is indeed struggling then he should certainly employ someone else to look after the deals whether from within his own company or these forums. Running a shoddy advertising campaign is only going to have a counter-productive and negative impact on your business so it's worth doing it right. Run a flawless campaign where all your users are happy and that's great for business.

[Mitchell]

Well, UpDown.BT said that it was a hectic week with a lot of changes to their website. New features and all. That takes a lot of time, so I can understand why he isn't on Bitcointalk all the time. I still think that he should get a 3rd party to keep track of everything, but he doesn't want help, so there isn't much that I, or someone else, can do about it.

Also, I got paid just fine. Not for all my posts, but that's because he reduces your post count for bad posts. I don't know if the 60 participants is hit already. I have asked him in the thread, but haven't gotten a response yet.

[hilariousandco]

Also, I got paid just fine. Not for all my posts, but that's because he reduces your post count for bad posts.

I think you're just assuming that it's for bad posts or he's just using it as an excuse. I suspect he just didn't add or count the posts properly. He said to one user the posts will be carried over to the next period which he didn't get paid for and they never were. There are still several people from what I can gather who didn't get what they were owed. One user has opened a scam accusation thread because he apparently didn't get anything and not a single message was answerd.

[Mitchell]

Also, I got paid just fine. Not for all my posts, but that's because he reduces your post count for bad posts.

I think you're just assuming that it's for bad posts or he's just using it as an excuse. I suspect he just didn't add or count the posts properly. He said to one user the posts will be carried over to the next period which he didn't get paid for and they never were. There are still several people from what I can gather who didn't get what they were owed. One user has opened a scam accusation thread because he apparently didn't get anything and not a single message was answerd.

Well, it's quite clear in the opening post that he doesn't pay for posts that aren't quality/constructive/on-topic/contributing. So yes, I am going to assume that I didn't get paid for certain posts, since it's the most logical assumption.
I can understand why someone would open such a topic, but I doubt he will get a faster answer because of that, haha. If someone is busy, that person is busy. Not much you can do about it.

[hilariousandco]

Well, it's quite clear in the opening post that he doesn't pay for posts that aren't quality/constructive/on-topic/contributing. So yes, I am going to assume that I didn't get paid for certain posts, since it's the most logical assumption. 

I can understand why someone would open such a topic, but I doubt he will get a faster answer because of that, haha. If someone is busy, that person is busy. Not much you can do about it.

Nah, the most logical explanation is that he didn't calculate what he should be paying people right, but if you're ok with telling yourself it's for bad posts then that's fine for you, but not for everyone else who feels they've been cheated. And how many posts did you make that wern't 'quality/constructive/on-topic/contributing' exactly?

And the scam accusation doesn't require his response, but it might force him to stop being incompetent or ignoring people when the reputation of his business is being tarnished by accusations of scams/non-payment.

[Mitchell]

Nah, the most logical explanation is that he didn't calculate what he should be paying people right, but if you're ok with telling yourself it's for bad posts then that's fine for you, but not for everyone else who feels they've been cheated.

Not really to be honest. If he states something in the OP, he can (and most likely will) use it. But that is what I think and I can be wrong of course.

And how many posts did you make that wern't 'quality/constructive/on-topic/contributing' exactly?

Around 10 or 15 and I don't mind at all. I can understand it with the thing that I am assuming.

And the scam accusation doesn't require his response, but it might force him to stop being incompetent or ignoring people when the reputation of his business is being tarnished by accusations of scams/non-payment.

Well, that is a bit harsh, but I agree with you.

[hilariousandco]

It doesn't say that you might not get paid anything because the op is too busy to check or confirm people's sign-ups anywhere. I don't think it's harsh at all especially when he seems to respond to next to zero messages or forum queries, but I'm surprised you're making excuses for him. I don't believe he has any intention to scam or not pay people what they are owed or whatever but he really needs to get on top of things because it will damage his company's reputation if he doesn't. 

[Peter882]

Some reported that participants only need to make 25 posts a week to get paid in the scratchticket program.
Could you cross-check it with the site owner?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=493236.msg7179922#msg7179922

[Mayuyu48]

I'd avoid UpDown.bit. Many people still seem to have not got what they were owed and the new limits now make it less appealing, not to mention you've got to wait a month now wondering what money you're actually going to get at the end of it.

good choice, updown.bt is not professional signature campaign. not recommended!
i signed up their campaign two weeks ago, they never confirm nor pay me
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7157442#msg7157442
they just want free advertising from us, who knows next month they'll run away without payment
i wait one week to become full member and join PD again
too bad if we join signature campaign, promoting their site, but owner of campaign doesn't care with us!

[Mitchell]

Well, a lot people got paid and some didn't. It is a bit vague, will add the * again to the campaign.