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April 16, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
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I would like to hear your Opinions. After 6 months of promises and not delivering do you think there will finally be shipped something or not?

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April 16, 2013, 05:02:21 PM
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I think they will ship something. The question is... what?
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April 16, 2013, 05:03:21 PM
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Nobody really knows.
It looks like it but for some reason there are alot of people who believes in this company.
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April 16, 2013, 05:04:48 PM
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depends on definition of scam. it is quite legit company, just incapable of delivering what it sold.
if you would preorder duke nukem forever, wait 10 years of delays and it was quite bad int the end, is it scam or not?
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April 16, 2013, 05:08:25 PM
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They are having problems and n some sense maybe not handling them well.  Luke-JR has a device in order to write the mining software for it.  so it does exist and does mine. 

They will ship, just not sure when.

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April 16, 2013, 05:15:38 PM
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Nobody really knows.
It looks like it but for some reason there are alot of people who believes in this company.
There is a need to believe. Avalon's 75 BTC miner is out of most people's price range.
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April 16, 2013, 05:25:50 PM
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its not a scam, but they are delaying the release date because they are mining at their own, with your asics
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April 16, 2013, 05:31:18 PM
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its not a scam, but they are delaying the release date because they are mining at their own, with your asics

This is something i thought about a lot. Imagine your are souless person. The perfect business model for you:

- You don't need money you customers are paying the machine through the preorders
- You get such a large quantity of computers
- you mine with them and grow rich
- meanwhile you tell everyone about technical difficulties
- in the end you deliver so no trial no court but you got rich with others people money

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April 16, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
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While they may or may not be scammers, they are indeed liars, which can clearly be seen by the never-ending shipment delays. I think most people would agree that liars are more likely to scam, especially when they are not even willing to own up to their lies.

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April 16, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
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its not a scam, but they are delaying the release date because they are mining at their own, with your asics

So it's a scam but not really a scam?
Awesome logic.
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April 16, 2013, 05:43:07 PM
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No its a scam, when you take money and lie you are scamming.
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April 16, 2013, 05:47:22 PM
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No its a scam, when you take money and lie you are scamming.

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April 16, 2013, 06:16:54 PM
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They are scam in my eyes, no reaction at all since ages.
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April 16, 2013, 06:18:13 PM
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i think they will ship at some point, but it will be a while.
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April 16, 2013, 07:22:25 PM
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its clearly a scam
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April 16, 2013, 07:28:35 PM
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I would like to hear your Opinions. After 6 months of promises and not delivering do you think there will finally be shipped something or not?

Greetings

Here is a prior 23 page post on whether BFL is a scam or not.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.0



 
 
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April 16, 2013, 07:31:51 PM
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Partly yes, delivery date promises then constant delays due to in part what is probably just poor engineering from the ground up. Avalons are ugly to look at but from what i've read they seem reliable and reasonably efficient compared to any GPU rig. (Butterfly Labs if you're reading this, they don't need to be pretty and they don't need to be super power efficient (as nice as it would be) mining 50Ghs at 600 Watts is fine by me.) We really need a new competitor in this field someone who's ready to deliver now (a man can dream). That being said beware of scams tons of those out there right now.
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April 16, 2013, 07:34:01 PM
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I would like to hear your Opinions. After 6 months of promises and not delivering do you think there will finally be shipped something or not?

Greetings

Here is a prior 23 page post on whether BFL is a scam or not.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.0



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April 16, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
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depends on definition of scam. it is quite legit company, just incapable of delivering what it sold.
if you would preorder duke nukem forever, wait 10 years of delays and it was quite bad int the end, is it scam or not?
Great comparison! Couldn't have said it better myself!

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April 16, 2013, 07:46:34 PM
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Avalons are ugly to look at but from what i've read they seem reliable and reasonably efficient compared to any GPU rig.

The first part of the quoted statement is subjective. I find Avalons to be fine looking machines.

The second part of that sentence is rather silly. Avalons are not "reasonably efficient compared to any GPU rig". Avalons are an order of magnitude more efficient than the most efficient GPU rig. There's no way you could assemble anything near 66Gh/s of Bitcoin mining hardware based on GPUs and have them consume 620w. Not even close.

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