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February 08, 2017, 08:30:09 PM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

The authorities already do this in my country. But the criminals are smart and they hide what they stole. Even after serving time they come out and are funded to keep doing crime. Its a state of mind you cannot change someone's mind even with prison.
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February 08, 2017, 08:41:59 PM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

The authorities already do this in my country. But the criminals are smart and they hide what they stole. Even after serving time they come out and are funded to keep doing crime. Its a state of mind you cannot change someone's mind even with prison.
If the person is corrupt, it is always possible to find the money to forfeit. Just investigation are the same corrupt as he is and therefore the money does not find. To fight corruption it is necessary that the journalists were investigating transferred materials to Prosecutor's office and got a piece of the confiscated property.
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February 08, 2017, 08:55:14 PM
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Have the criminals corrupt themselves.
As they say: Evil will do upon itself and eradicate the wicked from all of this earth. Grin
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February 09, 2017, 01:34:28 AM
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Have the criminals corrupt themselves.
As they say: Evil will do upon itself and eradicate the wicked from all of this earth. Grin

That would just worsen the scenario. If they are corrupting themselves, they will soon corrupt the system and all will do the same and will result to much worst. Better to stop them while they are doing it and eradicate them.  But that's true, if they kill each other because of it, that's great, which is highly unlikely to happen, as they would just connive with each other to do a much bigger conspiracy to corrupt more.

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February 09, 2017, 10:37:41 AM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

The best way to eradicate corruption is to begin at home. The government must focus on the child rearing and child nurturing of parents to their children inside the family to strengthen the values and morals of the children so that they will have strong will to overcome greed that is the main source of corruption. If the government together with the parents will not focus on this aspect then corruption will not leave all sectors of society.
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February 09, 2017, 10:41:54 AM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

Yeah i agree. It's already proven that a lot of corrupt people who actually were sent to jail can live luxurious lives even inside correctional institutions. These people already have a lot of money that can influence those who uphold the law so there's ni sense in sending them to prison where they'd just live like kings. I admire the people from japan who up to know still value moral and honor. I think corrupt people should be given the most severe punishment because they affect more people's lives than regular criminals

 
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February 09, 2017, 12:13:09 PM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

Yeah i agree. It's already proven that a lot of corrupt people who actually were sent to jail can live luxurious lives even inside correctional institutions. These people already have a lot of money that can influence those who uphold the law so there's ni sense in sending them to prison where they'd just live like kings. I admire the people from japan who up to know still value moral and honor. I think corrupt people should be given the most severe punishment because they affect more people's lives than regular criminals
And who can watch over this? Corruption to persist unites the corrupt officials in the club. They are everywhere and we care about each other in order for this phenomenon is preserved.
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February 09, 2017, 02:59:31 PM
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Justice is a myth as long as money is a factor

Politicians and police and anyone in the government can be trusted just as much as the people in prison or people that live on the street.

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February 09, 2017, 03:13:22 PM
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This is a pretty hard question. As much as the people would like corruption to stop, there are a lot of politicians who would rather make themselves rich. We can just hope and pray that later on these people will realize that it's going to result in a major disaster if they don't stop.
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February 09, 2017, 10:20:57 PM
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To eradicate corruption  there should be  transparency and openness in government spending. In our country every public official should submit their SALN before and after their term. But the best way is to pay the civil servants well. In that case , they'll not be attempted to get funds from the government illegally. IN contrary, people who is preoccupied in getting rich will do anything just to get what they want even using illegal means. That's the sad truth.
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February 09, 2017, 11:18:12 PM
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Confiscate all of his wealth is a great idea however the one take took the effect is not only him, but also his family, and prison means nothing for the corruptor, i think the best way is exile them or maybe a dead sentence
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February 10, 2017, 01:24:28 AM
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Confiscate all of his wealth is a great idea however the one take took the effect is not only him, but also his family, and prison means nothing for the corruptor, i think the best way is exile them or maybe a dead sentence
I think that just to confiscate funds and property from corrupt will not work. All their wealth on relatives and friends. They have nothing. I think that the corrupt officials to impose the death penalty and be given the opportunity to pay off.
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February 10, 2017, 03:43:52 AM
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Confiscate all of his wealth is a great idea however the one take took the effect is not only him, but also his family, and prison means nothing for the corruptor, i think the best way is exile them or maybe a dead sentence

Exiling them to other country would just excite them and probably make them free of any charges the state might file, or if the state did, probably they would escape since they are already outside the country. Putting them in prison, removing all their rights, including their right to communicate with people outside the prison, and isolate them from other prisoners with just water and food is enough. So others may learn how hard it is to be in prison because of corruption.  Smiley That's cruel I think.

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February 10, 2017, 05:47:29 AM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
those people who are found guilty in corruption must be sentence to death for them to fear the law !Since they will just go to prison these people don't fear anything if ever they will found guilty ! these people are stealing people money so it is just right for them to suffer this kind of consequences ! I am pretty sure that when it become implemented government officials that are corrupt will be lessen but will not vanished!
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February 10, 2017, 05:59:08 AM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
those people who are found guilty in corruption must be sentence to death for them to fear the law !Since they will just go to prison these people don't fear anything if ever they will found guilty ! these people are stealing people money so it is just right for them to suffer this kind of consequences ! I am pretty sure that when it become implemented government officials that are corrupt will be lessen but will not vanished!

No, that's not going to be effective. Death penalty won't be a solution to corruption, in fact it can become a reason the case might end and the suspected corrupt official had already relayed his wealth to other family member... With that said, death would just make the process short, but never really solve it... When we punish, lets prolong the agony, in short lets make them suffer more...

Besides, corrupt officials are clever, who knows, they might find a escape goat and they are already free from charges...  Smiley
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February 10, 2017, 06:57:32 AM
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In my country corruption imprisoned in a very luxurious by paying some money. One of the TV station in my country broadcast a prison corruption perpetrators is like apartments and there are many facilities such as tv, laptop, bathroom, dining room, and even they can get out to meet her family with a certain time limit. More ironically again the corruption money is not returned so it can be enjoyed by the perpetrators and their families. Efficient way to eradicate corruption maybe with a maximum prison and bring back the money stolen, or may be able to emulate China which execute  the perpetrators of corruption with hanged or shot.
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February 10, 2017, 02:06:18 PM
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corruption has been always a part of politics maybe even in the beginning of politicscorruption  will never be out of role , I believe it's because of lack of guidelines regarding that that the punishment is too low for them to be afraid ! if someone will just speak up and raise a bill regarding corruption acts that will insanely be afraid those are corrupts maybe it will stop or it will be lessen close to non

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February 10, 2017, 02:19:29 PM
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corruption has been always a part of politics maybe even in the beginning of politicscorruption  will never be out of role , I believe it's because of lack of guidelines regarding that that the punishment is too low for them to be afraid ! if someone will just speak up and raise a bill regarding corruption acts that will insanely be afraid those are corrupts maybe it will stop or it will be lessen close to non
Because people nowadays don't really contented and satisfied what they do have and if you are in politics it is to get money so they are persuaded in money. Although not all people can do that but sad to say almost all politicians can especially here in our country. Maybe because they want to secure themselves and their family in the future.
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February 10, 2017, 03:00:05 PM
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corruption has been always a part of politics maybe even in the beginning of politicscorruption  will never be out of role , I believe it's because of lack of guidelines regarding that that the punishment is too low for them to be afraid ! if someone will just speak up and raise a bill regarding corruption acts that will insanely be afraid those are corrupts maybe it will stop or it will be lessen close to non
Because people nowadays don't really contented and satisfied what they do have and if you are in politics it is to get money so they are persuaded in money. Although not all people can do that but sad to say almost all politicians can especially here in our country. Maybe because they want to secure themselves and their family in the future.
The corrupt will never be able to protect themselves. It always depends on the authorities. As soon as the authorities which he pays for silence will change it is always possible arrest, but his family will be provided for all.
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February 10, 2017, 03:03:43 PM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.

I am happy you said 'if' so which means if I am not caught, I am not corrupt and the government wouldnt have stopped any corruption in the first place even in countries where there is capital punishment for corruption people still engage in it. So they would have done more if the worst that would have happen to them is losing the wealth. The best way is to block the source of the wealth when there is no too much money only few will be available for stealing.
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