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April 27, 2017, 03:42:15 PM
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"Now you're playing with power"

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April 27, 2017, 03:47:49 PM
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Northeast gets some decent production too. April showers raining on my generation lately. but here was a couple days ago


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April 27, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
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Northeast gets some decent production too. April showers raining on my generation lately. but here was a couple days ago

Looks much better.  I'm anxious to see what my production curve will look like in July.  I'm also beginning to piece together a wind turbine system.  I'm wondering if those cheap smart plugs that chart energy usage via wifi would also chart energy production so I could have some data there.  If anyone knows the answer, or is able to give a simple energy production tracking method for a standard outlet I would love to hear it.

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April 27, 2017, 04:10:43 PM
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Northeast gets some decent production too. April showers raining on my generation lately. but here was a couple days ago

Looks much better.  I'm anxious to see what my production curve will look like in July.  I'm also beginning to piece together a wind turbine system.  I'm wondering if those cheap smart plugs that chart energy usage via wifi would also chart energy production so I could have some data there.  If anyone knows the answer, or is able to give a simple energy production tracking method for a standard outlet I would love to hear it.

You mean like this:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Monitoring-Required-Assistant-HS110/dp/B0178IC5ZY
Notice the remote shutoff that someone does not control..


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April 27, 2017, 04:28:00 PM
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Yes, but will it track production the same way it tracks usage?  I would assume so given that it is AC, but my electronics classes were many moons ago.

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April 27, 2017, 04:45:39 PM
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There is no way a plug can monitor production.
my SunPower is setup to show both overall production and overall usage.


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April 27, 2017, 05:06:37 PM
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There is no way a plug can monitor production.

Sure there is.  Any regular kill-a-watt meter will do it.

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April 27, 2017, 06:06:12 PM
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There is no way a plug can monitor production.

Sure there is.  Any regular kill-a-watt meter will do it.

News to me.

My utility meter outside shows energy flowing out of the grid and energy flowing into the grid separately. But it is unaware of energy being consumed as it it being generated.
The SunPower meter knows because of configuration being middle man between solar panels, grid and relay panel.

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April 27, 2017, 07:44:48 PM
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There is no way a plug can monitor production.

Sure there is.  Any regular kill-a-watt meter will do it.

News to me.

My utility meter outside shows energy flowing out of the grid and energy flowing into the grid separately. But it is unaware of energy being consumed as it it being generated.
The SunPower meter knows because of configuration being middle man between solar panels, grid and relay panel.


I've used kill-a-watt's before to measure energy consumption, it just measures the flow passing between the outlet & the device(s).

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April 27, 2017, 07:58:32 PM
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There is no way a plug can monitor production.

Sure there is.  Any regular kill-a-watt meter will do it.

News to me.

My utility meter outside shows energy flowing out of the grid and energy flowing into the grid separately. But it is unaware of energy being consumed as it it being generated.
The SunPower meter knows because of configuration being middle man between solar panels, grid and relay panel.


I've used kill-a-watt's before to measure energy consumption, it just measures the flow passing between the outlet & the device(s).

I'll have to do some testing once I get a wind turbine up and running, but I am hoping that a typical smart outlet will be capable of tracking the energy production from an inverter.  As shown in the previously linked video, it is easy to monitor using a kill-a-watt (and there are even wifi hacks available), but I want an out of the box wifi enabled monitoring solution with elegant built-in tracking software.

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April 27, 2017, 08:29:08 PM
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There is no way a plug can monitor production.

Sure there is.  Any regular kill-a-watt meter will do it.

News to me.

My utility meter outside shows energy flowing out of the grid and energy flowing into the grid separately. But it is unaware of energy being consumed as it it being generated.
The SunPower meter knows because of configuration being middle man between solar panels, grid and relay panel.


I've used kill-a-watt's before to measure energy consumption, it just measures the flow passing between the outlet & the device(s).

I'll have to do some testing once I get a wind turbine up and running, but I am hoping that a typical smart outlet will be capable of tracking the energy production from an inverter.  As shown in the previously linked video, it is easy to monitor using a kill-a-watt (and there are even wifi hacks available), but I want an out of the box wifi enabled monitoring solution with elegant built-in tracking software.

This should be able to do it when paired with Samsung Smart Things

https://slickdeals.net/f/9995632-aeon-labs-aeotec-z-wave-smart-energy-meter-15-more-free-shipping

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April 27, 2017, 08:34:13 PM
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There is no way a plug can monitor production.

Sure there is.  Any regular kill-a-watt meter will do it.

News to me.

My utility meter outside shows energy flowing out of the grid and energy flowing into the grid separately. But it is unaware of energy being consumed as it it being generated.
The SunPower meter knows because of configuration being middle man between solar panels, grid and relay panel.


I've used kill-a-watt's before to measure energy consumption, it just measures the flow passing between the outlet & the device(s).

I'll have to do some testing once I get a wind turbine up and running, but I am hoping that a typical smart outlet will be capable of tracking the energy production from an inverter.  As shown in the previously linked video, it is easy to monitor using a kill-a-watt (and there are even wifi hacks available), but I want an out of the box wifi enabled monitoring solution with elegant built-in tracking software.

I've seen the xbee hack before using a rpi... Kill-a-watt makes a wifi model out of the box but it's not elegant and probably only works out of the box with its own display/receiver and likely has minimal tracking, I doubt it is anything you could pull the data from remotely if that is what your trying to do?  I believe placing the device after the inverter should effectively monitor "production" in the sense that it is monitoring the energy coming out of the inverter

TED 5000C and eMonitor are some others you might want to look at
and "The Owl" might be another manufacturer to look at.

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April 28, 2017, 03:07:12 AM
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I wouldn't go near anywhere near anything IoT-related at the moment. At least not until IoT developers get their security act together: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/04/a-vigilante-is-putting-huge-amount-of-work-into-infecting-iot-devices/

Worst they could do is disable the wind turbine...  Not a big concern.  As far as a simple energy monitor with wifi, I was thinking more along the lines of something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Monitoring-Wireless-Household-Appliances/dp/B01M3MYIFS/

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May 03, 2017, 05:06:44 AM
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A 1.2kW 48v wind turbine & grid tie have been purchased for this project courtesy of YoBit.net.  Installation is currently predicted to occur early next month.

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May 03, 2017, 09:33:40 AM
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A 1.2kW 48v wind turbine & grid tie have been purchased for this project courtesy of YoBit.net.  Installation is currently predicted to occur early next month.

Can you send links to the wind turbine. Not sure if my neighbors would appreciate looking at one but, very curious.

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May 03, 2017, 09:56:48 AM
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Any thought on helping with the efficiency (even a little) by utilizing Peltier modules to turn waste heat into power (ever if enough to power a fan). I know it woun't be much and possibly negative as far as cost vs savings for a long time. I have a few modules lying around to experiment with on other projects and could provide some data if needed.

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May 03, 2017, 05:04:41 PM
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Can you send links to the wind turbine. Not sure if my neighbors would appreciate looking at one but, very curious.

I have not been able to find any manufacturer links online for the wind turbine.  I haven't unboxed it yet though, so perhaps there is some information in the instructions that I will be able to link to online.


Any thought on helping with the efficiency (even a little) by utilizing Peltier modules to turn waste heat into power (ever if enough to power a fan). I know it woun't be much and possibly negative as far as cost vs savings for a long time. I have a few modules lying around to experiment with on other projects and could provide some data if needed.

I don't think that peltier modules would be very useful to this operation.  I'll certainly check out any proven usefulness if it's ever demonstrated, but my personal thoughts are that they are probably only good for cooling USB sticks.

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May 04, 2017, 02:29:48 AM
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I love to see solar mining projects, this one looks more legit than most! When you say 9.5kW that means it can supply up to 9500w of power? I'm not sure but I believe with solar it's different, if it were 9.5kW you wouldn't get 9.5kW/hr. If so though, that's legit if it's all coming from solar.
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May 04, 2017, 12:16:34 PM
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I love to see solar mining projects, this one looks more legit than most! When you say 9.5kW that means it can supply up to 9500w of power? I'm not sure but I believe with solar it's different, if it were 9.5kW you wouldn't get 9.5kW/hr. If so though, that's legit if it's all coming from solar.

9.5kw means in a perfect scenario it will generate 9500w per hour.
But at best it reaches 92-98% for 1-2 hours a day. Pretty much a bell curve from sunrise to sunset on sunny days.

US power runs on AC voltage, panels usually produce DC. You always lose ~15% in conversion. If you are off the grid and have a battery. You lose anything you generate in excess of the battery capacity (which degrades like your cell phone). Also, if you store on battery, you lose a further 15% storing and retrieving. For that reason I chose grid tied and get 1:1 production/usage of my excess power. I have net metering, so I use the local provider's grid as a free battery that defies the law of physics (no 15% loss), and costs nothing to purchase/maintain

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May 04, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
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I love to see solar mining projects, this one looks more legit than most! When you say 9.5kW that means it can supply up to 9500w of power? I'm not sure but I believe with solar it's different, if it were 9.5kW you wouldn't get 9.5kW/hr. If so though, that's legit if it's all coming from solar.

9.5kw means in a perfect scenario it will generate 9500w per hour.
But at best it reaches 92-98% for 1-2 hours a day. Pretty much a bell curve from sunrise to sunset on sunny days.

US power runs on AC voltage, panels usually produce DC. You always lose ~15% in conversion. If you are off the grid and have a battery. You lose anything you generate in excess of the battery capacity (which degrades like your cell phone). Also, if you store on battery, you lose a further 15% storing and retrieving. For that reason I chose grid tied and get 1:1 production/usage of my excess power. I have net metering, so I use the local provider's grid as a free battery that defies the law of physics (no 15% loss), and costs nothing to maintain

Interesting, thank you! I love solar but 1-2 hours of uptime per day doesn't seem great. I guess it's free electricity though so you can't complain too much.
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