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Question: July 28 Closing Price:
<$3,000 - 2 (22.2%)
<$8,000 - 0 (0%)
$8,001-$8,500 - 0 (0%)
$8,501-$9,000 - 0 (0%)
$9,001-$9,500 - 1 (11.1%)
$9,501-$10,000 - 1 (11.1%)
$10,001-$10,500 - 0 (0%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 2 (22.2%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 1 (11.1%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 0 (0%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 0 (0%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 1 (11.1%)
$13,001-$13,500 - 0 (0%)
$13,501-$14,000 - 0 (0%)
>$14,000 - 1 (11.1%)
>$18,000 - 0 (0%)
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April 13, 2015, 12:16:46 AM

I understand what a tool is too.

Then you are not one of those who claim that bitcoin will be the solution to poverty, corruption, fraud, bank abuse, oppression, censorship, etc., etc..

Right?


Right.  And, not for the first time I'm reminding you that straw man arguments such as "those who claim that bitcoin will be the solution to poverty, corruption, fraud, bank abuse, oppression, censorship, etc., etc.. " are bullshit and I'm calling you on it.  Again.  I know hundreds of people within this community both on the technical and financial side and I can't think of a single one of them that sees it in the way as you're trying to paint it here.  Not one. 

It's a tool.  Like I said in my previous post, you're deliberately, disingenuously conflating tool and solution.  I know you're smarter than that hence my facetious tone.

Some tools, like crossbows for example, are known to have levelled the playing field somewhat between the previously empowered and the disenfranchised.  No longer did you need to be a trained full time professional belonging to a paid standing army to be useful on the battlefield.

Some tools, like surveillance databases, armoured cars and the like are known to have been of more use to those with privilege and power than those without.  Did we throw out computers because IBM helped the nazis track dissidents and minorities with their punched card technology?

Some tools, like hammers, are just tools and, as you've astutely pointed out, can be used to almost equal effect by anyone wielding them.  They are used to build both labour camps and hospitals.

The Internet is a tool that can be used by anyone for almost any purpose but, generally speaking, a society with ubiquitous access to a free and open Internet is a greater threat to the .1% than to the rest of us.

There's a possibility that Bitcoin is like a hammer.  Just a tool that anyone can use for better or for worse.  That's certainly how it looks right now.  But I suspect Bitcoin is more like the Internet.  Anyone can indeed use it but, generally, the level playing field its widespread adoption presents would be something very threatening indeed. 

As you've also said, they'll try to ban it, control it etc.  We're watching that.  It's fun.

You're certainly old enough to remember the painful death throes of the old guard music industry and how it flapped about and sued the hell out of anyone that moved in an effort to forestall the inevitable change that the Internet was bringing to their business models.

Well that ended in a complete overhaul of the industry in spite of their best, and most cunning efforts. 

But we know, for whatever reason, that you've closed your mind to anything positive about Bitcoin and are determined to repeat ad nauseam negative arguments regardless of whether anyone's shot them down or not so if it were just the two of us here, I'd certainly save my breath.

The key here really is that Bitcoin is a disruptive technology and if anything needed disrupting, it's the current global financial industry and the frankly horrific level of global inequality that it supports. 

If you'll forgive me, and I'm sure you will, I'm going to put you back on ignore now.  It's not like you ever say anything you haven't said before in one way or another.  Cool


Amazing that someone who keeps accusing Jorge of 'strawman' arguments, then proceeds on a massive rant made of hay.  Ad people who claim to be 'scientists' saying this is a great comment, can you not see the glaring contradictions, fallacies and errors.

It's such a shame that there are so many folks in the world who have been taken in by this 'disruptive' crap -- the reality is not 'democratization' but more concentrated power in the hands of not the rich but the (unelected) elite super-rich.

But Jorge pointed this out and then it all went silent -- because everyone who disagrees with the great BTC world view is a troll.

Keep banging away boys...the big money is surely round the corner
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April 13, 2015, 12:51:25 AM

Why no weekend pump? Will we not have a mid week dump either?

Bears seem to stop selling around this price almost every time.

This week will be interesting.... or painfully flat.
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April 13, 2015, 01:45:46 AM

Why no weekend pump? Will we not have a mid week dump either?

Bears seem to stop selling around this price almost every time.

This week will be interesting.... or painfully flat.

There is sometimes a late Sunday dump.
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nanobrain and trofli ... get a room already, honeymoon suite in socialist hotel utopia ... cuba?
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April 13, 2015, 04:34:29 AM

(fantastic cameo on silicon valley by the W twins - "do you know how much bitcoin they're worth ?!")

silicon valley favorite show

*RIP Christopher Evan Welch
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April 13, 2015, 06:38:28 AM

Closing shop folks



Move along, there's nothing to see here anymore.
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nanobrain and trofli ... get a room already, honeymoon suite in socialist hotel utopia ... cuba?

Will we be having our very first Troll-marriage here on bitcointalk.org? Exciting... Cheesy
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April 13, 2015, 07:31:27 AM

Closing shop folks



Move along, there's nothing to see here anymore.

Where is that? Poland?
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Closing shop folks



Move along, there's nothing to see here anymore.

Where is that? Poland?

yep. warsaw.
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April 13, 2015, 07:47:27 AM

Wow MAIDsafe is bullish today!  Shocked
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April 13, 2015, 07:54:36 AM

Wow MAIDsafe is bullish today!  Shocked
https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_maid
https://masterxchange.com/market.php?currency=maid

+48% is NOT bad!!
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