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November 02, 2015, 07:35:41 PM

i cant remember the price going up that much i guess we should prepare for a fall

Oh wow, you can't remember the price going up this much since.....your August 2015 join date?

Try harder random under water bear's alt.
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November 02, 2015, 07:37:50 PM

If Core can't find a way to scale the network with a reasonable amount of safety and security in TWO YEARS, then they are incompetent and need to make way for better developers. 

How much time is a reasonable amount of time for you?  I really want to know. Give me an actual number.

That is a pretty bold statement about solving a non-trivial computer science problem.  I'm sure your patches will be accepted if you have a solution.

I think the problem is that you assume that increasing the blocksize fixes the problem.

I imagine a future where all manner of services that are currently ad-supported or subscription-based might instead be payed for with bitcoin microtransactions, seamlessly and transparently.  There could be millions, or maybe even billions of transactions per day from all these page views/minutes of video/etc. - vastly more than even Visa handles at peak capacity.  And add to that all the microtransactions that might be generated by devices on the Internet of Things, that none of us know the extent or nature of yet.

I don't see how increasing blocksize will handle this.  Even data-center sized nodes may not be able to handle all those microtransactions.

I don't claim to know what the answer is, but I am pretty sure that block-size alone won't do it - and lurching down that path in a non-judicious way could lead to permanent problems that will be painful to work around in the long term, after a real solution is found.

I'm certain blocksize alone WON'T fix all scaling problems, but it would buy us time. All it would take right now is a doubling of transactions to crash the network.  This problem was important, but now it's urgent as well. A doubling is well withing the realm of possibility in mere months and is approaching the probable. 

Creating a market for transaction fees needs to happen AFTER we reach mainstream adoption or we will never reach it. Yahoo mail, Facebook, Google all knew not to monetize too early.  That's why they're still around. I hope we'll be around when billions of cryto microtransactions becomes an issue.
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November 02, 2015, 07:38:45 PM

And so BTC-e is in danger of getting overrun by the Kraken price per Bitcoin?
Only 6 pips difference, $ to € that is!
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November 02, 2015, 07:43:24 PM

Creating a market for transaction fees needs to happen AFTER we reach mainstream adoption or we will never reach it. Yahoo mail, Facebook, Google all knew not to monetize too early.  That's why they're still around. I hope we'll be around when billions of cryto microtransactions becomes an issue.

Trying to develop a sane market for transaction fees with the block reward still as high as it is is a fool's errand in any case.
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November 02, 2015, 07:54:21 PM

wow bitstamp run out of asks? if that happens to finex then there could be indeed a big green dildo this time  Grin
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November 02, 2015, 07:54:40 PM

Creating a market for transaction fees needs to happen AFTER we reach mainstream adoption or we will never reach it. Yahoo mail, Facebook, Google all knew not to monetize too early.  That's why they're still around. I hope we'll be around when billions of cryto microtransactions becomes an issue.

Trying to develop a sane market for transaction fees with the block reward still as high as it is is a fool's errand in any case.

Not so foolish if you're coming to market with tools that will be competitively advantaged in a high fee environment with artificially capped main chain capacity.








On a lighter note....
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November 02, 2015, 07:54:49 PM

Is it really happening?
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November 02, 2015, 07:55:23 PM

Yeah... no coins left for sale at stamp is sort of a bad thing.
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November 02, 2015, 07:55:45 PM

Hope you all held and are now enjoying the gains.

Bears : ha!
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November 02, 2015, 07:55:53 PM

Hodlers be like..



lmao

True.
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November 02, 2015, 07:58:18 PM

And so BTC-e is in danger of getting overrun by the Kraken price per Bitcoin?
Only 6 pips difference, $ to € that is!

And so it is now higher.
Bears do not know when to surrender, or what?
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November 02, 2015, 07:58:25 PM

Hodlers be like..



It is a good day to be a holder!   Grin
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November 02, 2015, 07:58:31 PM

Is it HAPPENING?
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November 02, 2015, 07:58:41 PM

Singularity incoming!

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November 02, 2015, 07:59:56 PM

Is it HAPPENING?
Its about time  Grin

Maybe just maybe see a return on mining gear! ...lol
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November 02, 2015, 08:00:01 PM

wow bitstamp run out of asks? if that happens to finex then there could be indeed a big green dildo this time  Grin
Good thing I left Bearstamp this week-end.But seriously WTF happens to them now? Has this ever happened previously to other exchanges?
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November 02, 2015, 08:00:04 PM

Yeah... no coins left for sale at stamp is sort of a bad thing.

Doesn't that just mean no one wants to sell at this price? How is that bad?
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November 02, 2015, 08:00:11 PM

are u fucking having a serious with me?
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November 02, 2015, 08:00:40 PM

It just occured to me that there is a completely real possibility that all exchanges simply run out of coins that people are willing to sell.

What happens when there are 50 exchanges but a buyer simply cannot find any coins for sale?Huh Will the world end? Or does my world just become super F'ing awesome......
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