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March 07, 2019, 02:46:00 AM

LastoftheV8TrilemmaShills is now filing FALSE REPORTS against me.  Anyone who has been in this thread knows for a fact that Bob was telling everyone to "hodl" at the top near $20k while he was dumping instead.  I don't feel like digging up the posts now (but I can if Bob didn't go back and edit them).  There is absolutely nothing in that post that isn't true:






I’m not gonna search for things..... but i just know V8 isn’t really someone thats a liar..... while Bob isn’t advising to HODL and sell himself....
We don’t know bobs pockets, so i guess if one has a lot of coin (let us say) and sell 10% or something just cause he thinks the price is ok to go for Some fiat.... while hodling all the rest of his own coins.... yeah Then its OK to say HODL cause thats what he is mainly doing.....

Not ?  (Watch out roach you’re going against to highly liked WO’s here) Roll Eyes
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March 07, 2019, 02:49:53 AM

Hahahahaha

Thanks for asking, even though I can recognize that you are in a bit of a combative mood on this topic.   Tongue Tongue  I anticipate that some of your combativeness has to do with what I perceive to be your unrealistic expectations about both how much you need in order to reasonably live passively in terms of your "fuck you" definition.

You may be able to see that I feel some of my own oats, too, with some of my own self-righteousness on this topic, as well.

I am basing my 320.307495 BTC "fuck you" money on a kind of minimum amount that will put "any" person into a far above average expectation with 1) sufficient passive income possibilities to sustain our current storm and 2) decent future prospects, so long as such "any person" retains some flexibility to live within the means and the income generation of the 320.307495 BTC.

Of course, my level of "fuck you" does not suggest that you are going to be able to say "fuck you" to everyone at this moment, and/or to act with impunity because there are still going to be a lot of people who are way fucking more rich than you, at least for the moment, but instead the 320.307495 BTC will allow for you to live currently with a kind of modest lifestyle with a large amount of future income possibilities, based on your already have had established a 320.307495 BTC starting base in which you have enough for financial independence. 

Once you start with the 320.307495 BTC base, I presume that every quarter, you are going to cash out 1% of your BTC in order to pay for all living expenses, with a bit of a presumption that BTC is going to appreciate in value, on average, more than 4% per year in the coming years.

Of course, my suggested 320.307495 BTC amount is NOT fool proof, but I have a certain presumption that at this time, BTC is quite likely to appreciate in value considerably in the coming few years and also that even if $3,122 is not the exact bottom, any time that BTC spends below $3,122 is not going to significantly impact future passive living off of the 320.307495 BTC.

By the way, if you are curious about how I arrived at 320.307495 BTC, then let me tell you that $1million divided by our current local low BTC price of $3,122 = 320.307495 BTC. 

Accordingly, a largely baseline of $1million starts any person out with an annual passive income of $40k per year, which is $3,333 per month.  I presume that with BTC's likely increase in value in the coming years, your passive income is quite likely to be going up in coming years, even if the first few years of your "fuck you" status might be a bit more of a struggle with a mere piddly passive income of only $3,333 per month.  Many people would kill to have such a $3,333 level of passive income as their starting baseline income and to be removed from the ratt race, aka having to work. In the beginning, the only work that you would have to do with such $3,333 passive income is to manage your money and to live within your means.. otherwise you are free to do whatever the fuck you want.. aka "fuck you" status.   Tongue Tongue
Fair enough. My idea of "fuck you" money is in a region where one could bypass any sort of fund raising and go straight to funding some outlandish project of their choice. And since research on specific topics can gobble up tens to hundreds of millions I suggested "over 9000 BTC" (at current prices) to have that kind of leeway.

$3333/month only really works for a single household in most first world locations however, although one could always move into a cheap area and get a ridiculously oversized mansion with that money and dine on Kobe beef once a week.

There's also variability in passive income, so one would have to live well under $3333/month to make it work without having to eat into stocks/BTC and if you went for passive income you'd have to actually liquidate BTC to buy dividend yielding stocks, so I'd at least double your amount of BTC to have a dividend and a BTC stash.
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March 07, 2019, 02:50:28 AM

LastoftheV8TrilemmaShills is now filing FALSE REPORTS against me.  Anyone who has been in this thread knows for a fact that Bob was telling everyone to "hodl" at the top near $20k while he was dumping instead.  I don't feel like digging up the posts now (but I can if Bob didn't go back and edit them).  There is absolutely nothing in that post that isn't true:






I’m not gonna search for things..... but i just know V8 isn’t really someone thats a liar..... while Bob isn’t advising to HODL and sell himself....

Bullshit.  Why would I make something like that up?  I only typed the objective reality of what actually happened.  Bob was telling everyone to "HODL" around the top of $20k while he was selling instead.  If I was going to fabricate something out of thin air, do you really think I would choose that specific thing to make up?  I didn't even claim Bob is part of some type of conspiracy to make other people bagholders, just that he was doing the exact opposite of what he was preaching, telling people to "HODL" while he was selling.  I don't think you were even a poster in the thread then.
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March 07, 2019, 02:54:03 AM

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s10-bitcoin-ethereum/
Samsung Galaxy S10 Arrives Sans Bitcoin, Only Ethereum is Supported

So, my next phone will be Huawei!

I'd rather get an LG v40 for the high-fidelity music. But then again, I use my phone almost exclusively as a Walkman.

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March 07, 2019, 02:55:02 AM

LastoftheV8TrilemmaShills is now filing FALSE REPORTS against me.  Anyone who has been in this thread knows for a fact that Bob was telling everyone to "hodl" at the top near $20k while he was dumping instead.  I don't feel like digging up the posts now (but I can if Bob didn't go back and edit them).  There is absolutely nothing in that post that isn't true:






I’m not gonna search for things..... but i just know V8 isn’t really someone thats a liar..... while Bob isn’t advising to HODL and sell himself....

Bullshit.  Why would I make something like that up?  I only typed the objective reality of what actually happened.  Bob was telling everyone to "HODL" around the top of $20k while he was selling instead.  If I was going to fabricate something out of thin air, do you really think I would choose that specific thing to make up?  I didn't even claim Bob is part of some type of conspiracy to make other people bagholders, just that he was doing the exact opposite of what he was preaching, telling people to "HODL" while he was selling.  I don't think you were even a poster in the thread then.
Bob has been way too upset during the bear market to have sold any amount significant enough to make your point relevant.
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March 07, 2019, 02:55:49 AM

^^^
Yeah, could be, but if he sells a fraction of his HODL amount.... Then he is still hodling
Like if i won with poker and a fraction of that incoming BTC i keep for fun stuff like buying something for my self, like awarding in a game....
I do say hodl.... but that part i’m giving away, or sell or buy stuff with.... BUT i can say HODL, cause i HODL most of it

So Bob is not doing anything wrong, cause we all know he a badASS Hodler Cheesy
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March 07, 2019, 02:56:18 AM

I get horrified and scared any time I see you guys talking about $100K or even $30K as if it was a SURE thing. What kind of capitulation is this?


After seeing the light I stopped capitulating. I will never capitulate again, unless of course, I'm wrong.

Anyone that has actually capitulated wouldn't even be here anymore. Smiley

Lots of weak men have been & gone - Only the strongest remain.

I’ll be directing the film, who wants to star in it?

I'll take a "Stan the Man Lee" cameo spot. Smiley

I'll take the role of the broken alcoholic anti-hero that has already "capitulated"... but then, when the moment of truth comes, he raises from his ashes and becomes the real hero that saves Bitcoin and ride it to the moon and everyone is happy and wealthy thereafter. Sorta.

Either that or just the broken alcoholic anti-hero that has already "capitulated".
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Its a lost fight roach
To go after a WO-member Smiley
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March 07, 2019, 03:02:55 AM

LastoftheV8TrilemmaShills is now filing FALSE REPORTS against me.  Anyone who has been in this thread knows for a fact that Bob was telling everyone to "hodl" at the top near $20k while he was dumping instead.  I don't feel like digging up the posts now (but I can if Bob didn't go back and edit them).  There is absolutely nothing in that post that isn't true:






I’m not gonna search for things..... but i just know V8 isn’t really someone thats a liar..... while Bob isn’t advising to HODL and sell himself....

Bullshit.  Why would I make something like that up?  I only typed the objective reality of what actually happened.  Bob was telling everyone to "HODL" around the top of $20k while he was selling instead.  If I was going to fabricate something out of thin air, do you really think I would choose that specific thing to make up?  I didn't even claim Bob is part of some type of conspiracy to make other people bagholders, just that he was doing the exact opposite of what he was preaching, telling people to "HODL" while he was selling.  I don't think you were even a poster in the thread then.
Bob has been way too upset during the bear market to have sold any amount significant enough to make your point relevant.

Do all of you people have the memory of a flea?  He typed that he either became a millionaire or made millions from what he did sell.  So, yes, he still had some coins that did go down in value, but he was selling A LOT while telling other people to "HODL".  So my statement is 100% true regardless.  Filing a 'scam report' against a completely true statement is a joke.
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March 07, 2019, 03:03:42 AM

^^^
Yeah, could be, but if he sells a fraction of his HODL amount.... Then he is still hodling
Like if i won with poker and a fraction of that incoming BTC i keep for fun stuff like buying something for my self, like awarding in a game....
I do say hodl.... but that part i’m giving away, or sell or buy stuff with.... BUT i can say HODL, cause i HODL most of it

So Bob is not doing anything wrong, cause we all know he a badASS Hodler Cheesy

Don't lose your time. What he is saying not only is completely false, but I already corrected him a few months ago. And now he repeats it again. The guy has no memory... never try to discuss anything with someone with poor memory or you will end very frustrated.

P.S.: Lol, I didn't read the snapshot. It is in fact what I was talking about, not something new
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March 07, 2019, 03:06:24 AM

Don't lose your time. What he is saying not only is completely false, but I corrected him a few months ago. And now he repeats it again. The guy has no memory... never try to discuss anything with someone with poor memory or you will end very frustrated.

You are a complete fucking liar.  Bob posted NUMEROUS times about how he was making "A MILLION" or "MILLIONS" in fiat dollars from bitcoin.  Do you think he acquired those fiat dollars WITHOUT selling the coins?  The point at which he made that fiat was very near the top and it's a fact he was telling everyone else to "HODL" while he was selling them.  It was all bullish propaganda and "hodl" spam while he was dumping.  I'm sure Bob is not the only one guilty of that in this thread, but he was the main one I remember.
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March 07, 2019, 03:08:47 AM

^ And you are a completely dumb retard. He did in fact sell "millions"... So what? He even *ANNOUNCED IT BEFOREHAND!*

Go read the posts history if you can't recall FFS!
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I never really understood the term "Fuck You Money", I never needed anything behind me to say Fuck you to anybody. AAMOF I have told a few bosses to fuck off and never seen a reprisal for it. I make myself very clear wherever I have worked. I guess I'm rather lucky that I am not easily replaced. Smiley
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March 07, 2019, 03:11:07 AM

^^^
Yeah, could be, but if he sells a fraction of his HODL amount.... Then he is still hodling
Like if i won with poker and a fraction of that incoming BTC i keep for fun stuff like buying something for my self, like awarding in a game....
I do say hodl.... but that part i’m giving away, or sell or buy stuff with.... BUT i can say HODL, cause i HODL most of it

So Bob is not doing anything wrong, cause we all know he a badASS Hodler Cheesy

Don't lose your time. What he is saying not only is completely false, but I already corrected him a few months ago. And now he repeats it again. The guy has no memory... never try to discuss anything with someone with poor memory or you will end very frustrated.

P.S.: Lol, I didn't read the snapshot. It is in fact what I was talking about, not something new

Yeah you’re right i quoted him yet a time to much.....
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March 07, 2019, 03:12:19 AM

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s10-bitcoin-ethereum/
Samsung Galaxy S10 Arrives Sans Bitcoin, Only Ethereum is Supported

So, my next phone will be Huawei!

I'd rather get an LG v40 for the high-fidelity music. But then again, I use my phone almost exclusively as a Walkman.

I do not carry a personal tracking device.
A phone doesn't know who you are unless you let it know.

You keep telling yourself that. and your CPU hasn't been compromised for decades either.
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March 07, 2019, 03:13:39 AM

I get horrified and scared any time I see you guys talking about $100K or even $30K as if it was a SURE thing. What kind of capitulation is this?


After seeing the light I stopped capitulating. I will never capitulate again, unless of course, I'm wrong.

Anyone that has actually capitulated wouldn't even be here anymore. Smiley

Lots of weak men have been & gone - Only the strongest remain.

I’ll be directing the film, who wants to star in it?

I'll take a "Stan the Man Lee" cameo spot. Smiley

I'll take the role of the broken alcoholic anti-hero that has already "capitulated"... but then, when the moment of truth comes, he raises from his ashes and becomes the real hero that saves Bitcoin and ride it to the moon and everyone is happy and wealthy thereafter. Sorta.

Either that or just the broken alcoholic anti-hero that has already "capitulated".

The new spiderman had a good one of those with the beer gut. Smiley
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March 07, 2019, 03:14:33 AM

Its a lost fight roach
To go after a WO-member Smiley

Unless it's JJg on a Thursday. Cheesy
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To go after a WO-member Smiley

Unless it's JJg on a Thursday. Cheesy

Can't win it either. JJG is antifragile.
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March 07, 2019, 03:20:08 AM

LastoftheV8TrilemmaShills is now filing FALSE REPORTS against me.  Anyone who has been in this thread knows for a fact that Bob was telling everyone to "hodl" at the top near $20k while he was dumping instead.  I don't feel like digging up the posts now (but I can if Bob didn't go back and edit them).  There is absolutely nothing in that post that isn't true:





I agree with you that your post in that reference, does not seem to rise to the level of red trust in terms of liar or disinformation expert...

If I were to negative trust you, then I would likely tag you for shilling, pumping PMs, some of your bullshit racial comments or something like that.... and maybe your pumping of certain off topic BTC themes and then not backing up your shit stirring nonsense...  ... so perhaps, the problem with the negative trust could be with the reference rather than the fact that V8 negative trusted you. 

 I do believe that best practice for red trust is to provide some kind of decent substantiating reference... it is not absolutely necessary, but it is preferred to put a reference. 

So, in my personal opinion, there are still likely decent references out there for the point(s) that V8 was attempting to make in his red trust rationale, so perhaps V8 just used a bad reference?  I am not sure. 

Even though I would use a different referenced example, V8 has discretion about what reference he believes substantiates his negative trust decision... and from my seeing your posts, over the years, the overall decision to red trust you does not seem unreasonable - even if V8 seemed to have picked a less than stellar example of his point(s).
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^ See what I mean?

Antifragile.

And it is already Thursday here...
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