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[bitserve]

No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah

You saying that because you don't have enough bitcoins or because you don't want to draw attention to yourself?


By the way, we all gonna be fucked if prices reach $111k, so better have enough coins.

I mean, we gonna be so fucked in the head from RICHes that we gonna have some difficulties figuring out spending, diversification, security.. and some fucking ass new standards that are out of our regular comfort zone... so gotta kind of tentatively start planning, so we not be so shocked...

Have any of you guys actually lived of grid?
It's not as fun as it sounds. When I was a kid we would often spend time in my grandparents summerhouse, with no electricity. You had to get up in the middle of the night to keep the fire going, you had to pump the water by hand, you had to heat the water on the fire, no shower, just a quick hand wash.

They later installed electricity and it was bliss, electric water pump and heating, and all that (but still no shower, they were the old generation who took a bath twice a week or so, the rest was hand wash).

I would love to live of grid, but you simply cant make enough electricity for electric heating, you would have to have a wood burner or oil burner for that. And that's not my cup of tea, except as a backup. Hopefully though, they will soon come up with some kind of high capacity battery that makes wind/solar possible as the only energy source.

Things have changed a lot. Now you can have solar panels efficient and cheap enough to power the whole house. Of course it depends on where you plan to live off the grid... better chose a place with good sun and warm weather so as your electrical needs are not that much and get easily covered (batteries are still somewhat expensive). Water system is also doable provided you have some near source (again, chose the location wisely).

That said... I find the idea of living off-the-grid a king of joke that is only possible because you are somewhat "parasiting" on the technical evolution and infrastructure of "the grid". And it is only a very finite number of people that can do it or otherwise the grid would crumble and we would all be miserable.

OTOH, The idea of just cutting from the electrical grid sounds very appealing to me. Even if living in the middle of a major city. Energy independency is a thing. We are almost to the point where it could be even cheaper than getting it from a third party.

[Rosewater Foundation]

BOOM

It’s starting to sound like a war zone

[explorer]

No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah

You saying that because you don't have enough bitcoins or because you don't want to draw attention to yourself?


By the way, we all gonna be fucked if prices reach $111k, so better have enough coins.

I mean, we gonna be so fucked in the head from RICHes that we gonna have some difficulties figuring out spending, diversification, security.. and some fucking ass new standards that are out of our regular comfort zone... so gotta kind of tentatively start planning, so we not be so shocked...

Have any of you guys actually lived of grid?
It's not as fun as it sounds. When I was a kid we would often spend time in my grandparents summerhouse, with no electricity. You had to get up in the middle of the night to keep the fire going, you had to pump the water by hand, you had to heat the water on the fire, no shower, just a quick hand wash.

They later installed electricity and it was bliss, electric water pump and heating, and all that (but still no shower, they were the old generation who took a bath twice a week or so, the rest was hand wash).

I would love to live of grid, but you simply cant make enough electricity for electric heating, you would have to have a wood burner or oil burner for that. And that's not my cup of tea, except as a backup. Hopefully though, they will soon come up with some kind of high capacity battery that makes wind/solar possible as the only energy source.

Things have changed a lot. Now you can have solar panels efficient and cheap enough to power the whole house. Of course it depends on where you plan to live off the grid... better chose a place with good sun and warm weather so as your electrical needs are not that much and get easily covered (batteries are still somewhat expensive). Water system is also doable provided you have some near source (again, chose the location wisely).

That said... I find the idea of living off-the-grid a king of joke that is only possible because you are somewhat "parasiting" on the technical evolution and infrastructure of "the grid". And it is only a very finite number of people that can do it or otherwise the grid would crumble and we would all be miserable.

OTOH, The idea of just cutting from the electrical grid sounds very appealing to me. Even if living in the middle of a major city. Energy independency is a thing. We are almost to the point where it could be even cheaper than getting it from a third party.

With a proper rain catchment system a single house should be able to support its occupants on 8-10"  per year rainfall. 20-25cm.  That's not a lot, so I suppose it's rationed, but doable.  There aren't very many places that dry anyway, so the point is generally moot.  Where I live I think we get that in a day, from time to time All you need is a place you can dig in the dirt, and not be flooded.  Don't forget security, view, and weather particular to your location.

[Arriemoller]

Ladies and gentlemen. It is my great pleasure to announce a historic event in Bitcoin's unstoppable march to infinity. Today we have reached a new All-Time-High, one of special significance, that brings Bitcoin to 5-digit € values in Euro-Land!

BTC ATH @ Kraken!
☺10,000 €☺

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To the Moon and BTCeyond!
Enjoy!

Very nice, thanks!

[JimboToronto]

$12345 Bitstamp.

We did it.

[Rosewater Foundation]

I prefer to live in the thick of it, downtown. I know what you're thinking. Look what it did to Theymos. It changes a man. But I come from downtown. It's armed me with grit and determination. And grace, too.

[Rosewater Foundation]

...brokers of exquisite dreams and memories tested on the sensitized cells of junk sickness and bartered for raw materials of the will, doctors skilled in the treatment of diseases dormant in the black dust of ruined cities, gathering virulence in the white blood of eyeless worms feeling slowly to the surface and the human host, maladies of the ocean floor and the stratosphere, maladies of the laboratory and atomic war... A place where the unknown past and the emergent future meet in a vibrating soundless hum... Larval entities waiting for a Live One...

Downtown

[Phil_S]

If living off-the-grid means no internet and no human contact, then NO WAY.

[aesma]

I'm looking at building a house and a wood stove is in the cards. I like the idea. If it ends up being too much work I can always put a wood pellets stove in its place, computer controlled and all. The house would be insulated enough to not need a big stove, but not passive, I don't like the idea of passive houses.

Hummm let me enjoy the moment ... 5-digits €-wake-up

that and a coffee will do.

Woke up early (in bed early last night), it was still 9990€. Then didn't check for a couple hours, until way past 10K€.

[aesma]

I prefer to live in the thick of it, downtown. I know what you're thinking. Look what it did to Theymos. It changes a man. But I come from downtown. It's armed me with grit and determination. And grace, too.

When I'm a BTC millionaire and can afford a nice flat downtown a big city I'll certainly buy one, then alternate between it and a large estate in the middle of nowhere, with my own landing strip to go with my airplane.

But living in a miniscule flat, hearing all the noise made by the street and other inhabitants, for a ridiculous amount of money and taxes compared to my limited wealth, no way.

[jojo69]

If living off-the-grid means no internet and no human contact, then NO WAY.

somehow I think not having people around is going to be the least of my worries, more likely to have to take measures to keep them at arms length

[Phil_S]

$12345 Bitstamp.

We did it.

[mike4001]

No 12k Threads

OK ... I understand you were waiting for 12,5k

Here it is: USD 12.530,02 on bitcoinaverage.

[explorer]

If living off-the-grid means no internet and no human contact, then NO WAY.

somehow I think not having people around is going to be the least of my worries, more likely to have to take measures to keep them at arms length

High ground.  Ranged in all directions.  Barbed wire.  Check.  Get some of those nasty little drones, too!

[JimboToronto]

I prefer to live in the thick of it, downtown. I know what you're thinking. Look what it did to Theymos. It changes a man. But I come from downtown. It's armed me with grit and determination. And grace, too.

I need both. Most of my life I've been blessed with both. When I was playing music 6 nights a week, we'd tour 3-4 weeks, then play downtown for a few weeks.

Before that I had free use of a lovely piece of bush with a  large creek running through it. For the last 22 years I've had a 23' trailer on a high bank overlooking a waterfall, so deep in a 50 acre lot I'd have to cut a road in just to get it out. Been off the grid for years.

In the city, I live downtown. No lawns. Walk to major league sports, arts and entertainment. Literally dozens of bars, many with live entertainment, cool shops, eateries, and what was once the premier strip of computer shops in North America, all within a few short blocks.

I couldn't have it any other way. I get stuck in the city too long, I get itchy feet. I get stuck in the bush too long, I get cabin fever.

I like to say I've got dual citizenship, country slicker and city bumpkin. I know my way around the booze cans and remember when Cold Tea was whiskey, not beer, yet I can re-chain and sharpen my own Stihl and tune up my own Skidoo and John Deere.

I wouldn't have it any other way.
_____  

OMG while I was typing this we went up another c-note. Go Bitcoin go.

[Phil_S]

If living off-the-grid means no internet and no human contact, then NO WAY.

somehow I think not having people around is going to be the least of my worries, more likely to have to take measures to keep them at arms length

For a first month, not having to deal with people would be great... but then...

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[bitserve]

What the fuck is up with IOTA? From 0.30 less than a month ago to $5.30 now? How does it doesn't fucking implode already?

[Arriemoller]

Have any of you guys actually lived of grid?
It's not as fun as it sounds. When I was a kid we would often spend time in my grandparents summerhouse, with no electricity. You had to get up in the middle of the night to keep the fire going, you had to pump the water by hand, you had to heat the water on the fire, no shower, just a quick hand wash.

They later installed electricity and it was bliss, electric water pump and heating, and all that (but still no shower, they were the old generation who took a bath twice a week or so, the rest was hand wash).

I would love to live of grid, but you simply cant make enough electricity for electric heating, you would have to have a wood burner or oil burner for that. And that's not my cup of tea, except as a backup. Hopefully though, they will soon come up with some kind of high capacity battery that makes wind/solar possible as the only energy source.

Yes I have and the technology has come a long way.

A modern catalytic stove will easily keep the fire all night, nearly 24 hours as a matter of fact.  Personally I much prefer wood heat.  I currently live in town and I miss having fire in my life.

Flat plate collectors on the roof coupled with a heat exchanger on the stove for hot water, or on demand propane if you are lazy.

DC pump and some solar to run it.  It really isn't that hard.

I have like 5-6 hours of daylight right now, and overcast with rain, those collectors would collect absolutely nothing, and a wood stove, even a modern one, still need you to store huge amounts of firewood, that you would first have to chop. That's not living in comfort, that's more work than I do now on my regular job.

I actually live in a small cottage in the countryside with a wood stove as my backup for power outages and just enjoying a nice wood fire. (The heat from a nice wood fire beats everything else).

Solar just doesn't work in the north in the winter yet.
Having said that, when I reach my first cash out point, I will install solar panels and a small wind turbine to make myself self sufficient at least in the summer. I do have collectors to my water heater, but as I mentioned, they don't work in the winter.

[rolling]

How do you short IOTA? This shit is getting stupid. At this rate it will overtake bitcoin in about a week.

[bitserve]

How do you short IOTA? This shit is getting stupid. At his rate it will overtake bitcoin in about a week.

I think it is only traded in Bitfinexed, but I would refrain to short anything crypto. I was seriously thinking about shorting IOTA when it first passed $1 just a few days ago... Fortunately I didn't.

So much for a coin that doesn't even work... sigh.

I will repeat it again: Never, ever short anything crypto. (I am repeating it to never forget it myself).