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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
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7/21 - 1 (1%)
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8/11 - 7 (6.9%)
8/18 - 5 (4.9%)
8/25 - 7 (6.9%)
After August - 55 (53.9%)
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April 07, 2020, 12:18:31 AM

Three consecutive $600+ Mondays... pretty impressive, bitcoin!
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April 07, 2020, 12:19:11 AM
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Nobody feels that there is something sickening in a sudden alts move?
Personally, I am taken aback and worrying that it is a setup.

Aside from bitcoin, I don't see the rest of of the crypto being useful in a harsh economic contraction.
Even stalwart bankers like Jamie Dimon made a point about the inevitability of a serious economic decline/recession.
Not chasing, holding and letting the game play out at least a few months longer.
Don't particularly like the fact that we are now correlating with equities more and more.
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April 07, 2020, 12:27:44 AM
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Nobody feels that there is something sickening in a sudden alts move.
Personally, I am taken aback and worrying that it is a setup.
Apart from bitcoin, I don't see any of the alts being useful in a harsh economic contraction.
Even stalwart bankers like Jamie Dimon made a point about the inevitability of a serious economic decline/recession.
Not chasing, holding and letting the game play out at least a few months longer.

I literally traded a number of my Altcoins today for BTC (even though there's a chance that I'll regret this decision) because of the fear of Altcoins' CEOs/core developers catching up the Corona. Imagine what will happen to Cardano/ZCash/etc if the news pops out that Charles/Zooko/etc got infected with the COVID19. Absolute disaster, IMO. Bitcoin, as always, is the safest bet.
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April 07, 2020, 12:30:23 AM

This is fine.
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April 07, 2020, 12:46:25 AM
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This is fine.


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April 07, 2020, 01:39:20 AM
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#staycalm Smiley
"Bitcoin charts : I don't want to jinx it but the year to date candle is green!"

https://twitter.com/ChartsBtc/status/1247281669347786752
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April 07, 2020, 02:20:23 AM

One and a third million. And people are starting to come out again around here.

Isolation can't continue forever. However bad this plague turns out to be, it will pass but the potential cultural impact could hang around for a long time.

Why do the chinese eat almost literally anything, including live animals or cooking their food with slop from sewers? Because their ancestors were starving and the most picky eaters died first.

And now the entire world is locked down. Just how bad could things get fifty years from now if we keep going like this for too long?
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April 07, 2020, 03:02:39 AM

Check out this graph from JP Morgan:


This is based partially on the second wave emerging in China. Are we going to keep doing these lockdowns every couple of months until a vaccine arrives?
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April 07, 2020, 03:08:53 AM

Complete lock down for Hot spot areas and for others bit relax lock down should do the trick.
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April 07, 2020, 03:23:56 AM

Check out this graph from JP Morgan:


This is based partially on the second wave emerging in China. Are we going to keep doing these lockdowns every couple of months until a vaccine arrives?
Depends entirely on how bad it turns out to be. The way things are looking right now literally the entire world is going to get infected with maybe a 1% net death rate when all is said and done. 78 million dead. Pretty bad but we can truck on.

It's a virus. Can it come back like the flu does? And if it does will it be just as bad or worse? The second wave might trigger immune overreactions. If that's say ten times as bad as the first round then we could be looking at a decimation of the global population. Recurring, until there are so few people left that it can't spread anymore. A virus that is three times as infective as the flu.

That's the worst case. Probably won't get to that. But anything more serious than "serious flu bro, but then it went away and never came back" is going to lead to very long lasting cultural, global, changes.
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April 07, 2020, 03:25:01 AM

Complete lock down for Hot spot areas and for others bit relax lock down should do the trick.
If it recurs and is worse the next time then everything has to be locked down until we are completely rid of it. It takes one person to infect the world. Literally.
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April 07, 2020, 03:34:31 AM

Complete lock down for Hot spot areas and for others bit relax lock down should do the trick.
If it recurs and is worse the next time then everything has to be locked down until we are completely rid of it. It takes one person to infect the world. Literally.

Yeah, that's why identifying hot spots are necessary and no country can afford complete lock down for long period of time, that's why low risk area need relaxation. worst case scenario in long term lock down is country going bankrupt and people coming out with frustration, followed by riots.
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April 07, 2020, 03:34:52 AM

It takes one person to infect the world. Literally.

... or one tiger, or cat ... or ferret in a lab ... or vial.
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April 07, 2020, 03:41:58 AM

Check out this graph from JP Morgan:


This is based partially on the second wave emerging in China. Are we going to keep doing these lockdowns every couple of months until a vaccine arrives?

... yes that is the most likely scenario at this point. Rolling lockdowns for the next 18-24 months.

Unless there is a therapeutic cure, vaccine in which case it ends earlier. Or there is new information about the effects of the disease which makes total lockdown until elimination necessary.
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April 07, 2020, 03:50:42 AM

#staycalm Smiley
"Bitcoin charts : I don't want to jinx it but the calendar year to date candle is green!"

https://twitter.com/ChartsBtc/status/1247281669347786752

Since we are becoming such interwebs' buddies (#nohomo) recently, JSRAW, me as "grammar policia" decided to FTFY.

You will gracias me later.  Wink

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By the way, that is a doji candle... whatever that means?.... and I am not superstitious about any of the "mentioning it" part.
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April 07, 2020, 04:00:36 AM

https://medium.com/@wpegden/a-call-to-honesty-in-pandemic-modeling-5c156686a64b
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April 07, 2020, 04:19:53 AM

So the real picture of demand and supply is not a halving of sell pressure. It's closer to 3000 BTC/day going to 2100 BTC/day, a 30% reduction (not 50%).

PS. This is not my analysis, it's from others in the industry who do not want to be named.

tiny heretical thread worth thinking about


I don’t understand. 1200 btc in fees mined per day? That can’t be true.
Or are exchanges making 1200 BTC in fees per day, which they immediately convert to fiat causing sell pressure?
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April 07, 2020, 04:33:45 AM

#staycalm Smiley
"Bitcoin charts : I don't want to jinx it but the year to date candle is green!"

https://twitter.com/ChartsBtc/status/1247281669347786752


That is incredible considering the circumstances. Wow.
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April 07, 2020, 04:40:20 AM



I am pretty sure that in recent weeks I had come across a term that describes a kind of poetic justice that occurs when someone becomes a victim of the very thing that s/he has been denying to exist. 

Boris Johnson has already become that, but I cannot remember the term.. or if we need to create a term. 

New research obsession of mine to find the right descriptor (or meme or whatever will accurately describe such phenomena and several people are coming to realize that those invisible lil thingies, aka viruses, can be a "real" force to be reckoned with).

Even when someone is a denier, we can still feel some passion for the human side of severe illness and perhaps succumbing to death when they become the victim, even though their prior arrogance can be challenging of such sympathies, too, as shown in this article, including a video from Johnson, too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-28/johnson-s-war-with-coronavirus-is-no-joke-anymore

The below article about Landon Spradlin deals with coronavirus deniers becoming victims, too.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/landon-spradlin-coronavirus-pandemic-death-punchline/
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