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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
7/14 - 0 (0%)
7/21 - 1 (1%)
7/28 - 11 (10.6%)
8/4 - 16 (15.4%)
8/11 - 7 (6.7%)
8/18 - 6 (5.8%)
8/25 - 7 (6.7%)
After August - 56 (53.8%)
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January 06, 2021, 12:29:28 AM

EDIT: Huh. I just noticed I'm now a Hero Member or something. Like, whatever, brothers.

Nothing like moving up the ranks after you start to make a wee bit of contribution around here..

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January 06, 2021, 12:37:13 AM

Ok, I'm heading to bed. I trust the WO to decide the winner of my 35k game. The winner can pm me an address to send the btc
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January 06, 2021, 12:41:43 AM

Ok, I'm heading to bed. I trust the WO to decide the winner of my 35k game. The winner can pm me an address to send the btc

Good night, i will follow, but i hope to wake up at the right time  Smiley
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January 06, 2021, 12:42:15 AM



Hmm, i just read up the John Titor story.
The military bagde you were showing, last time around Y2K, looks like a vagina squirting onto a camera lens (could just be me, though).
I highly doubt that the US forces wouldn't have noticed that in the design phase.



Looks like a reversed Nike'ys sign going out of a keyhole with ripples.

Do you think the He/She nonsense is Kamala or Pelosi? (after they give the boot to Biden ofc)  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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January 06, 2021, 12:52:07 AM

Easy.

Secure. Your. Fiat.

Don't mince about selling the BTC needed to buy that apartment. Too much risk / large transaction to gamble on.


N00bs should think about getting interest on some of their coin. And pay the loan for the apartment with the interest from the coin. And they don't need to sell their coin. Smiley  Roll Eyes





Great - so point me to a reputable place I can do that?


'Cause to now, I sure haven't been able to find one.

The are and they are not yet.

The "not" part, is that there are no currently existing exchanges that are not prone to inside jobs or "hacks". So the coins are not safe for a long term "storage" / "parking" on the exchanges in exchange for a stable return.

The "yes" part, is that there are a few exchanges where you can do that, but I would advice against it, because they can't give an assurance that your coins are insured in any way, shape or form. Bitcoin is not gold, you can't dig up another kilo out of the ground and replace the old one, each one is unique and when you lose it. It's not replaceable without making the price in other denominations move.
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Don't mind lightfoot, he is full of shit anyways, and for his next post he will promote P-100's.


Because if it hasn’t happened to you or someone you know, it can’t be real.

Got it. 
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January 06, 2021, 01:21:59 AM

You got me there. What does CCMF stand for?
Carolina Country Music Fest
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I can't believe we went all the way from under $30k to $34.5k in a day and couldn't quite hit a new ATH.
Amazing. Hey, remember when Bitcoin was in the 20s?
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Don't mind lightfoot, he is full of shit anyways, and for his next post he will promote P-100's.


Because if it hasn’t happened to you or someone you know, it can’t be real.

Got it. 

I don’t think anyone dies from the china virus alone..
Put me on the conspiritard list pls thx..
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January 06, 2021, 01:24:10 AM

You got me there. What does CCMF stand for?
Carolina Country Music Fest
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I can't believe we went all the way from under $30k to $34.5k in a day and couldn't quite hit a new ATH.
Amazing. Hey, remember when Bitcoin was in the 20s?


No, but I remember the 200s...
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January 06, 2021, 01:29:57 AM

You got me there. What does CCMF stand for?
Carolina Country Music Fest
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I can't believe we went all the way from under $30k to $34.5k in a day and couldn't quite hit a new ATH.
Amazing. Hey, remember when Bitcoin was in the 20s?


No, but I remember the 200s...
The fact that I was thinking 20k's and that yeah 200's is not that far off is.... wow.
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January 06, 2021, 01:34:29 AM

You got me there. What does CCMF stand for?
Carolina Country Music Fest
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I can't believe we went all the way from under $30k to $34.5k in a day and couldn't quite hit a new ATH.
Amazing. Hey, remember when Bitcoin was in the 20s?


No, but I remember the 200s...

Ed, how is Vegas treating you?

edit. I've been to Vegas twice, good fucking memories. Unfortunately I'm not welcome in the US anymore.
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January 06, 2021, 01:38:00 AM

flip a bitcoin for it.

By the way? What's on the back of a bitcoin?



Depends on the coin. Some have:



More modern ones have:



And the backs of Mindrust's ex-coins have:

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January 06, 2021, 01:48:19 AM

Ok, what about this.

Whoever reply to this message closest to the time when we pass $35k at Bitstamp will recieve 0.01 btc from me

 That game sounds like the old give rdbase 0.01 bitcoin game to me!
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January 06, 2021, 01:53:14 AM

You could keep your job too and just not accept any further promotions or responsibilities, or maybe work even less hours. I think it's a good idea to keep your employment as it makes you look "normal" together with the rest of the people. You work, get paid, pay taxes. Your corns can be kept separate (whether you pay taxes on those or not is really up to you and how comfortable you are with all of it, maybe take time to study this area too.)

While working, you can probably add to your retirement fund, whatever it is called, 401k for those in the US, "super funds" for those down under, plus whatever social security / social insurance you get from the government, if you intend on claiming those.


^ This (highlighted is my plan as well).

EDIT: if corn exceeds 90% of your assets, maybe consider selling some, but when selling don't keep all in fiat, buy some less correlated assets: real estate (direct, no REITs), wine, collectables, timber, maybe some cheap emerging markets ETF. I was looking at some stonks-you can create quite diversified ETF portfolio (10-15 ETFs in different sectors) with >5% average annual yield.

I'd probably get the REITs, or REIT ETFs. Also some high yield ETFs, maybe some of those so called dividend aristocrat ones. I'd also lean towards either S&P or even a total stock market ETF. My preference is Vanguard.

yes, I looked at highlighted, but not only at those.
A contrarian in me wants to be a contrarian, lol.

There is something about this area of discussion that seems a bit strange.. in the sense that I got rich as fuck with bitcoin in order that I can invest in some kind of mediocre product...

hahahahahha..

Sure, maybe diversify a small amount of your holdings, but there really does not seem to be any compelling reason to get too excited about those various other mediocre products.. in my thinkenings.

But hey, I already started out by having plenty of the mediocre investments when I started into bitcoin, after a few years (from 2013 to early 2017) even though I invested into BTC less than 1/10 of the amount that i had invested in my various mediocre investments, by early 2017 my BTC investment largely matched the value of my mediocre investments - largely through BTC price appreciation and then thereafter the BTC portion largely went on to surpass the value of the various mediocre investments.

Of course, during the various extremes of the BTC price dips (back into the $3ks), the value of the BTC did come closer to the value of the various mediocre investments yet  currently the BTC investment is around 16x the value size of the mediocre investments.. - and mostly due to BTC's ongoing price appreciation and the mediocre investments' mostly staying flat.. though the mediocre investments did go up a bit during that time but not as much as BTC.. so no where near the amount that the value of the BTC had gone up in that same time.
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You got me there. What does CCMF stand for?
Carolina Country Music Fest
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I can't believe we went all the way from under $30k to $34.5k in a day and couldn't quite hit a new ATH.
Amazing. Hey, remember when Bitcoin was in the 20s?


No, but I remember the 200s...

Ed, how is Vegas treating you?

edit. I've been to Vegas twice, good fucking memories. Unfortunately I'm not welcome in the US anymore.

Vegas is an amazing city.. I could move here..

I hate cities for the most part, but this city is clean and extremely welcoming..
My 2 favorite cities now are Traverse City and Las Vegas.. They seem similar in many ways..

Not to mention I accidentally won a bit.. Sooo.. Yeah..

Don’t think I have ever been to any other real “city” that I have liked..
Vegas is cool.. It’s even pretty easy to drive around here, modern street layout rather than trying to cram 20 turning lanes into a walking path..

Totally could see myself living here, or at least wintering here..
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January 06, 2021, 01:58:10 AM

I will say the "Alert levels" things are completely useless, no question there.
But media and authorities scaring peoples really feeling bad for this all because its nothing bad as they are doing this all.
Fail. I've had six people around me die due to COVID19, two who said "THIS IS NOT THE FLU" before they went. This is exceptionally serious.
I also have few peoples but good thing these all recovered and now feeling much better I am also feeling its really matter of worry but not like its showing on media.

Don't mind lightfoot, he is full of shit anyways, and for his next post he will promote P-100's.
Also queuing philipma, and a post about chronic damages from COV and his wife.

If I ever find a friend of a friend who has died from COV, I will let you know.



I'm still not tired to point out that most social and economic problems on this planet are results of poor education.

Exactly.
If that wasn't the case, then people like lightfoot would be rendered powerless.

Of the dozen or so people I know first hand who've had it, one was hospitalized and on a respirator, the rest had very mild cases, ranging from a bad cold to loss of smell and taste only.

It was not worth destroying economies over IMO, but that's where we're at.
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January 06, 2021, 02:02:14 AM

You could keep your job too and just not accept any further promotions or responsibilities, or maybe work even less hours. I think it's a good idea to keep your employment as it makes you look "normal" together with the rest of the people. You work, get paid, pay taxes. Your corns can be kept separate (whether you pay taxes on those or not is really up to you and how comfortable you are with all of it, maybe take time to study this area too.)

While working, you can probably add to your retirement fund, whatever it is called, 401k for those in the US, "super funds" for those down under, plus whatever social security / social insurance you get from the government, if you intend on claiming those.


^ This (highlighted is my plan as well).

EDIT: if corn exceeds 90% of your assets, maybe consider selling some, but when selling don't keep all in fiat, buy some less correlated assets: real estate (direct, no REITs), wine, collectables, timber, maybe some cheap emerging markets ETF. I was looking at some stonks-you can create quite diversified ETF portfolio (10-15 ETFs in different sectors) with >5% average annual yield.

I'd probably get the REITs, or REIT ETFs. Also some high yield ETFs, maybe some of those so called dividend aristocrat ones. I'd also lean towards either S&P or even a total stock market ETF. My preference is Vanguard.

yes, I looked at highlighted, but not only at those.
A contrarian in me wants to be a contrarian, lol.

There is something about this area of discussion that seems a bit strange.. in the sense that I got rich as fuck with bitcoin in order that I can invest in some kind of mediocre product...

hahahahahha..

Sure, maybe diversify a small amount of your holdings, but there really does not seem to be any compelling reason to get too excited about those various other mediocre products.. in my thinkenings.

But hey, I already started out by having plenty of the mediocre investments when I started into bitcoin, after a few years (from 2013 to early 2017) even though I invested into BTC less than 1/10 of the amount that i had invested in my various mediocre investments, by early 2017 my BTC investment largely matched the value of my mediocre investments - largely through BTC price appreciation and then thereafter the BTC portion largely went on to surpass the value of the various mediocre investments.

Of course, during the various extremes of the BTC price dips (back into the $3ks), the value of the BTC did come closer to the value of the various mediocre investments yet  currently the BTC investment is around 16x the value size of the mediocre investments.. - and mostly due to BTC's ongoing price appreciation and the mediocre investments' mostly staying flat.. though the mediocre investments did go up a bit during that time but not as much as BTC.. so no where near the amount that the value of the BTC had gone up in that same time.

Balance is important, at least sometimes.
Besides, if you are just playing with numbers, you would never have anything to show, but just better numbers.
I am with Boblaw on this one: when you are ready, sell a chunk (or borrow against it) and enjoy the spoils.
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January 06, 2021, 02:03:53 AM
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Y’all can’t wait another 6 months to sell??
It’s way too early..

The price now is lower than the next bottom after the blowoff in a year for gods sakes..
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Guys, I need your opinion.

First I want to make clear, I hold most of my coins. Dont freak out.

I had some fiat sitting on my bank account for some time now and decided to buy me a nice small apartment with that money since I missed to buy BTC with that. Around 70% of the money for the apartment comes from fiat. Now we agreed with the owner to pay the rest within 2 weeks. But I dont want to wait that long because he could sell it to somebody else if the offer is higher than I pay. The interest is high in that building. I did only pay him 0.1% as a down payment with the option to cancel from both sides.

The maximum I want to wait is next week. So, I am just watching the price all day. And currently we peaked pretty good. The 30% (around $30k) for the apartment will come from Bitcoin. Now, the higher the price, the less I pay of course. But I really cant predict the few coming days. I cant decide if I should sell now at almost 34k or just wait a bit more. Risk is there we dive deeper next week. Or even in the next hours (yes yes I know, long term is bullish etc.). But I would fuck my head if we go higher and I sold at 34k. I mean ok, 2-3k more is not that much some would argue. But 2-3k more is a fridge, a nice OLED TV and a chilly couch Smiley

Usually the rally is on the weekends the last 2-3 weeks. And currently I feel bullish. But January was never a good month for BTC. Any opinions? Sell now or hold couple more days?

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https://compound.finance

https://resources.curve.fi/

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Poll:

What to do with $600 stimmy on the way.

1. Convert it to btc using paypal.
2. Buy $600 worth of btc on your favorite exchange.
3. Buy a couple of bottles of Cristal (~$300/pop) to celebrate these incredible prices.
4. iPhone 12 mini (~$600 with trade-in).

What would be your choice?
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