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March 18, 2021, 07:12:03 PM

We do love a pump  Cheesy

Anyone at home yelling “pump” to their screens  Grin Cheesy

No, I'm normal.
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March 18, 2021, 07:13:16 PM

Bitcoin dead? For the 50000 time


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The whales are milking the stimmy noobs a bit  Cheesy

It feels like a bit too early to wipe out the leveraged longs, but maybe whales like to keep ahead of things today.
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March 18, 2021, 07:23:35 PM

Did the stimmy money end already?
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March 18, 2021, 07:35:43 PM

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Is the start of an institutional cycle led by Asia?
https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1372631393046499329?s=20
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March 18, 2021, 08:12:48 PM
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70k here we go come.

ftfy


80x      ??


I am playing it safe with 6x scalping with each small dip Cheesy I want to sleep but I cant. Already made 10% Cheesy

Anything beyond 1x seems dangerous to me, but sure maybe it is a matter of perspective because likely there are ways to increase the multiple (the quantity of x) and attempt to maintain a kind of neutral position rather than either gambling or lop-siding way too much..

One of the good things about 1x continues to be that there remains a bit of a disinclination to attempt to bet on down, but I surely do appreciate and recognize that there are going to be times in which down becomes quite a bit more likely which would include strong kinds of inclinations that the UPpity has run its course, but part of the problem remains various difficulties in really being able to identifying when the UPpity has adequately and meaningfully run its course, which frequently seems to be devolving into gambling rather than meaningful and measured calculations that really are grounded in solid maths and sciences.


Edit: leverage trading is a bad idea right now actually. With the stim money coming in, whales are going to start spooking the newcomers with flash dumps.

Leveraging always seems to be a less than preferable idea... especially when we are actually referring to king daddy.... but hey, to each their own.


As long as you know when to take a loss and don't get too greedy its fine. Also leverage trading is not meant to be hodled. Don't take your eyes off the chart and definitely dont go to sleep, hoping to see your bags triple by the morning.  Get in, wait for another green candle and quickly get out. Dont wait for the top. I take profit as soon as possible and do not fomo back in. Watch out for good news (like stimmy buy ins) aka high volatility in a clear direction and wait for the party to start.
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March 18, 2021, 08:19:39 PM

Meitu is becoming Asia's
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. The Chinese public listed firm has spent $50 million on purchasing #ETH and BTC.

Is the start of an institutional cycle led by Asia?
https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1372631393046499329?s=20


Butbut... China ban bitcoin....!?  Shocked
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Meitu is becoming Asia's
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Is the start of an institutional cycle led by Asia?
https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1372631393046499329?s=20


Butbut... China ban bitcoin....!?  Shocked

Only at end of the week, at start of the week they re embrace Bitcorn
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March 18, 2021, 09:19:28 PM



Does that mean that bitcoin will go to 149059014590 % ?!? Cheesy Cheesy

It seems to mean that you, save the rf, have not been doing very well with your recent DOWNity bets and your DOWNity proclamations.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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March 18, 2021, 09:59:51 PM

Hey, here's a thing that came to my mind pretty often since a month or two, and finally i actually remember that i said last year, that i keep you all up with the news.
It's about my GDPR Art 13. "Right to be forgotten" request to ledger.fr, regarding deletion of all my personal data from their systems.

So i finally got an Email from Ledger, about two months after the original request, that they successfully and permanently deleted my data.

Here it is:

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Hi,

Thanks for your data deletion request. We have taken appropriate steps to ensure the erasure of your personal data associated with the information you provided from our systems and relevant third-party providers.

Note that some of your personal data may be further retained by Ledger in order to comply with applicable data retention laws and other legal requirements (eg. tax and accounting requirements, fraud prevention).

Please rest assured that the protection of your personal data is of paramount importance for Ledger. Thank you for your patience and support as we continue building products and internal policies that respect your privacy.

Kind regards,

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No mentioning of my Name, Email or like that in the message text. Seems legit  Cool
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March 18, 2021, 10:01:36 PM
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Why are some Bitcoiners getting bent out of shape about this?  Just because NFTs run on generalized smart-contract chains,0 which Bitcoin is not?

To put it simply: in the crypto community, there seems to be this prevalent attitude that anything and everything crypto-born is absolutely fucking awesome and will change the world.

Well guess what, there was something absolutely fucking awesome created, one thing, and that was Bitcoin. It actually solved a problem with money that absolutely needed solving. And it will change the world.

Everything else is either a solution looking for a problem that doesn't exist, or isn't really a problem. 99.99% are just complete, straight up shitcoin scams.

NFTs are just the latest iteration of crypto scam-straction. They solve nothing that actually is a problem or needs fixing. They will eventually be relegated to the dustbin of history, along with shitcoins, ICOs, etc.
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March 18, 2021, 10:10:03 PM

Why are some Bitcoiners getting bent out of shape about this?  Just because NFTs run on generalized smart-contract chains,0 which Bitcoin is not?
To put it simply: in the crypto community, there seems to be this prevalent attitude that anything and everything crypto-born is absolutely fucking awesome and will change the world.
Well guess what, there was something absolutely fucking awesome created, one thing, and that was Bitcoin. It actually solved a problem with money that absolutely needed solving. And it will change the world.
Everything else is either a solution looking for a problem that doesn't exist, or isn't really a problem. 99.99% is just complete, straight up shitcoin scams.
NFTs are just the latest iteration of crypto scam-straction. They solve nothing that actually is a problem or needs fixing. They will eventually be relegated to the dustbin of history, along with shitcoins, ICOs, etc.
Can't the NFTs and bitcoiners just live side by side in harmony? Smiley
Maybe we should take some worldly advice from the animal kingdom on this one:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMfbt06A92U/



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lulz

Won an auction on Twitter bidding 1.2M sats for a limited edition swedetoshi Honey Badger finger board.

Figured you guys might appreciate this stuff.

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02/21 auction ends soon.

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March 18, 2021, 10:38:47 PM

Hey, here's a thing that came to my mind pretty often since a month or two, and finally i actually remember that i said last year, that i keep you all up with the news.
It's about my GDPR Art 13. "Right to be forgotten" request to ledger.fr, regarding deletion of all my personal data from their systems.

So i finally got an Email from Ledger, about two months after the original request, that they successfully and permanently deleted my data.

Here it is:

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Thanks for your data deletion request. We have taken appropriate steps to ensure the erasure of your personal data associated with the information you provided from our systems and relevant third-party providers.

Note that some of your personal data may be further retained by Ledger in order to comply with applicable data retention laws and other legal requirements (eg. tax and accounting requirements, fraud prevention).

Please rest assured that the protection of your personal data is of paramount importance for Ledger. Thank you for your patience and support as we continue building products and internal policies that respect your privacy.

Kind regards,

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No mentioning of my Name, Email or like that in the message text. Seems legit  Cool

It is legit. I received the exact same email (down to the last character) about 2 months ago. I also promised to report here and forgot about it... Hopefully they have wiped most/all of our data from their databases.
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Does that mean that bitcoin will go to 149059014590 % ?!? Cheesy Cheesy
No, it means fiat will go to zero, wake up some of the sheep and bitcoin will become its own point of reference basically going to infinity.

Infinity > insert whatever percentage you may like.
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March 18, 2021, 11:00:06 PM

lulz

Won an auction on Twitter bidding 1.2M sats for a limited edition swedetoshi Honey Badger finger board.

Someday you will look at this thing and say "I could have bought a Lambo for that."

And you will be cool with this. At which point you will experience total bodhi
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This dude almost had the same idea as me.

I was going to fart into a jar and sell it as an NFT.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/nyc-man-sells-fart-for-85-cashing-in-on-nft-craze/

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March 18, 2021, 11:08:19 PM

With only 100 BTC, you'll be very okay in the future, but you won't be a god. Remember, there are other gigachads who never died and have thousands of BTC, not to mention maybe the corporations that never sold are now masters of the other planets or something.
Sure, but if bitcoin isn't worth much they won't bother to wake me up. I can deal with that.

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mad scientist that woke you up: oh, it's about a few thousand years since you died, does the year matter? gimme my 1 bitcoin, it's worth $100 billion today. Enough for me to buy a week's worth of bread. After you, I have a bunch of dead bitcoiners to wake up too, you're the 200th one, don't worry.

Possible, but unlikely. With only 21m bitcoins ever it's going to be worth more than a loaf of bread. And if the world is that crap-sack I'd just say "well, kill me" and go on to the next life or whatever.

Really, there aren't many ways to lose (Ok, they could put your brain in a vat and torture you to give it up, but once again that's not a crap sack universe I want to live in anyway).
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March 18, 2021, 11:16:33 PM

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A few days ago, India once again announced a Bitcoin ban. Trading and possession of cryptocurrencies is punishable by up to 10 years in prison. Owners of cryptocurrencies have 6 months to get rid of them.

And what does the arch-enemy Pakistan do? Builds two mining farms Smiley
these two countries are like little children at war....the thing that India likes most is that Pakistan hates the most and vice versa Cheesy

This dude almost had the same idea as me.

I was going to fart into a jar and sell it as an NFT.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/nyc-man-sells-fart-for-85-cashing-in-on-nft-craze/


You'll be listed in the guinness record books as the "most valuable fart" sold through the NFT "lol"
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March 18, 2021, 11:34:51 PM

<snip>n a few years even holding 0.1BTC will be hard to achieve for newcomers. In fact, most people probably cannot achieve THAT without enormous saving effort already.
100BTC holders will live like kings, no doubt.

Considering that there are about 10-15K people with more than 100 BTC, it is unlikely that they will live like kings (not enough kingdoms, lol).
If btc 'consumes' a large swath of fiat, it would probably be the equivalent of $500 mil, give or take.
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March 19, 2021, 12:25:35 AM

8+ years later I'm retired with a close to double-digit $million fortune. What an incredible experience it's been. Traded so many shitcoins I thought I would end up broke.

Congrats to everyone who made it.

Congrats. You should be able to live the rest of your life very comfortably even if nothing else happens from now. $5m invested in "safe" investments will return at least $200k per year on 4%. Your double digit fortune should probably and likely will triple or more in the years to come, if they are still in bitcoin.

I see people mention such high interest rate figures here but nothing seems "safe" to me except for perhaps a property portfolio and protected banks only pay 0.5% if you are lucky.

4% is the oft-considered SWR or Safe Withdrawal Rate. It's based on a study by some folks from Trinity University studying stock market returns and backtesting them over 30 year periods. They used historical data from 1926-2009 and tested various rolling periods (i.e. for 30-year retirements, they tested 1926-1955, 1927-1958, 1928-1957,…,1980-2009).

Basically, the 4% applies to a 60/40 equities/bonds ratio portfolio, typically the S&P 500 or the Total Stock Market Funds and bonds, typically all US. Some do global or international.

Here is a favorite calculator to play with: https://firecalc.com/

The default values there imply a 95% success rate starting with $750k and withdrawing $30k per year for 30 years.

Thanks for providing that link.

Interestingly if you go to the "My Portfolio" tab and enter :"A portfolio with consistent growth of 200%" which is the historical BTC CAGR according to https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-s-compound-annual-growth-is-an-unheard-of-200-cagr, then anyone with a few BTC can retire right now ...  Wink

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