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when $100000 ?
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April 09, 2021, 12:48:25 PM

The fighting in Northern Ireland might start again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1lOPzUg0dQ

I'm afraid it never ceased
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April 09, 2021, 12:49:05 PM

When will this high power resistance on 60000 USD fall? Feels like an eternity ranging in my humble opinion. Surely we storm the fort in the next week or two.
It's stronger than predicted, I think the altcoin small upside seen recently is preventing that barrier to be crossed again. As soon as the alts crumbles 60k will be in reach.
 Weak ends will collapse and smart money will go back to corn.
About time.

Exactly, alts are just a staging area for money that will eventually flow to big daddy bitcoin.
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HSBC will not let clients buy Microstrategy stock due to their newly changed policy on "virtual currencies".

https://mobile.twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1380285286178041857

Nice way staying irrelevant, HSBC. I guess they will continue to focus on laundering money for the drug cartels instead.

It's fine. People are forced more to use exchanges and buy&hold real BTC.

Definitely.

I'm just surprised that they even banned their clients from buying stocks of a publicly listed company. What's their next move, stop letting their clients buying Tesla stocks, because they own BTC?
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April 09, 2021, 12:55:11 PM
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HSBC forbid his customer from buying Microstrategy because of:

"newly changed policy on virtual currencies"


Badge of honour for HSBC:


https://twitter.com/1e9petrichor/status/1380322413284618241?s=21
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April 09, 2021, 01:06:56 PM

When will this high power resistance on 60000 USD fall? Feels like an eternity ranging in my humble opinion. Surely we storm the fort in the next week or two.
It's stronger than predicted, I think the altcoin small upside seen recently is preventing that barrier to be crossed again. As soon as the alts crumbles 60k will be in reach.
 Weak ends will collapse and smart money will go back to corn.
About time.

I'm of the opinion that smart money wouldn't flip flop between alts and btc. They should just stay in alts for their arbitrage gaming fix.
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April 09, 2021, 01:26:24 PM
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Ah, I see you have covered my last couple of posts in another thread. I barely leave this thread, so I was unaware of that. Sorry if I was reposting.  Smiley
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April 09, 2021, 01:38:23 PM

today is friday
i will open a few cold ones
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April 09, 2021, 01:41:54 PM

Seems we're out of the downward channel.
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April 09, 2021, 01:46:33 PM

The fighting in Northern Ireland might start again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1lOPzUg0dQ

Sinn Fein / Religious conflicts at the root again. Wouldn't be the worst decision to ban religion.
But the worst is that the Brit government blames the EU for it.
Johnson is about the worst top politician i have witnessed so far: Brings nothing but disadvantages for the british people, seems to be proud of it.



And yet it all looked so good in 1648 with the peace of Westphalia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY
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April 09, 2021, 01:50:47 PM

When will this high power resistance on 60000 USD fall? Feels like an eternity ranging in my humble opinion. Surely we storm the fort in the next week or two.

I think by May  we are into the 70's. 
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April 09, 2021, 01:52:38 PM

HSBC forbid his customer from buying Microstrategy because of:

"newly changed policy on virtual currencies"

Badge of honour for HSBC:


https://twitter.com/1e9petrichor/status/1380322413284618241?s=21



FTFY.
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April 09, 2021, 02:13:37 PM
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point it i NEVER had to do anything to keep my corn. addresses i made in 2011 still work. the coin is still there. and i will never need to move those coins to some new format or lose them (well maybe when quantum computer are common).

altcoins swapping to tokens, = you really need to keep updated on them every 2 weeks at most, or at least every month. The ones I still have, somehow I managed to keep up with multiple swaps and still worth at least $100 ~ $500 for me, so I just let them sit and watch if anything develops. The developers and community seem sincere enough and continue to work on them, they simply are just not BTC, and ... you know the rest of the story.

As for your ancient 2011 legacy bitcoins, I would suggest you do try to move them to new addresses now, wait until the fee is reasonable or low *, or if you do need to move them anyway, make sure the change address is to a new format, the ones that start with bc1qxxxx so you save on future fees.

Then you might want to check if you have any of the fork coins too after that. If you had unmoved coins from 2011, you should have all of the other forks up to today, at least try to get some value out of the bigger ones BCH, BSV, BTG, BTD? (diamond?) not sure about the last one. They will at the very least pay for the transaction fees of your king daddy coin.

* sites I use to check current fees:
https://bitcoinfees.net/
https://mempool.observer/
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),2h,weight

The last one seems to be the most "accurate", I simply set it to 2 hours, default, and weight, then mouse over the end of the chart and look at the number near 1 vMB, which is around 40+ to 50+ sats right now. Then I double and triple check using the other two sites to see what they say (check to see if they also updated recently, maybe refresh the page, you will notice if their last block is like more than 600 minutes ago or something.)

Since you haven't moved any coins since 2011, you can probably get away with a low fee and just wait a day or two and it might confirm. But calculate the total fee value for yourself, and the difference between $1 and $5 or even $10 might not be worth the time waiting for a confirmation block.

If you have one whole coin or more, worth $58k-ish as of this post, then spending $20 to move it to another cold storage native segwit address (and grabbing the fork coins in the process) could be worth it.
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April 09, 2021, 02:23:04 PM
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Good job Trezor. Four things that are about to happen this year:

- Trezor Suite Mobile app for Android.
- Connect to your own full node.
- CoinJoin
- CoinControl and CPFP
- (and Tor is already supported)

https://twitter.com/trezor/status/1380464413807931399
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April 09, 2021, 02:29:04 PM

Fun fact, ABBA got famous by winning the Eurovision song contest in 1974 in Brighton, I watched it with some friends at a friends place in Rosengård (now a no go zone) and then biked home in the middle of the night, I was 14 and it was totally safe.
The song is called Waterloo, enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw

 No need to watch.  That song is hard-coded into my brain.  I wish my private keys could do that!
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So yeah if you are fairly young, then the timeline aspect can screw you up in terms of establishing an accumulation goal but then having to figure out how much that you would actually need to pull the fuck you lever in order to sustain yourself which could be a quite daunting projection in terms of the number of years or even your earning power if you are ONLY late 20s or early 30s as compared to someone who already entered into their 60s and likely has a much shorter time horizon and might not feel so compelled to conquer the world in terms of ongoing earning power.

I am still kind of assuming that you, shahzadafzal, are contemplating the top or possible tops in terms of your desire to accumulate more BTC, and you have not even come close to reaching your BTC accumulation goal, and that is part of the reason that you are expressing some anxiety in terms of what can be done (on a personal action level from yourself) in regards to BTC price swings that we largely know to be inevitable, but we really have few clues as to exactly when they might come - even if there are all kinds of trading theories including waves and some of that other bullshit that we could try to plug into bitcoin as a less mature asset class but has its own price performance models that help us to figure out how bitcoin's likely price performance fits into the other trading models.

Well i won't be denying your judgement in fact i would say it's pretty accurate... yes i would accept i'm still in the beginning of BTC accumulation phase.. my first BTC buy was in late 2017 so of course i'm late. and regarding the trading theories they all go above my head but i will believe if it's coming from someone credible.

.. and yeah, you want to incorporate selling into the formula.. I know I know.. and I do not recommend, unless it is very small amounts and  a kind of profit taking kind of formula.. consider the (SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings plan raking solution (even though rpietila.. rest in peace, was far from sane, there are some good ideas contained in that thread).


Wow i love it... that SSS analysis by rpietila is something... only wish if i had read it back in 2013 and its still valid but of course again it varies person to person and specially in today's market if you already own enough BTC let say in thousands you don't worry about acquiring more but spending carefully.



Well, if you work your fucking ass off in various ways, you can use money from what you have earned to buy bitcoin, including figuring out ways to cut your living expenses, such as vapourminer's favorite ramen noodles.. and you can use some or all of the saved money to buy bitcoin.  You can also forestall on making expensive purchases, including depreciating assets, and consider whether it is practical to own such an asset or decide to rent a $2k per month property that you can rent out 2/3 of it for $1,500 and only pay $500 per month in rent rather than getting a place for $1k per month in which you would have to pay all the expenses, which could give you $500 or more in money to invest into bitcoin.  Of course, your age, your skills and your ingenuity could make differences, and sometimes, luck can help too.. but maybe you prepare for being able to get x, y or z lucrative job, but you end up with luck and you get the xyz job that ends up being a better one than you had even contemplated but your preparations had help to put you in such a position.

keeping your many valuable advices a side this one i love the most hahaha...  well i see some of you guys have already convinced your partners on bitcoin but my wife... well she never opposed my bitcoin investments in fact she will support me but whenever I would ask her to buy BTC for her she would say "better buy me a gold ring"... so yeah I guess now my ramen noodles savings only can buy me some more BTC.


You have to decide for yourself what is your status in terms of accumulation and if you need to be spending time in more lucrative activities.  On a personal level, I have largely been on the forum for a bit over 7 years, but largely I had already reached a quasi-retirement status when I came to the forum.... and in my case, I had some business that I was involved in (in 2014, 2015 and 2016.. that I was trying to figure out ways to wrap up and get out of .. which also took several years to sort out.... but did not exactly require me to have to earn money from it.. even while I was trying to wrap it up. .. which probably ended up taking way more time than it should have.. but again personal choices regarding how to spend time and how much money is needed to be earned from some of the chosen activities.. or maybe what other benefits are derived from certain hobbies - such as maintaining health through exercise, even though it does not make any money)..  so each of us is in a different position.

Yes true many factors come along... of course you aren't alone there are people around you effecting your decision and choices too. So you have find a right balance... many of friends are in bitcoin but i think in my close family it's only me.



Of course, you are going to get hate for your wanting to talk about shitcoins in this here thread... not that it might not be a potentially valid way of gaining more bitcoin (and maybe scamming others out of their bitcoin?), but it is NOT on topic in this here thread.... because, in part, such shitcoin topics have tendencies to devolve into shitcoin pumpenings, bitcoin naysaying and a lot of distracting off-topic devolutions, distractions and nonsense.. and ain't nobody got time for dat!!!! at least not in these here parts.. so take your shitcoin contemplations and brainstormenings to udder parts of the forum.. there are udder parts of the forum for those kinds of contemplations and brainstormenings (that are potentially valid, but off topic in these here parts).

Thank you I got my answer...  but yeah i won't comment on it further Smiley
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Fun fact, ABBA got famous by winning the Eurovision song contest in 1974 in Brighton, I watched it with some friends at a friends place in Rosengård (now a no go zone) and then biked home in the middle of the night, I was 14 and it was totally safe.
The song is called Waterloo, enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw

Shilling Swedish pop from the 70s unashamedly...  Roll Eyes


But I have to admit, they produced some of the best Europop of the past century.
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April 09, 2021, 03:18:06 PM

Yes that’s always true “Not your keys, Not your coins”

One question how much can we trust these third party wallets then? Specially these wallets on our mobile apps. Although they give us access to the private keys but still can we trust them? I have been using Jaxx. But often I will open my wallet to confirm my coins are still there or some developer of Jaxx have already transferred my funds to some cold wallet :p

Why use Jaxx when Bitcoin for Android and Electrum works? What do these other wallets have? I understand some like Casa and Unchained are multi-signature services but you can also do those on your own.

Does Jaxx publish their source code for the app? Can you compile it yourself and check?

And Electrum have been promising easy multisig for a while. I expect they'll deliver when it's tested appropriately.


Thank you so much guys... I'm using Electrum now.

I have been using iPhone but for my bitcoins today I bought second phone Samsung galaxy S8... just for using Electrum and for the safety of my bitcoins and finally transferred my Jaxx bitcoins to Electrum wallet.

I'm sure bitcoin will pay off this little investment too.

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