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[xhomerx10]

By the same token, just because a person has covid when they die, doesn't mean they died of covid.  It's portrayed in quite the opposite manner though; it IS a covid related death even though they may have died due to taking a shower.

That's a pervasive conspiracy theory but not really true in most cases. IIRC some states (Oregon?) at one point didn't separate deaths "from COVID-19" and "with COVID-19" but the discrepancy is minimal even if you extrapolated it to the whole country. Your own assertion that 10% of people tested positive combined with normal annual death rate (below 1%) shows that this would barely make a dent in the 600k number.

Okay, I realize people are dying with covid but excess deaths on a 5 year average which doesn't take into account shifting age demographics or increasing population doesn't show us anything that would help to answer the question I posed.  We know that around 600,000 people in the US have died while either confirmed positive with covid or considered a presumptive covid case so far - I am not questioning that.  I'm not denying that covid is real or bad.  My question was, how many lost years of life does that represent as compared to lost years of life due to the negative vaccine side effects on the entire population of earth + booster shots for the rest of our lives.  After all, we're targeting 100% vaccination while only about 10% of the US population has tested positive for covid-19 and the mRNA technology is new and still experimental.

Death rates are quite stable year to year except for events like swine flue and now COVID-19. CDC data on this is quite extensive so if you can find something there to support your hypothesis please share. I don't really see anything like that. Even if you take VAERS numbers as vaccine-caused deaths (gross exaggeration) it's still quite obvious that the vaccine dramatically (~ ten-fold) reduces the risk of death or complications from COVID-19 and that is true among all age groups. Why would anyone not take a lower chance of death over a higher chance is quite puzzling but that's the funky times we live in.

 The graph you showed us doesnt address the death rate.  It addresses 'excess' deaths by using the previous 5 year average and subtracting it from the current number of deaths.  On top of that, it divides the 'excess' deaths by the previous 5 years averaged deaths which amplifies the value even further and displays it as a percentage.
 When you consider an increasing population, if the death rate stays constant, you will have more deaths year over year anyway.  You amplify that difference by subtracting the previous 5 year average which will be lower because the population was lower and call it 'excess deaths'.  Now you take that number and divide it by the previous 5 year average deaths which again is lower because population was lower and you get an exaggerated value which is barely passible as a valid result.  It also captures the heatwave deaths from 2020 which were an anomaly compared to the average of the previous 5 years (though there was a heatwave in 2016).  These are the statistics that lie; the ones 4 out of 5 of our parents warned us about 90% of the time.  It's a crude measurement which is an indication that there might be something happening which warrants an investigation.  
 How do we explain the elderly group dipping into negative territory in early 2021?  I've already said that there are more elderly as a percentage of population and the population in 2020 was higher than the previous years as well.  Disregarding covid, we should see excess deaths in that period as well but we dont.  Does this mean the vaccines prolonged life beyond even pre-covid life expectations?  Have we found the Fountain of Youth in the form of an mRNA vaccine?  Maybe it means that spike in November we attribute to covid took out those who would have died 3 to 6 months later of something other than covid anyway but that's speculation and probably not something we would base our covid response on.

 It probably goes without saying but I think we've overreacted to the covid pandemic.  I'm sick of the travel bans and lockdowns, I'm appalled at the economic devastation we've caused and I resent being essentially jailed for the last 18 months only being allowed day parole to attend to my essential businesses' needs while carrying a special letter in case I get stopped outside of my curfew or standing outside in endless lines 6 feet apart yet still wearing a mask waiting to shop for basic needs.  Remember when the news of the pandemic first broke and people all over the world rushed to the stores to buy all the food they could and they eventually had to limit the sale of sanitizer and paper products to one per customer?  I wish we would periodically adjust our covid response as well.  I think we've all seen one too many zombie apocalypse movies... our political leaders included.

[ChartBuddy]

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[Syke]

After all, we're targeting 100% vaccination while only about 10% of the US population has tested positive for covid-19 and the mRNA technology is new and still experimental.

If you don't "trust" mRNA vaccines, then get one of the non-mRNA vaccines. In fact, most covid vaccines are non-mRNA.

[xhomerx10]

After all, we're targeting 100% vaccination while only about 10% of the US population has tested positive for covid-19 and the mRNA technology is new and still experimental.

If you don't "trust" mRNA vaccines, then get one of the non-mRNA vaccines. In fact, most covid vaccines are non-mRNA.

 I can't.  My government thinks they're bad for me so now the only non-mRNA vaccine available here is AstraZeneca and only if you already received the first dose of it before it was put on hold.

Edit: just checked again and the only vaccines approved here are Pfizer and Moderna.  Jaansen was initially approved but even though we have 310k doses, they are not being released due to a quality control issue.

[ChartBuddy]

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[HI-TEC99]

Remember when the news of the pandemic first broke and people all over the world rushed to the stores to buy all the food they could and they eventually had to limit the sale of sanitizer and paper products to one per customer?

I remember they limited toilet paper to one per customer, but didn't have any left in stock anyway, so you couldn't even buy one pack.



For a while this thread became bidettalk instead of bitcointalk.

O, and thank you so much for making me read page after page of in detail accounts of ass wiping. The words "too much information" comes to mind.

[El duderino_]

#WhenSupplyShock

[OutOfMemory]

#WhenSupplyShock

Good morning
You mean toilet paper or bitcoin supply?  
I'd bet on the next halvening cycle for sure, if bitcoin is the matter. Maybe also this year, but then it will recover quickly. (SOMA)

EDIT: My sickness trip is not over yet, had 2 hours of sleep because of pretty intense sinusitis pain from forehead/eye to neck on one side. Luckily, my wife has bought a load of painkillers at the start of our first lockdown, but i had to dose em up slowly until they worked. Please, no more nights like this anymore!

EDIT2: Stil, i managed to see Sterling fall in favor of that penalty.   Pretty gay, mr. fish, but England is like the opponent Italy was calling for. Looking forward to a breathtaking match on sunday   It will be Chiesa vs. Sterling, in essence.

[ChartBuddy]

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[eXPHorizon]

Bah. Get a haircut, and get a real job, eXPHorizon. From your earlier posts, it seems that you may live in Mom's basement? You may need to change your tone in this thread, if you expect to be heard.... Here's some of your Reddit whining.

First of all i Salute you all Jedis, my Brothers and Sisters . My name is eXPHorizon and Today i come to you with great humility. As we all know the times are rough for everyone in this COVID-19 Times and in this time of this small Correction in the Price but Elon got that side Covered it seems so thats one great UP. However today i come here to ask this great community for help, me and my mother are in need of 200000 Doge coins. I know this is much to ask but honestly i have no strenght anymore and this will boost us very much ! And i give you my word that i will return that favor through the life. The matter is about Medical stuff and i would like to keep it personal as it is destroying me and my mom. There is the other stuff like debts etc.. We are in risk of losing all we worked for. This many Doge Coin will change our life ! It will give us the New Start we so desperately need .. She has been always so good and caring but i can not return the favor now as it matters as we both are kind of Damaged right now. But i give my hopes into this Life Changing community , i really do.

I promise to post before and after pics if this gets through and um i am so sorry for my terrible grammar and my terrible writing.. I am not good at this

THANK YOU FOR EXISTING GUYS

this is my wallet if you decide to help us (idiot info redacted)

This is just pathetic xD

[friends1980]

We're going down.

What is it this time?

[ivomm]

We're going down.

What is it this time?

Profit taking

[cygan]

https://twitter.com/SimplyBitcoin_/status/1412776975060570114?s=19

[ChartBuddy]

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[BobLawblaw]

[bitcoinPsycho]

250% up (12 months)   oh the pain

[ChartBuddy]

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[El duderino_]

Lets just hope that new people start to understand that the twitter-crypto traders are a poison in the space

im a massive Bull market, then everybody is right...

but just in a normal market they are like 85% wrong if not  more...

Continiously I read open a long, opened a short... they are only lucky the times when it goes good, last month they always chose the wrong side, its just laughable

Keep buying DIPS in a DCA manner and you will be OK in the long run, this is investment advise period

[OutOfMemory]

Huge amounts of stablecoin batches were reported to enter exchanges.
According to Jarvis staff this might be because of whales preparing for (this) dip to buy the bottom.

In another universe, i was just called by "microsoft support" on the phone, with a spoofed national number.
I just laughed at the "security expert" and hung up. Next time i will turn the game around and keep him busy   (I dowloaded and installed your support software three times now, and you still can't access my computer? ... You're the expert, tell me what's wrong...   )

EDIT: Gotta set up a virtual windows install with a lot of dick-pics on the desktop and (virtual) harddrive. 

[Dakustaking76]

Those people who are selling on the Twitter of musk
Are the dumbest persons in life 🤦‍♂️ Buy high sell low sell low buy high


He literally twittered about a f*cking  video who edited his face and pump Bitcoin.


When he is twittering about going to the wc/toilet to take a shit maybe then we will dump harder???

F*ccking retards