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October 11, 2023, 10:06:44 PM

almost 10 years of bitcoin for me.. .. life before bitcoin and life after getting into bitcoin.

My 10 year anniversary in bitcoin is in May 2024. Hopefully we have an approved spot ETF by then & an ATH maybe.

I was a fresh faced mid 20’s noob back then. I have done very well from bitcoin but my God, it ages you.

I wish that we may get the ETFs just a few days before your 10 year Bitcoin anniversary and that will be the best surprise for you. You were lucky enough to get into Bitcoin world in may 2014 and even more lucky that you gained knowledge about it in those days.

Ah, the ageing part is 100% true but the fun we have with it is more enjoyable then counting the years that we have waited to see it rise. In 20's most of us were playing online multiplayer games and we were not so good at financial things but age really teach us new things and that's why we are here with Bitcoin community for Bitcoin.
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October 11, 2023, 10:53:06 PM
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The real problem here is: There are three accounts on the (old) ledger. BTC, shitcoin1 from chain split, and shitcoin2. To send these anywhere, i have to restore the ledger in the first place. Then i can wipe/initialize it again. Now, i wouldn't call myself a Bitcoin maxi, if i would hold the shitcoins for longer, i just didn't feel the urge to sell them for BTC yet. These are small balances, too.

I doubt that it is necessarily wise to sell your shitcoins at any time other than a time in which you would like to sell them, and with any investment (or gamble) you should be ready, willing and/or able to ride out the rougher periods, and surely sometimes shitcoins are going to go down and never really come back, but that does not even necessarily mean you should sell them at a time that is anything other than your own choosing.

It was planned from the start, after gathering them. It's really not that much to make important wins out these funds anytime soon. For example, $18 or $81, i would not care and just throw all into Sats for convenience. So there was no urge to do it until date, but i should leave these coins behind at this opportunity.

 
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You could just leave your various shitcoins on that old seed, too... and in that way, if you ever wanted to access the shitcoins, you would just restore your old seed onto your ledger.. which would be wiping your new seed, reinstall your old seed, do whatever transactions you want to do with your shitcoins, and then reinstalling your new seed.. to the extent that you did not follow the earlier suggestion of just buying more than one ledger.. so in some sense I personally believe that it is is better to have aa few different hardware wallets around... even if some of them might cost a bit of money... but if you can buy some expensive spectacles to capture dee neanderlands in dee skies, you likely could afford an extra hardware wallet or two.. and presuming that you have more than 0.00419312 BTC that you are securing.  #nohomo
It's not the cost. I was struggling buying a second ledger, beause i had mixed experiences with my first one. It was a present for my wife, but she didn't use it, so i asked her to use it for backup. The second one has one of the buttons not going as smooth as the other one. However, i was interested in Trezor in the past, too. I don't remember which reason exactly kept me from buying one, in the end. Personally, i wouldn't have any problems intermediately (if that is even correct english?) storing my Bitcoin "on paper" and distributing them to future hardware wallets. I'm generally curious, so i guess i will use other different hardware wallet solutions in the future, too.

I personally like Trezor.. but people who are informed about bitcoin say good things about other wallets such as passport, coldcard, jade. and maybe a few others.

These are some of the more common names in this market. I had a look on some of them already, but no real reason to buy - for now.

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I have always been a bit skeptical of ledger and also the secure element being closed source, and then some of their drama coming out in the past 6 months or so they largely admitted that people are putting a lot of trust in them with the secure element.. and they are really supporting a lot of shitcoins.. sure Trezor supports some shitcoins too.. but you can set it up as bitcoin only.. I also found ledger to be quite finicky.. and have some lack of user friendliness.. including that I had one that I bricked and spent a lot of time fucking around with it causing me resentment over its lack of user-friendliness, and sure maybe they have improved, but I don't like having had those experiences.

That's why i asked ledger to delete my personal data from their servers immediately after delivery. I couldn't believe they had customer data hacked off their webshop server. What a no-go. It's impossible to compare this case to paper wallet security. A security device shouldn't get bricked too easily, imo.
I don't consider ledger products as perfect or even close, but they had the best suited and available ones at the time i decided to use a hardware wallet.


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The backing up of your seed and the ways of interacting with your coins are different.. and sure, I don't claim to be any kind of expert in the various possibilities, so maybe I should get off my high horse in terms of your earlier choice of ledger.

High horse?
I recognized your opinion just as your opinion  Grin

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My thinking has always been to buy on the way down.. (if it were to happen to happen) rather than getting depressed (or worked up) about it... sure sometimes the amount of down does cause me to get even more nervous than usual, especially when I am running out of money to buy more, which does happen from time to time, so surely I can relate to being bothered by extremes.. yet I cannot relate as much merely by frustration that the BTC price is not going up as fast as we wished it would.. especially we have been here a while.. and then also from newbies who should be taking advantage of dips.. and yeah sure Paashaas is not a newbie, even though some of his latest posts have been coming off as if he has been making some bad gambling moves with his bitcoin stash.,, whatever it might be.

I don't even want to know. It's not really important (other than to Paashaas himself).
When running out of money to buy more (as of lately), i used the courage to just hodl, which is a consequence of taking part in this thread for some years. Time runs, when i think back and recognize how many years have passed since my first Bitcoin buy. My BTC-Moment  Cool Smiley
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That's why i asked ledger to delete my personal data from their servers immediately after delivery. I couldn't believe they had customer data hacked off their webshop server. What a no-go. It's impossible to compare this case to paper wallet security. A security device shouldn't get bricked too easily, imo.
I don't consider ledger products as perfect or even close, but they had the best suited and available ones at the time i decided to use a hardware wallet.

It dumbfounds me to believe anyone can trust ledger after this but then again I could never understand anyone ever adding trust into a specifically designed trustless system in the first place.
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So Buddy goes again.

Wed I did a dca. and I have some step down buys setup.
Along with step up sales.
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Biden borrowing binge driving ‘unsustainable’ rise in global debts, warns IMF
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