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October 27, 2023, 06:04:21 PM
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LOL
This is actually the perspective of a girl in a Bukkake session  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
What does the author want to tell us?  Huh

We can all suspect what he had in mind by first posting an image of a girl in lingerie and then a gif where the reddit dude is polishing his rod.
Excuse him, his mind is elsewhere.
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October 27, 2023, 06:13:32 PM
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Nobody truly owns any bitcoins..because the ownership is only established when you are able to apply a correct private key in a "send" tx (via hardware device or something else), albeit validation of the private key (at some other point in time) is possible. Before that, it is all allegedly. This is in principle, of course.

This is like saying that your house is not truly yours, until you put the key in the lock and open the door...

Eh...apples and oranges.

With a house, whoever legally holds the deed owns the house, regardless of who owns the key. If you have a mortgage loan, you may have the key, but the bank owns the house...you just own the debt. If the deed is lost, there is still usually a backup trail of docs that correctly identify the last owner, who can still lay claim.

With bitcoin, the private key is the deed, and whoever holds it owns the bitcoin. As we have seen with CSW, (so far) a lawsuit can hardly prove otherwise. And if the private key is lost, no one owns the bitcoin, nor ever will again.

I totally agree with what you're saying. Physical keys don't mean anything in terms of house ownership. You missed what I was trying to say, and it looks like my house-key analogy may have been somewhat misleading...

Biodom suggested that our BTC is not truly ours, until we actually make a transaction using our keys and the transaction clears in the blockchain. Before that, our coins are in a "limbo" state, not truly owned by us. Something like how Schrödinger's cat is neither alive nor dead, until we peek inside the box. What he suggests has more of a philosophical than practical significance. I argued that code, math & science practically guarantee that our coins are really ours, even before we make a transaction.

In terms of my house-key example, think "house access" instead of "house ownership". Biodom suggests that we don't truly have access to our property, until we physically put the key in the lock and turn it to open the door. Before that, there is no guarantee that we have access. We get in, we have (and have proved we have) access; we leave the house, we lose the certainty of having access, until we turn that key again. Philosophically (even metaphysically) this theory may have some value, but not so much in a real-life, practical setting.

I hope it's now clearer.
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Why do you feel that you have to bring me into your little game?
Because:

a) I can.
b) You’re my favourite AI across the whole internet.
c) I want to expose your silicon ass, as much as possible.

That is sweet, in your own kind of a way.  I suppose.

Even though you overall conclusion is positive about bitcoin, you surely make a grim showing in order to get there,
...
does it matter very much?
Its not really grim, it is wise to keep an eye out for good buying opportunities. I would love a lower Bitcoin price because I know it will go much higher in the near future. Gotta fill up those bags.

It seems to me that we should be prepared for either direction, and wishing for down (or hoping for down) seems like such a low coiner and/or no coiner kind of a move, and surely you have been in bitcoin enough time to have had prepared for UP.. but yeah, I do understand that it takes time to accumulate including if we have cashflow that is growing, then we might not have been able to invest as much fiat (in the past) as we might be able to invest now.

Who’s weekend pump ready?


me

me

me.


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whatever.  either way.  I am not going to get my hopes up. .but if it happens, it happens.  Can never really complain about premature uppity.. or uppity happening sooner than expected.. . not saying that I had any specific time frame in mind, but it would surely be shocking if we were able to reach an ATH prior to the happening.. maybe that should be a group wish for a premature expectation that may or may not end up playing out.

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What's that bad smell in here?

Cryptotourist is that you?(you sad fuck)
 

Hahahahahaha

Looks just like him.


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This is actually the perspective of a girl in a Bukkake session  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
What does the author want to tell us?  Huh
Wait this one represents this Thread in more detail 🤭


You could at least put some names on the characters in order to give it some context.  You lazy and imprecise fuck.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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I just had to search for this image, as the girl is truly heavenly beautiful.

It is AI-generated!

Just imagine the possibilities...
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in addition to the options for losing keys mentioned by Biodom, there is always an unexpected hacking option. We can recall the story that happened a few months ago with Libbitcoin, where key generation was carried out with insufficient entropy, as a result of which the keys generated in this way were especially vulnerable to hackers. This way, you can be confident in the safety of your keys and still face the loss of your bitcoins. The probability of this is almost zero, but still not zero.

This is why addresses must be created on a computer which has no internet connectivity and printed on a printer that will never have internet access. Printer spooler buffers can be hacked.

What you say is correct, but it would not have helped in the Libbitcoin story. There, the method of generating private keys itself was compromised; it turned out to be insufficiently random. If, with a sufficient level of entropy, potentially only a quantum computer in a few decades will be able to crack the private key of Bitcoin, then the keys generated by software using Libbitcoin can be cracked by a fairly powerful ordinary computer. And this is an unacceptable level of vulnerability. Even if you generate a key on a computer that is not connected to the network, this would not be enough. If anyone has used any software that uses Libbitcoin and has not yet transferred their bitcoins to other addresses, it is better to do so immediately.
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I think that if Gary Gensler still serves as Chairman of the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Bitcoin ETF Maintance/Assessment that is scheduled is only a pseudo hope that it will be approved by him ..




Do you have the same thoughts with me? Grin
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I just had to search for this image, as the girl is truly heavenly beautiful.

It is AI-generated!

Just imagine the possibilities...

Yeah, the AI can generate pretty good photos these days and I'm sure that in future it will be more advanced to create something that would be very real.

I believe there are possibilities and dangers as well. When AI gets too smart then people can use it for negative things as well.

They may make naked pictures of someone and blackmail that person and do many bad things with that person.

AI is good as long as the ones who use it have a good mindset.
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I just had to search for this image, as the girl is truly heavenly beautiful.

It is AI-generated!

Just imagine the possibilities...

True. How could i not see this?!
(Count the knuckles!)
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October 27, 2023, 07:34:05 PM

in addition to the options for losing keys mentioned by Biodom, there is always an unexpected hacking option. We can recall the story that happened a few months ago with Libbitcoin, where key generation was carried out with insufficient entropy, as a result of which the keys generated in this way were especially vulnerable to hackers. This way, you can be confident in the safety of your keys and still face the loss of your bitcoins. The probability of this is almost zero, but still not zero.

This is why addresses must be created on a computer which has no internet connectivity and printed on a printer that will never have internet access. Printer spooler buffers can be hacked.

Whats wrong with handwriting?
All possible leaking problems avoided and it should not be like a big deal writing a dozen of simple words down.

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This why addresses must be created on a computer which has no internet connectivity and printed on a printer that will never have internet access. Printer spooler buffers can be hacked.

Whats wrong with handwriting?
All possible leaking problems avoided and it should not be like a big deal writing a dozen of simple words down.

I like QR codes.
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in addition to the options for losing keys mentioned by Biodom, there is always an unexpected hacking option. We can recall the story that happened a few months ago with Libbitcoin, where key generation was carried out with insufficient entropy, as a result of which the keys generated in this way were especially vulnerable to hackers. This way, you can be confident in the safety of your keys and still face the loss of your bitcoins. The probability of this is almost zero, but still not zero.

This is why addresses must be created on a computer which has no internet connectivity and printed on a printer that will never have internet access. Printer spooler buffers can be hacked.

Whats wrong with handwriting?
All possible leaking problems avoided and it should not be like a big deal writing a dozen of simple words down.



well, in this case you rely on additional wallet or ledger/trezor software, right?
@Who is John Galt?, I believe, gave an example of the real life case of such wallet software derping and getting itself hacked.
I read recently about one example of supposedly unhackable hadware (iron key or iron box?) getting hacked via a relatively simple method: they were able to reopen it for many tries (instead of just 10) and after 200 tril tries, they got the code. There were other cases. Normies and/or nocoiners cannot know what will or will not work in a long run.
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I just had to search for this image, as the girl is truly heavenly beautiful.

It is AI-generated!

Just imagine the possibilities...

True. How could i not see this?!
(Count the knuckles!)

true, typically...but at some angles the joint between the two phalanges of the thumb can resemble a knuckle.
it's messed up for a general case...I agree...but at least it is not 6.
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I just had to search for this image, as the girl is truly heavenly beautiful.

It is AI-generated!

Just imagine the possibilities...

True. How could i not see this?!
(Count the knuckles!)

Well, I didn't even consider the possibility of it being AI-generated. I did a Google image search and got a single hit to some kind of social media page of a Japanese gal, that's full of AI-generated girls.

Knuckles/palm looks OK to me. Maybe borderline 6-fingered, but not clear enough. Doesn't in the least affect the overall hotness of the girl.
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True. How could i not see this?!
(Count the knuckles!)

true, typically...but at some angles the joint between the two phalanges of the thumb can resemble a knuckle.
it's messed up for a general case...I agree...but at least it is not 6.

Yeah, just zoom in, you'll recognize the other details. My initial thought on this pic was "Photoshop", but i didn't zoom in to look closer, at that time.
I admit, i tried to position my hand, watching it in the mirror, to form a straight line of "knuckles" after reading your post  Grin


Well, I didn't even consider the possibility of it being AI-generated. I did a Google image search and got a single hit to some kind of social media page of a Japanese gal, that's full of AI-generated girls.

Knuckles/palm looks OK to me. Maybe borderline 6-fingered, but not clear enough. Doesn't in the least affect the overall hotness of the girl.

Not even questioning the hotness  Grin
But there are some more hints if you look closer. The shadow of the hair strand, different reflections in both pupils, shadow of the forearm is missing.
I'm absolutely drawn to details, you know. That's why i wonder that i missed the five straight-lined knuckles on the first view.
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...a quiet 'iPad' evening with a glass of red.
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