Oh fuck. I hate when I do that. I wrote a whole post, and then I accidentally hit refresh, and that does not work out so well.
We all hate that. You got my sympathy.
I have a bit of trouble with the idea of keeping my mouth shut in a group, and surely there can be situations in which my attention is sparked such as some bitcoin naysayers who are spouting out nonsense or a shitcoin pumpener, so I might not be able to resist, and at the same time, if I am admitting to facts about knowing about bitcoin for nearly 10 years, then that is one thing, versus you are in a situation in which you have known about bitcoin for about a cycle and a half, right OOM?
I suppose if there are insiders and outsiders in the group, then the insiders are not looking to the outsiders for responses, and so in that case, it ends up being a lot easier to end up in the fly on the wall kind of role.
I am surely not going to disagree with much of any of the representations that you made, OOM, because really there are quite a few clueless folks in regards to bitcoin, but surely it is coming up in more and more conversations, and so sometimes we are going to end up running into folks with decent levels of knowledge.
About a year and a half ago, I recall being in a line at a supermarket, and I guy in his mid to late 20s. maybe looking a bit like a backpacker type, asked the cashier if they accept bitcoin or something like that, and I really felt like saying something to the guy, but I did not, and I looked at the person who I was with and we even exchanged a few words. He kind of reminded me of a kind of stereotype bitcoiner (maybe even shitcoiner, who knows?).. but at the same time, I cannot really know anything because I choose NOT to say anything.
I remember another time at a booth in a restaurant in maybe mid-to-late 2016, I was with a friend and we were talking about bitcoin and going over some information, and a guy next to us said something like: Oh you are talking about bitcoin, have you heard about X shitcoin. I cannot remember exactly, but we exchanged a few words with him and then went back to our business, but we did not want to talk about bitcoin anymore until after we left the restaurant to kind of express a bit of annoyance at the guy for budding into what we thought was mostly a private conversation.. and a kind of then presumption that no one really knows about bitcoin.
I have no problem keeping my mouth not shut in a trusted, often private environment, debating with people i know or at least know that i can expect knowledge or openness at least. (pretty much like here in the WO, on a second thought)
Well, there's a close friend that knew about me being a bitcoiner, since shorty after i bought the first amounts of corn. He coincidentally bought some other, yet established shitcoin, so we were discussing out the two. He said he wanted to have a whole coin, not just a fraction, and that said shitcoin was rumored to be the next Bitcoin killer (oh yeah?), which in hindsight, was not the case
However, he sold at about 3x gains in the 2018 altseason, and he was satisfied with that, but he didn't want to continue investing, because it's so much stress and that all... "You can lose everything every day"... I asked him, if he didn't know that from the beginning, and he said "yes, but...".
I never told him an exact amount when i was talking about my holdings, in advance to rule out jealousy, which can really kill a friendship, later i said i had to sell "most of my corn" to finance the extension of my house, which was at least partly true, because i was speculating with a small amount of Bitcoin bought in 2019, a short while after the capitulation bottom and sold a few months later. We were staying good frens this way, and we still talk crypto every now and then.
The other one was an assistant in the company i worked for. He was an altcoiner, but really about equal BTC and fiat gains, making some money while building a stack. It was around the 2021 crashening. He was "consulting" his boss how and which crypto to buy, and it worked out for a while, and then he left the company. I was undecided if i should show my knowledge and opinions to him (and the boss), but i managed to favor Bitcoin without even mentioning if and how much cryptos i held, because nobody even asked.
On all the other rare occasions i always played the role of the educated nocoiner. This did fit quite good, because the other people were nocoiners at well. One dad was talking about his stock investments with another dad when i picked up one of my kids after school once, and dad A said out of the blue "I am about to buy Bitcoin next", and it was last year, so his timing wasn't that bad, at least no real FOMO, but i only kept listening without even looking at them.
I forgot another former friend (he broke up with everybody because getting mad and paranoid from amphetamines), whom i talked to about Bitcoin at the time when i didn't have any, but he was frequently using low 2 digit Bitcoin amounts to buy drugs via darknet. It was around $300 at that time. I was already knowing a bit more than about the basics of Bitcoin and decided to buy and hodl some for myself, but got distracted to do so for years by my fucked up memorization. 2017 i was doing better and after i found a convenient way to buy corn, i started to build my lil stash when the price was about $2800, which was the lowest price i ever paid for any of my Bitcoin holdings.
Not really lucky, but still kind of. I always was a humble guy, so i am satisfied.
I even learned about Bitcoin in the early days through curiosity, but i just fucked up getting things going, mainly because i ceased to function in 2012.
You see my mind is wandering quite a lot, i am dog tired, trying to get some sleep next.
I'll also skip the haiku today. #GN
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