Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Biodom]

I take it BTC is only allowed to go up after Jerome Powell takes a dump, right?

Imho, PTB are accumulating.
re the 'dump'..bitcoin does not listen to anyone (well, maybe, except Satoshi).
Bitcoin went to a marginal ATH with short term interest rates at around 5.35% and credit cards at 20% or even higher (highly restrictive).

S&P 500 has a 13.11% return year to-date (in less than half a year and including dividends).
Make your own conclusions on whether bitcoin will have a bull continuation and when.
To me, this bitcoin cycle maps similarly to 2017 so far.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[Biodom]

OT: building a new PC...Intel's i7 (bought it some time ago, but never assembled)-I was surprised that they sell it w/o a fan, lol.
Went to the Microcenter- the recommended fan assembly is literally a "mountain" in comparison with a tiny CPU.
Wow! Seems like an overkill to me (I got Noctua U14S or something like this), but i decided to play along.

[JayJuanGee]

72033 dropped to 70645 but we are up to 71253 all in the last 25 minutes

The high was $71,949.

There is no need to use some other exchange or price measurement on purpose since you already know that "we" (not even royal) use Bitstamp in these here parts.

Faketoshi getting ripped apart in court, very real possibility of criminal charges for him now. FAFO

Don't drop the soap Craig.

I'll believe it when I see it.... meaning the part about going to prison.  Yes, he deserves such a thing, especially for abusing the justice system so much with forgeries and even knowingly false testimony.. yet one can wonder why such a thing has been going on for so long.. 8 years or so.. depending upon which forgeries, and depending on if it was done in front of a court of law or merely in the non-court of law context.

[philipma1957]

72033 dropped to 70645 but we are up to 71253 all in the last 25 minutes

The high was $71,949.

There is no need to use some other exchange or price measurement on purpose since you already know that "we" (not even royal) use Bitstamp in these here parts.

Faketoshi getting ripped apart in court, very real possibility of criminal charges for him now. FAFO

Don't drop the soap Craig.

I'll believe it when I see it.... meaning the part about going to prison.  Yes, he deserves such a thing, especially for abusing the justice system so much with forgeries and even knowingly false testimony.. yet one can wonder why such a thing has been going on for so long.. 8 years or so.. depending upon which forgeries, and depending on if it was done in front of a court of law or merely in the non-court of law context.

fuck bitstamp they are selling out.

I use aggr.trade they have nice bells.



learn to pivot bro do not stay stuck in the past.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[xhomerx10]

OT: building a new PC...Intel's i7 (bought it some time ago, but never assembled)-I was surprised that they sell it w/o a fan, lol.
Went to the Microcenter- the recommended fan assembly is literally a "mountain" in comparison with a tiny CPU.
Wow! Seems like an overkill to me (I got Noctua U14S or something like this), but i decided to play along.

 I'm literally looking for deals every single day on computer parts - it's part of my long term upgrade plan.
Saw this deal yesterday - still available

 https://us-store.msi.com/m240



 

[philipma1957]

OT: building a new PC...Intel's i7 (bought it some time ago, but never assembled)-I was surprised that they sell it w/o a fan, lol.
Went to the Microcenter- the recommended fan assembly is literally a "mountain" in comparison with a tiny CPU.
Wow! Seems like an overkill to me (I got Noctua U14S or something like this), but i decided to play along.

 I'm literally looking for deals every single day on computer parts - it's part of my long term upgrade plan.
Saw this deal yesterday - still available

 https://us-store.msi.com/m240



 

I was thinking of getting an I7 14700khttps://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-core-i7-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118466?

and a taichi z790 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162139?

2x32 gb sticks of ram https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb/p/N82E16820982134?

a 4tb nvme2 ssd https://www.newegg.com/samsung-4tb-990-pro/p/N82E16820147879?

4070 ti https://www.newegg.com/msi-video-card-rtx-4070-ti-super-16g-aero-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814137880?I



about $2100

[Biodom]

OT: building a new PC...Intel's i7 (bought it some time ago, but never assembled)-I was surprised that they sell it w/o a fan, lol.
Went to the Microcenter- the recommended fan assembly is literally a "mountain" in comparison with a tiny CPU.
Wow! Seems like an overkill to me (I got Noctua U14S or something like this), but i decided to play along.

 I'm literally looking for deals every single day on computer parts - it's part of my long term upgrade plan.
Saw this deal yesterday - still available

 https://us-store.msi.com/m240



 

Noice!
Thanks

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[JayJuanGee]

72033 dropped to 70645 but we are up to 71253 all in the last 25 minutes

The high was $71,949.

There is no need to use some other exchange or price measurement on purpose since you already know that "we" (not even royal) use Bitstamp in these here parts.

fuck bitstamp they are selling out.

I use aggr.trade they have nice bells.

learn to pivot bro do not stay stuck in the past.

Yes., you are doing it on purpose because you are a twat.

We've been using bitstamp here since around 2014 (after the issues with Gox).. and then there was some dispute in 2015/2016 regarding which ones to use.. so then CB was using Stamp, Bitfinex and Coinbase, but when CB returned, he had only been using Stamp.. and sure CB is not the determiner of what we do, yet Richy_T was likely trying to go along with the sentiment here.. ... as  point of reference..

Sure, sometimes, there might be some needs to compare across exchanges or different ways that sort of subject might come up, yet there would be a reasonable inference that anyone who is referring to the price and not making a reference would be referring to bitstamp.. otherwise you are potentially being misleading.. and yeah, sure from time to time there have been guys who refer to prices on other exchanges and/or services, yet it seems that as a courtesy they will mention which one they are referring to, otherwise the default would be bitstamp... until we might come to agree that some other exchange (or aggregator) might be preferred or even cross-referenced.

It is not like you should not already know these kinds of things. . but whatever, you do you, and if you want to continue to be a twat, I suppose that is your choice.. maybe you will win over some converts  - even though I recall recently that several other members already tried to be polite to you in terms of letting you know that we use bitstamp here.. so the mere fact that Robinhood bought them does not necessarily justify that we should change our default reference in this thread (at least not yet).. or maybe at least not until seeing some evidence in regards to bitstamp no longer being representative of BTC price dynamics.

You know (or should know) that part of the reason to have a default reference in terms of a thread like this is so that everyone is kind of on the same page in terms of what is the thing that they are referencing.. so that we don't have to bounce all over and try to figure things out (so maybe several of us watch bitstamp so that we can be somewhat coordinated with the way BTC prices are being discussed in this thread), but it does not mean that members cannot use other price services or references for their own personal reasons.. or other BTC price dynamic matters that they might be looking at.. including that they might even be totally opposed to using Bitstamp as an actual place that they do business.

I do believe that the arbitrage differences between exchanges is way less than what it was in 2014 - 2017 - though of course, from time to time we will see some considerable differences and even great spikes on some exchanges that do not occur on other exchanges, and there can be all kinds of reasons - but still there can also be some comfort to have a starting reference point in order to make comparisons.. and surely at some point some guys might want to switch to some other exchange (and/or price reference point), but surely we are not there yet.. at least not in this thread and purely based on your own seeming to want to make an issue (or drama) about the topic.  Anything else you want to argue about? or are you just purposefully want to be contrarian and whine about something that should not even be an issue?

[xhomerx10]

OT: building a new PC...Intel's i7 (bought it some time ago, but never assembled)-I was surprised that they sell it w/o a fan, lol.
Went to the Microcenter- the recommended fan assembly is literally a "mountain" in comparison with a tiny CPU.
Wow! Seems like an overkill to me (I got Noctua U14S or something like this), but i decided to play along.

 I'm literally looking for deals every single day on computer parts - it's part of my long term upgrade plan.
Saw this deal yesterday - still available

 https://us-store.msi.com/m240



 

I was thinking of getting an I7 14700khttps://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-core-i7-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118466?

and a taichi z790 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162139?

2x32 gb sticks of ram https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb/p/N82E16820982134?

a 4tb nvme2 ssd https://www.newegg.com/samsung-4tb-990-pro/p/N82E16820147879?

4070 ti https://www.newegg.com/msi-video-card-rtx-4070-ti-super-16g-aero-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814137880?I



about $2100

 Nice full-featured mobo
This is similar to what I'm aiming for in a system but I would prefer the i7-14700F just because it's ~half the wattage while being only about 16% slower than the K

[Biodom]

Not sure why bitstamp question comes up with such vehemence.
Maybe @JJG is using their APIs?
Once Bitstamp would be consumed by Robinhood, there would not be such entity, called Bitstamp, like there is no AOL anymore.
At that point it could become awkward...js.
For myself...the world is wide open...use whatever, as long as it is accurate.

[Biodom]

OT: building a new PC...Intel's i7 (bought it some time ago, but never assembled)-I was surprised that they sell it w/o a fan, lol.
Went to the Microcenter- the recommended fan assembly is literally a "mountain" in comparison with a tiny CPU.
Wow! Seems like an overkill to me (I got Noctua U14S or something like this), but i decided to play along.

 I'm literally looking for deals every single day on computer parts - it's part of my long term upgrade plan.
Saw this deal yesterday - still available

 https://us-store.msi.com/m240



 

I was thinking of getting an I7 14700khttps://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-core-i7-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118466?

and a taichi z790 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162139?

2x32 gb sticks of ram https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb/p/N82E16820982134?

a 4tb nvme2 ssd https://www.newegg.com/samsung-4tb-990-pro/p/N82E16820147879?

4070 ti https://www.newegg.com/msi-video-card-rtx-4070-ti-super-16g-aero-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814137880?I



about $2100

 Nice full-featured mobo
This is similar to what I'm aiming for in a system but I would prefer the i7-14700F just because it's ~half the wattage while being only about 16% slower than the K

Is super CPU even needed with games being run by the GPU?
I forgot the time i was looking for the fastest CPU on the regular basis.

[Hueristic]

I was thinking of getting an I7 14700khttps://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-core-i7-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118466?

Intels are garbage now.

[Biodom]

I was thinking of getting an I7 14700khttps://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-core-i7-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118466?

Intels are garbage now.

This says that it depends on your range (for gaming):

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html

Overall Best CPU for Gaming: $350 to $400   AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (Buy) [More]   Intel Core i7-14700K (Buy)
Value Best CPU for Gaming: $200 to $250   AMD Ryzen 5 7600X (Buy)  [More]   Core i5-13400 (Buy) | Ryzen 7 5700X3D (Buy)
Highest Performance Best CPU for Gaming: $500+   AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D (Buy) [More]   Intel Core i9-13900K (Buy)
Mid-Range Best CPU for Gaming: $250 to $300   Intel Core i5-13600K (Buy) [More]   Ryzen 7 5800X3D (Buy)
Budget Best CPU for Gaming: $100 to $150   Intel Core i3-12100F (Buy) [More]   AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (Buy)
Entry-Level Best CPU for Gaming: (iGPU)    Ryzen 5 8600G (Buy) [More]   AMD Ryzen 5 5600G (Buy)

[philipma1957]

cheap corn under 69k

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[Hueristic]

I was thinking of getting an I7 14700khttps://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-core-i7-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118466?

Intels are garbage now.

This says that it depends on your range (for gaming):

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html

Overall Best CPU for Gaming: $350 to $400   AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (Buy) [More]   Intel Core i7-14700K (Buy)
Value Best CPU for Gaming: $200 to $250   AMD Ryzen 5 7600X (Buy)  [More]   Core i5-13400 (Buy) | Ryzen 7 5700X3D (Buy)
Highest Performance Best CPU for Gaming: $500+   AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D (Buy) [More]   Intel Core i9-13900K (Buy)
Mid-Range Best CPU for Gaming: $250 to $300   Intel Core i5-13600K (Buy) [More]   Ryzen 7 5800X3D (Buy)
Budget Best CPU for Gaming: $100 to $150   Intel Core i3-12100F (Buy) [More]   AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (Buy)
Entry-Level Best CPU for Gaming: (iGPU)    Ryzen 5 8600G (Buy) [More]   AMD Ryzen 5 5600G (Buy)

They are Degrading on default bios.

I used to post on Toms years ago, its bought and paid for these days.

https://forums.tomshardware.com/members/hueristic.120367/

[JayJuanGee]

Not sure why bitstamp question comes up with such vehemence.
Maybe @JJG is using their APIs?
Once Bitstamp would be consumed by Robinhood, there would not be such entity, called Bitstamp, like there is no AOL anymore.
At that point it could become awkward...js.
For myself...the world is wide open...use whatever, as long as it is accurate.

You believe that we should just "use whatever" within this thread?

How are we going to know the BTC price reference if the members are not saying their BTC price reference within the context of their post and they are just spouting out random BTC price references?

Sure we could have some proposals regarding what to use as our thread BTC price reference (or have more than one BTC price reference (like we had the three for a period in the past).. although there is something nice about having one..

And, in spite of a bit of whining from some members about the purchase of Bitstamp by Robinhood, I still don't see any actual way that Bitstamp is yet broken merely because they were bought.  The criticisms of Bitstamp regarding who bought them surely are not invalid concerns, especially since we know how various entities can be manipulative (which Robinhood has already shown some of its colors in the direction of fucking around with clients and showing favoritism. at least that is what it seems they did).

I recall a few years ago that some of us were concerned because Bitstamp had been sold from European ownership to some Korean ownership.. but then apparently the Korean owner died recently which might have been part of the motivation that Bitstamp had ended up recently getting acquired by Robinhood..

And, in any event, there likely is some desire from active members in this thread to have some kind of a representative exchange and/or price reference location that we use in these here parts... .. and again Bitstamp is not yet broken as a BTC price reference (no evidence of that, yet).... so I am having some difficulties understanding why we would just change it without some level of consensus or signs of some kind of a need for such change (such as Bitstamp being broken)... Change for the mere sake of change, without any actual evidence of an actual problem, just out of preemptive fears?  that seems a bit much doesn't it?

Edited: a bit, for clarity and flow