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I bet more of those funds leave Kraken as BTC than fiat.
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I bet more of those funds leave Kraken as BTC than fiat.

And it will happen almost immediately.  Self custody lesson learned
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And it will happen almost immediately.  Self custody lesson learned

One would hope.
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I bet more of those funds leave Kraken as BTC than fiat.

And it will happen almost immediately.  Self custody lesson learned

I think a lot of what a person will do depends of how much btc they get.

I would think most people left  are more then five coins.

I would think Selling 10% and keeping 90% in coin will be common.

I am also not sure about tax rules.

If you had coins in feb 2014 they were worth 650 usd they are 100x at 65,000

having 5 coins means 3250 is now 325,000. I am not sure if you could be taxed in full at a cost basis of 3250

usa law at the moment would mean 20% or 60-65k in tax.

I dont have mount gox coins. so not a worry for me.

But if I did get five coins and thought I may owe 65k in tax. I am selling 100k of 325k and paying the 65k asap.

this would give me 35k cash and 225k in btc or 3.46 btc.

So I suspect savvy USA people are going to sell at least 20% and pay capital gains on the whole 5 coins.

But what do I know.
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Actually, it was the judge who did.

“I have no doubt that I should not order Dr. Wright to publish the half-page notice in the Times. That does appear to be a somewhat vindictive response to his half-page publication of his offer,” wrote Justice Mellor.

Mellor did order that Dr. Wright host a notice of the judgment on his own website (for six months) and on his Twitter feed and Slack channels (for three months).


I was going to say lawyers as well but maybe it was an order from the judge?

Regardless, unless I missed it somewhere, I think a more sincere apology or admission of guilt comes with a video with him saying and explaining it, but really the dude had many times to come clean before the courts did anything, so it would be hard for me to accept it anyway unless he really had come off as sincere in the admission.

I suddenly have a newfound respect for the English justice system.
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Actually, it was the judge who did.

“I have no doubt that I should not order Dr. Wright to publish the half-page notice in the Times. That does appear to be a somewhat vindictive response to his half-page publication of his offer,” wrote Justice Mellor.

Mellor did order that Dr. Wright host a notice of the judgment on his own website (for six months) and on his Twitter feed and Slack channels (for three months).


I was going to say lawyers as well but maybe it was an order from the judge?

Regardless, unless I missed it somewhere, I think a more sincere apology or admission of guilt comes with a video with him saying and explaining it, but really the dude had many times to come clean before the courts did anything, so it would be hard for me to accept it anyway unless he really had come off as sincere in the admission.

I suddenly have a newfound respect for the English justice system.

Slow and steady they drilled him nicely.
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hmm we got,over, 66k

down a bit now.
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I bet more of those funds leave Kraken as BTC than fiat.
And it will happen almost immediately.  Self custody lesson learned
I think a lot of what a person will do depends of how much btc they get.

I would think most people left  are more then five coins.

I would think Selling 10% and keeping 90% in coin will be common.

I am also not sure about tax rules.

If you had coins in feb 2014 they were worth 650 usd they are 100x at 65,000

having 5 coins means 3250 is now 325,000. I am not sure if you could be taxed in full at a cost basis of 3250

usa law at the moment would mean 20% or 60-65k in tax.

I dont have mount gox coins. so not a worry for me.

But if I did get five coins and thought I may owe 65k in tax. I am selling 100k of 325k and paying the 65k asap.

this would give me 35k cash and 225k in btc or 3.46 btc.

So I suspect savvy USA people are going to sell at least 20% and pay capital gains on the whole 5 coins.

But what do I know.

Yes.  What do you know?

It seems important to note that GOX creditors are not going to be getting taxed anything if they are choosing to not sell any of their received coins.  

The receipt of the coins does not trigger a taxable event.  These are not mined coins.. they are likely previously purchased coins... and a fraction of their original stash (perhaps around 15%)

I know that frequently you are coming up with solutions that involve the selling of coins, but real bitcoin HODLers are not necessarily jumping straight into considering how much fiat that they can get for their cornz.. Getting an immediate fiat payoff may well not be the first thought that comes to the mind of a "true" coiner.

By the way if a GOX customer receives around 5 BTC, that may well would have meant that his quantity of BTC would have had been around 33 BTC at the time of the bankruptcy filing.. that is assuming around a payout of around 15% of his earlier GOX balance.

So yes the receipt of 5 BTC and 5 Bcash may well result in the selling of Bcash, and perhaps buying BTC with that money or maybe just completely cashing out of his Bcash stash.. which currently 5 BCash would be valued just under $2k.  Does he buy BTC with that Bcash money or just decide to use the cash? or some combination?

If such a person with around 5 BTC credit from GOX, then perhaps over the years, that person would have had also replaced his 33-ish BTC, so maybe such a person still holds around 33 BTC outside of GOX, so his receipt of a GOX payout increases his BTC stash from 33-ish to 38-ish.  Perhaps? perhaps?

38-ish BTC would not be a bad sized total stash, and surely the GOX coin recipient might consider his receipt of the 5 BTC as a reason to start some kind of a sustainable withdrawal system, even something aggressive like 10% would result in an ability to begin to cash out around 0.275 BTC per month ($17,875 at current prices).. . which is around 3.3 BTC per year...and so yeah, if someone does not need to withdraw that much, he could withdraw less than that amount... but yeah, after around a year and a half, someone withdrawing 10% per year would have had withdrawn all of his GOX coins if such a hypothetical might happen to apply to any such GOX creditor.

hmm we got,over, 66k

down a bit now.

Personally, this here cat (I) would not necessarily consider a lack of ongoing and persistent UP as being exactly down.. but, hey whatever, you are not completely inaccurate and sure it is a free world (the last time I checked), so you can say your uppities and downities however you like, since obviously, your mileage does seem to vary.
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