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September 15, 2024, 04:19:43 PM

Slowly, corm takes flight
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FUD sold corn cheaper
Green Sky the rise of hodlers
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Rate cuts incoming,
HODLERS to be rewarded,
Pumpening starts soon.


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September runs slow.
Sunday feels boring AF.
Price doesn't help much...

Picard engages,
But the ship needs more warp speed.
Beam us up, Scotty!

Saylor on TV,
Looks like Jesus incarnate,
Preaching his wisdom.

Fed rates decreasing.
Demand far exceeds supply.
Next month's Uptober!

LFC's ready.
LHC's spitting bosons.
Catburgers for lunch!

Things are looking good.
The road ain't bumpy no more.
Smooth, like Phil's driveway!

Congrats to Krubster,
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Hats off to you, sir!

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Another attempt on Trump



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Two percent of stash...
Maintaining all costs for years.
He's living the dream.


I will proclaim that even if every two years Krubster or anyone else were to be cashing out 2% or even up to 10% of their BTC stash, the value of their BTC stash is quite likely going to be growing faster than the amount that they are cash out, even though strict 2-year schedules would likely end up being a wee bit awkward in regards to selling BTC since there will likely continue to be some uncomfortable dips that might occur during uncomfortable times (causing desires to not sell during such dips, while at the same time trying to figure out some kind of a practical work around) yet I still would consider that the overall dollar value amount of BTC cashed out would still be tending to be going up as long as the cashing out was not happening at bottoms (and yeah none of us can really proclaim to have great insight into exact tops and bottoms in any kind of precise way).  Furthermore the cost of living (or standard of living) is likely going to be ongooingly going up with the passage of time too, so we likely have to project that our costs are likely going up quite a bit more than the stated inflation rate.

I cannot really proclaim to know specifics of Krubster's situation, so I am kind of guessing some kind of a cashing out scenario, and in some sense, it seems likely that @OgNasty could claim some credit for an anecdotal example of Krubster being a GOX sale, whether Krubster admits being such a case or not.  Accordingly, it seems to me that Krubster is suggesting that he had gotten a decent GOX pay-out which truly on the margins could have had contributed motivation in regards to his current timing to sell some cornz (in the ballpark of 2%) during these times.

I tried to project out some kind of a potentially reasonable cashing out scenario on paper that might regard any BTC HODLer guy who might have had largely got into BTC with most of his stash around $10 in 2012, and then suggesting living off of his stash since 2017.. so yeah, I know that I am going to be quite a bit off with the specifics of Krubster's exact scenario, yet some similarly situated HODLer/Accumulator's scenario might go something like this with a starting out stash of around 320 BTC (which leaves around 246 BTC after this month's cashing out).

Something like this:

Date   BTC Price                  Buy Amount      BTCbuyAmt             BTC balance      $ValueHoldings      %BTCSellamt   BTCSellamt   soldValue   soldTotal
10/15/12   $10.00                   $3,200.00         320.00000000          320.00000000   $3,200.00               
11/2/17   $7,000.00                                                                       297.60000000   $2,083,200.00       7.00%   22.40000000   $156,800.00   $156,800.00
6/20/19   $9,500.00                                                                       275.20000000   $2,614,400.00       6.00%   17.85600000   $169,632.00   $326,432.00
2/20/21   $56,000.00                                                                     257.34400000   $14,411,264.00      2.00%   5.50400000   $308,224.00   $634,656.00
3/20/22   $42,000.00                                                                     251.84000000   $10,577,280.00      2.00%   5.14688000   $216,168.96   $850,824.96
9/12/24   $56,000.00                                                                     246.69312000   $13,814,814.72      2.00%   5.03680000   $282,060.80   $1,132,885.76
9/12/26   $80,000.00                                                                     241.65632000   $19,332,505.60      2.00%   4.93386240   $394,708.99   $1,527,594.75

Yeah.. the format of the table does not look the greatest, but still, you get the idea that it seems that less and less BTC would be generating more and more dollar value, and surely the last row is a bit of a projection for 2 years down the road, yet there would be no reason to stick with a strict timeline but instead a bit of a ballpark idea.  Even from this projection there might have ended up being some anticipation with the March 2022 withdrawal.. and surely guys who are still selling and living off of their BTC stash may well end up making BIG mistakes and still be able to do o.k. with bitcoin value continuing to grow throughout a mostly holding period that results in various sustainable withdrawals along the way.. even though I still proclaim that 2% over 2 years is way too conservative, yet I am also guilty of similar levels of failure/refusal to cash out enough BTC, and largely living off of my other income, even though Krubster seems to be implying that BTC is most of his income...so yeah, maybe I ended up fucking up my description of how something like a 2% withdrawal rate for 2 years income might play out.

Fred Krueger thinks that most people (especially those with zero) should aim at 1 btc accumulation in the next 5 years:
I think he is right on his assumption. I have been trying this since 2021. Hopefully I'll be able to achieve this soon.

I forgot to mention that I don't really like the 1 BTC idea, even though I like the idea of trying to get as much bitcoin as you are able to get as soon as you can, I guess I just get a bit bothered by focusing on unit bias. .since some folks won't be able to get 1 BTC and others will be able to accumulate more than 1 BTC.. yet, I have to concede that Krueger response of 1 BTC was specifically responding to the question that was asked.

Another attempt on Trump
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Detailed video or it did not happen.

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In my last post, I had forgotten to mention something about an overvalued shitcoin, and yeah, we are not talking about or focusing on shitcoins in this thread, yet surely a bit of denigration from time to time might not hurt, and so I had forgo to mention that at least one of the positive angles of our recent failure to pump is that shitcoin ethereum is having some decently good lows against bitcoin, and surely reaching BTC pair lows that have not been reached for the past three years, and surely part of the phenomena is likely related to their being an absolute shitty product, and another aspect likely relates to their worsening their product by moving it to proof of stake.. those dumb fucktwats... but they deserve whatever dumping that they are getting in that overly priced piece of shit.. which really should be valued in the less than 0.02 BTC territories rather than their current 0.039 BTC territories.. but hey whatever, there are ethereum shitcoin believers and even decent money to pump that piece of shit.. so surely there could be some short term dead cat bounces, and I would not even be so dumb to either bet against it or to short it since we know that shitcoins can pump beyond any reasonableness.. which seems to be ethereum's lifetime story... hopefully no one is to enraged by my mentioning that smoke & mirrors house of cards that is designed to take your money and also to allow the creation and/or pumping of other shitcoins.
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A thought occured:
Michael Saylor likes to present his path since 2020 like a "best strategy' ever, however, here are the reasons 'regular folks' could not aor even should not try to emulate:
1. He did in using a corporation where is largely not personally responsible.
2. He was able to get interest rates as low as 1% on his loans. additionally, his loans did not seem to have had a callback on low vlue feature OR he (MSTR) would have been bankrupt in 2022 when almost ALL their equity was decimated by a btc value plunge.
3. He initially bought just as a bull market burst forward in 2020.

What I am trying to say is the following: imho, it would inadvisable to get a large % interest rate loan (personal or cc) to buy bitcoin at this juncture.
If you have a cash flow that you can use, that's a whole other story.
Example:I might get an additional cash flow steam by next summer and plan to use it mostly for DCAing more into btc.
So far, my btc "number" has been on a gradually declining trend and I would like to reverse that.
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Dark Forest IRL, damn...

Bitcoin puzzle #66 solved: 6.6 BTC, but...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg64526037#msg64526037
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It'll be $58k again by tomorrow...

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Another attempt on Trump

Attempt or staged publicity stunt?

I don’t think the right is staging attacks with guns. That would be counter to their beliefs. It makes far more sense for the left to do it and for real. At least to me. Luckily the secret service was on top of it this time. I don’t think they want any more egg on their face. Nevertheless, I’ll be voting for the guy they keep trying to kill.
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