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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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....... humans must whine about something...

Referring to yourself in the third person, yet with a descriptive undertone..

I got a chuckle out of that.

$110k is just a threshold that loosely and indirectly relates to my "fuck-you" lever. And it also kind of cements the 6-digit order of magnitude (which, again, doesn't really mean anything).

1) I don't want to beat a dead horse, but spot price reliance on fuck you lever seems quite problematic from my perspective.. even though I don't have any problem with the idea of price-based (meaning uppity threshold) and/or time-based withdrawal points.. yet this particular focusing around $110k seems to be a kind of price-based, as if you were to have an order (let's say 1% of your stash) waiting to be cashed out there, but that seems contrary to what I would presume for your to consider any kind of a place to shave off some cornz....

2) getting a bit of a distance between $100k seems reasonable, but 10% hardly seems reasonable in terms of counting on anything... maybe 25% to 35% above it, or maybe I am asking too much?  how did $1,100 work out in regards to $1k?  We did not stay there very long.   How did $11k work out in regards to $10k?  Same thing.. It was not much of a thing.

Sure it is better to be going up rather than down, and I truly have been speculating that our last 10-ish days since we first crossed over $100k (seems like longer, right?), we have just been spending time preparing to punish the fuck out of the so many folks selling at or around $100k who have not yet bought back... so why would the punishment stop at $110k?  Or why would $110k have much if any meaning?   

Sure, I have little to no idea what is going to happen.. but I would not be surprised to see $125k to $135k without any kind of a meaningful correction..  Admittedly, sometimes it takes time to go up or down or to figure out which way we are going, yet in the end, I'm going to be surprised if there were any meaningful correction in these here parts, and $110k seems almost the same as $95k to me.. and yeah, maybe it is all in my head, since we know that many times minority scenarios end up playing out.

$1M is the same. What's wrong with $900k? Or $1.1M? Human psychology... Just look at ChartBuddy when price is close to those nice, round, decimal numbers...

People do love round numbers, and historically in bitcoin those round number loving folks have tended to get screwed when they sold too many bitcoin at such round numbers... but yeah, in regards to $10k, we did end up coming back to that one quite a bit between January 2018 and all the way up to October 2020.

As for price I am making decent money with my small hosted mine.
about 100 usd a day and cost is 37 usd in power so I net 63 dollars of btc a day.

Recently, I bought a Bitaxe, just for shits and giggles since I had heard several places that they were like plug and play, so you could learn about mining, and my Bitaxe has only been running for slightly longer than 1 day.. and I am not really sure what all of the various indicators on the miner mean..   




There might be a better thread to discuss this kind of a topic, but my reason to have had bought the Bitaxe is to just kind of get to know some more aspects of bitcoin (other angles)..   and yeah, the Bitaxe was about $200, and it was pretty much plug and play. 

It already had AxeOs software interface.  After removing the Bitaxe from the box, I plugged it into power, and then I entered the IP address into a webbrowser then that gave me the default settings so that I could change the Bitaxe settings so that it would be logged into my wifi.. so then once the Bitaxe was logged into my wifi, then the small display on the Bitaxe gave me a new IP Address so that I log that new address into my browser (so long as the device is on the same wifi), then I could see details about how the Bitaxe was running and also to customize some of the inputs, such as putting my own BTC address into it.

So I suppose that it depends on which pool in regards to payout rules, and yeah, I would not expect much payout, and I am not sure if I can change the pool.  My current pool seems to be public-pool.io

I was thinking that maybe I could buy a Bitmain Antminer S21.  They are anywhere between $4k and $6k through Amazon, and they would be like 25-50x more powerful than my Bitaxe.. but in terms of sourcing maybe it would be better to buy from somewhere other than Amazon.. and maybe even pay with bitcoin?

I wonder if the S21s were very difficult to set up?  I would not mind trying to mine on Ocean mining, even though maybe any of the miners come with some default set ups, yet I cannot imagine them to be as easy to set up as the Bitaxe was.. even though no bitcoins have come to my wallet address through the Bitaxe, yet.   

In regards to the S21, I see that they need to be 220V, and I do have some 220V already in the house (for the stove) and two outlets in my garage (for welders), but maybe I might want to have an electrician come over and put a 220 Volt outlet into my basement in order that I could plug such S21 miner into that and to have it in the basement (a bit cooler down there - naturally), if I were to get such a miner.

I am not looking into any of this in regards to the money, and surely I would not be mining any shitcoins, unless I were to conjecture that such shitcoin(s) were to become the new bitcoin, which I cannot see that happening any time soon. 

Sure, I would like whatever miner I run to be profitable, at least in the beginning, but I am not overly obsessed with profits, even though it would be nice for it to pay for whatever electricity it uses.  My main goal is just to tinker to just be able to attempt to learn a bit about mining and in some kind of an outside way to support the network if there might be shenanigans going on in regards to some of the larger pools and the way that they are paying out miners with averages and not specific rewards (so I had heard a few interviews with Bitcoin Mechanic in regards to how Ocean is more individualistic in terms of its payouts).. even though I am not planning to expand mining beyond perhaps the Bitaxe that I already have and potentially buy an S21.. just to dip a toe in and to get familiar with running a miner.... I would imagine that most miners are going to have some default software, but maybe after I buy the S21 and it is set up then I can start direct the hashing towards Ocean's pool.  I suppose guys have ideas on this or maybe I need to go to one of the mining threads... as you can see that I am fairly early in my thoughts about this...just kind of cool seeing the Bitaxe running so easily, so I am thinking that it could not be that more difficult to set up one miner in my basement.
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....... humans must whine about something...

Referring to yourself in the third person, yet with a descriptive undertone..

I got a chuckle out of that.

$110k is just a threshold that loosely and indirectly relates to my "fuck-you" lever. And it also kind of cements the 6-digit order of magnitude (which, again, doesn't really mean anything).

1) I don't want to beat a dead horse, but spot price reliance on fuck you lever seems quite problematic from my perspective.. even though I don't have any problem with the idea of price-based (meaning uppity threshold) and/or time-based withdrawal points.. yet this particular focusing around $110k seems to be a kind of price-based, as if you were to have an order (let's say 1% of your stash) waiting to be cashed out there, but that seems contrary to what I would presume for your to consider any kind of a place to shave off some cornz....

2) getting a bit of a distance between $100k seems reasonable, but 10% hardly seems reasonable in terms of counting on anything... maybe 25% to 35% above it, or maybe I am asking too much?  how did $1,100 work out in regards to $1k?  We did not stay there very long.   How did $11k work out in regards to $10k?  Same thing.. It was not much of a thing.

Sure it is better to be going up rather than down, and I truly have been speculating that our last 10-ish days since we first crossed over $100k (seems like longer, right?), we have just been spending time preparing to punish the fuck out of the so many folks selling at or around $100k who have not yet bought back... so why would the punishment stop at $110k?  Or why would $110k have much if any meaning?   

Sure, I have little to no idea what is going to happen.. but I would not be surprised to see $125k to $135k without any kind of a meaningful correction..  Admittedly, sometimes it takes time to go up or down or to figure out which way we are going, yet in the end, I'm going to be surprised if there were any meaningful correction in these here parts, and $110k seems almost the same as $95k to me.. and yeah, maybe it is all in my head, since we know that many times minority scenarios end up playing out.

$1M is the same. What's wrong with $900k? Or $1.1M? Human psychology... Just look at ChartBuddy when price is close to those nice, round, decimal numbers...

People do love round numbers, and historically in bitcoin those round number loving folks have tended to get screwed when they sold too many bitcoin at such round numbers... but yeah, in regards to $10k, we did end up coming back to that one quite a bit between January 2018 and all the way up to October 2020.

As for price I am making decent money with my small hosted mine.
about 100 usd a day and cost is 37 usd in power so I net 63 dollars of btc a day.

Recently, I bought a Bitaxe, just for shits and giggles since I had heard several places that they were like plug and play, so you could learn about mining, and my Bitaxe has only been running for slightly longer than 1 day.. and I am not really sure what all of the various indicators on the miner mean..   




There might be a better thread to discuss this kind of a topic, but my reason to have had bought the Bitaxe is to just kind of get to know some more aspects of bitcoin (other angles)..   and yeah, the Bitaxe was about $200, and it was pretty much plug and play. 

It already had AxeOs software interface.  After removing the Bitaxe from the box, I plugged it into power, and then I entered the IP address into a webbrowser then that gave me the default settings so that I could change the Bitaxe settings so that it would be logged into my wifi.. so then once the Bitaxe was logged into my wifi, then the small display on the Bitaxe gave me a new IP Address so that I log that new address into my browser (so long as the device is on the same wifi), then I could see details about how the Bitaxe was running and also to customize some of the inputs, such as putting my own BTC address into it.

So I suppose that it depends on which pool in regards to payout rules, and yeah, I would not expect much payout, and I am not sure if I can change the pool.  My current pool seems to be public-pool.io

I was thinking that maybe I could buy a Bitmain Antminer S21.  They are anywhere between $4k and $6k through Amazon, and they would be like 25-50x more powerful than my Bitaxe.. but in terms of sourcing maybe it would be better to buy from somewhere other than Amazon.. and maybe even pay with bitcoin?

I wonder if the S21s were very difficult to set up?  I would not mind trying to mine on Ocean mining, even though maybe any of the miners come with some default set ups, yet I cannot imagine them to be as easy to set up as the Bitaxe was.. even though no bitcoins have come to my wallet address through the Bitaxe, yet.   

In regards to the S21, I see that they need to be 220V, and I do have some 220V already in the house (for the stove) and two outlets in my garage (for welders), but maybe I might want to have an electrician come over and put a 220 Volt outlet into my basement in order that I could plug such S21 miner into that and to have it in the basement (a bit cooler down there - naturally), if I were to get such a miner.

I am not looking into any of this in regards to the money, and surely I would not be mining any shitcoins, unless I were to conjecture that such shitcoin(s) were to become the new bitcoin, which I cannot see that happening any time soon. 

Sure, I would like whatever miner I run to be profitable, at least in the beginning, but I am not overly obsessed with profits, even though it would be nice for it to pay for whatever electricity it uses.  My main goal is just to tinker to just be able to attempt to learn a bit about mining and in some kind of an outside way to support the network if there might be shenanigans going on in regards to some of the larger pools and the way that they are paying out miners with averages and not specific rewards (so I had heard a few interviews with Bitcoin Mechanic in regards to how Ocean is more individualistic in terms of its payouts).. even though I am not planning to expand mining beyond perhaps the Bitaxe that I already have and potentially buy an S21.. just to dip a toe in and to get familiar with running a miner.... I would imagine that most miners are going to have some default software, but maybe after I buy the S21 and it is set up then I can start direct the hashing towards Ocean's pool.  I suppose guys have ideas on this or maybe I need to go to one of the mining threads... as you can see that I am fairly early in my thoughts about this...just kind of cool seeing the Bitaxe running so easily, so I am thinking that it could not be that more difficult to set up one miner in my basement.

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For 2025 I see two strong positive possibilities (among others):

1. If they announce SBR (strategic bitcoin reserve) in US, the only way they can accumulate bitcoin fast enough (and not overpay) would be to announce that if you send your bitcoin to SBR, all your cap gains are tax free. Of course, they could say that you also need to have it for one year or more, which could be just fine.

2. They could make bitcoin a permissible subject of a 1031 exchange. Before (in 2017), they specifically excluded it, but if that law would be amended, it would be another positive step for the price. 1031 exchange right now could only be done with real estate. This is basically a rule that you can "exchange" one RE property for another. Cap gains then are considered to be "transferred" to a new property. Before 2017 many types of property exchange were allowed, but the only remaining now is RE.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/section1031.asp
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ftfy...and it's not even Sunday
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For 2025 I see two strong positive possibilities (among others):

1. If they announce SBR (strategic bitcoin reserve) in US, the only way they can accumulate bitcoin fast enough (and not overpay) would be to announce that if you send your bitcoin to SBR, all your cap gains are tax free. Of course, they could say that you also need to have it for one year or more, which could be just fine.

2. They could make bitcoin a permissible subject of a 1031 exchange. Before (in 2017), they specifically excluded it, but if that law would be amended, it would be another positive step for price. 1031 exchange right now could only be done with real estate. This is basically a rule that you can "exchange" one RE property for another. Cap gains then considered to be "transferred" to a new property. Before 2017 many types of property exchange were allowed, but the only remained now is RE.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/section1031.asp

number 2 is why I don't like trump yet, maybe he knocks that shit rule off as it sucks.
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We are at 2T market cap.

When Bitcoin market Cap reaches $18T it will be $900K Per Coin.



real estate is bubble, why the marketcap is so big.

ten years ago people are not sure that the price of bitcoin will reach $100k, and now many are not sure that the price of bitcoin will reach $1 million in the next 10 years, bitcoin will definitely pass the gold market cap as a first step.
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I was thinking that maybe I could buy a Bitmain Antminer S21.  They are anywhere between $4k and $6k through Amazon, and they would be like 25-50x more powerful than my Bitaxe.. but in terms of sourcing maybe it would be better to buy from somewhere other than Amazon.. and maybe even pay with bitcoin?

I wonder if the S21s were very difficult to set up?  

Not difficult at all, but they emit soul-crashing noise, which is probably not a problem in an isolated basement that has an AC or a vent that has a 200V outlet (or two).

It also needs some 'serious' and somewhat expensive cables-Phil probably already told you. If the cables you use are not 'enough', they could get on fire, so this is a critical point.

Sorry, it makes little sense to pay for S21 with bitcoin, imho, unless you immediately replace it (by buying an equivalent amount of bitcoin for $$) as the miner is unlikely to mine an amount of bitcoin you bought it for. How come? Because miner prices are high during the bull market and bitcoin prices (in $) seem to increase as the bull continues.

So, ideally, you effectively pay with $$, then you mine bitcoin that exceeds the monetary value (in $$) you paid for it. You will also have a remainder miner value in a couple of years.


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I was thinking that maybe I could buy a Bitmain Antminer S21.  They are anywhere between $4k and $6k through Amazon, and they would be like 25-50x more powerful than my Bitaxe.. but in terms of sourcing maybe it would be better to buy from somewhere other than Amazon.. and maybe even pay with bitcoin?

I wonder if the S21s were very difficult to set up?  

Not difficult at all, but they emit soul-crashing noise, which is probably not a problem in an isolated basement that has an AC or a vent that has a 200V outlet (or two).

It also needs some 'serious' and somewhat expensive cables-Phil probably told you. If the cables you use are not 'enough', they could get on fire, so this is a critical point.

Sorry, it makes little sense to pay for S21 with bitcoin, imho, unless you immediately replace it (buy buying an equivalent amount of bitcoin for $$) as the miner is unlikely to mine a amount of bitcoin you bought it for. How come? Because miner prices are high during the bull market and bitcoin prices (in $ seem to increase).

So, ideally, you effectively pay with $$, then you mine bitcoin that exceeds the monetary value (in $$) you paid for it. You will also have a remainder miner value in a couple of years.




if he can stand the noise, has proper 220 volt

this is better.

https://altairtech.io/product/bitmain-antminer-t21-transformer/


3500 not sure they will take a cc from a new guy. but I got mine with a cc


if he does not rewire  uses 120 volt

he can get this

https://altairtech.io/product/bitchimney/

the higher end 1999 model does  40 or 53th based on 1 s21 hash board


I am white listed to use my cc up to 10k or maybe 5k don't remember.

It's why I use fiat to talk mining profits. not btc.

I paid the power with a cc
I paid the miner with a cc
I mine and hodl.
I held from last year til the nov run up.

I ladder up sold to 101k and now am lock in for gear and power til august 2025..
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Tsk tsk someone's glands are itching I bet. Sorry, I've been provoked.

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Enough haikus for now. It's not even Sunday.

The Muse strikes when she strikes!

Out of respect for your tired haiku gland, I didn't turn this statement into a precious gem of short poetry Wink

fuck that shit, haiku!
haiku on any day you want
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I wonder if the drones are just a bunch of bitcoiners with early versions of the XPENG X2's?  *shrug* Smiley
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Cats like me don't know why but they do.

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 Probably you have squinty eyes.  Cats do that as a sign of trust and affection.... or due to a blocked nasolacrimal duct.  You never can tell with cats; best not to get too close.
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Haiku to the max
Whip haiku's ass with a belt
Its good poetry.

Count the syllables
Make sure they fit the format
Try not to fuck up.

I like my haikus
I like my haikus. I like
My haikus, haikus.

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I wonder if the drones are just a bunch of bitcoiners with early versions of the XPENG X2's?  *shrug* Smiley
https://youtu.be/VcdPyzCgkZk?si=x_U2kRonWaUTqD0r&t=131





ebay sells a crop dusting drone 10 foot by 10 foot it has 110pound  payload for 22k


https://www.ebay.com/itm/266813707347?



https://www.ebay.com/itm/165970208080?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/167133732304?


I think it is one of the 20,000 dollar ones on ebay
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...squinty eyes.  Cats do that as a sign of trust and affection...

Don't ever stare at a cat or even look it straight in the eye. That's obviously a sign of aggression and hostility.

Always almost close your eyes and make little churring sounds and you'll have a friend for life.
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