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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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partially OT: other markets

A pretty good explanation for "bear steepening" in bonds, which also explains the recent stock decline:
https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/a-bond-selloff-is-rocking-the-world-you-might-want-to-take-the-other-side-ab1356c3
(not sure if it would be behind the paywall or not, but it wasn't for me)
It was for me but not for long:
https://archive.ph/SLuZV

Some financial institutions and even registered investment advisors do not have a lot of flexibility in what kinds of allocations that they can make and/or if they might have to reallocate from their shitty assets (investments) such as bonds, so then anyone able to buy bitcoin or to get exposure to bitcoin, even  including some of them can potentially squeeze something like bonds in their portfolio through buying MSTR bonds, yet in any event, most traditional (safe or dollar based bonds) have been getting their lunch eaten for a couple of years, including a kind of cascading effect in regards to if some people get out, then it might be worse for those who are sticking with bonds or not finding a way to get out of bonds.

Many of us bitcoiners have way more flexibility in regards to what we do, what we get into and not being required to reallocate from our winners (something like bitcoin) and back into our losers (something like bonds).

Another kind of ironic thing that many of us bitcoiners have likely been witnessing for years is that financial advisors tend to either not recommend bitcoin or they recommend towards products that they have available (ETFs coming available to some of them), so frequently they would not recommend bitcoin or anything related to bitcoin and they would also recommend reallocating within the same kinds of restrictions that they have - otherwise we end up way outperforming them when we are both allowed to invest into bitcoin but to keep our investment in bitcoin when it is shown as a winner and we are finding out that their various restrictions are seeming to purposefully hamper their performance while trying to prop up the dollar.

Some of us have known these dynamics for a while, yet so many are finding ways to get exposure to bitcoin and some are also learning that they might not want to reallocate out of bitcoin when it is shown to be a winner - even though these kinds of changes are not happening rapidly, including that many RIAs and even pensions and 401ks are still not even offering bitcoin related products, such as spot BTC ETFs, and so I doubt that bonds are going to be doing very well for a while especially if they are cash based bonds, unless maybe they have some kind of a bitcoin component within them.

Well if my belief that the powers to be will melt the ice. By 2100 -2125 a shit ton of people will die.
Maybe a few billions.

I don’t think everyone will die.
Since I date back to a time when the world had under 3 billions I can assure you the world can work with 2 or 3. billions vs 8 billions.

As to what you can do to protect yourself and loved ones I don’t know what to say. For me and my wife thats my list of loved ones. I likely will bet that we die of old age before 2055. I would be 98 and she would be 99.

Kind of sucks to think this way but its what I got.
Well if world can work with 3 billion then it can work with even 1 billion or less. Human life started with Adam and Eve (I don't know about other religions but that's what we Muslims believe), everyone came after that.
I have wife, kids, sisters and few more in my list of loved ones and I fear what my kids will find on this planet once they grow up

I imagine that this here planet can probably work with 30 billion or more, too, so I doubt that the fear of people and consumption is as perilous as many folks seem to make it out to be... but what do I know?  I am largely guessing.
The problem that is affecting most investors in Bitcoin is that they rely so much on financial advisor that may not give them good analysis of the investment without making more research by themselve and this financial advisor may likely not give them a good investment strategy that wil enhance there knowledge in Bitcoin in other to maximize there profit.
Although the role of financial advisor cannot be undermined in any successful investment, there is need to consult a financial advisor but sometimes some financial advisor may not give you the actual orientation you need to succeed in the business, some will only recommend products base on their perception about the product  which may be to the detriment of the investor, so to be at the safer side there is need to develop your skill and carryout personal research about the line of investment you wish to make in order to get the indepth knowledge of the products.
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I imagine that this here planet can probably work with 30 billion or more, too, so I doubt that the fear of people and consumption is as perilous as many folks seem to make it out to be... but what do I know?  I am largely guessing.

With 8 billion population, we already have genetically modified (GM) crops and farmed animals like poultry (that grow up faster as compared to organic chicken) to feed the people. With 30 billion, our scientists are capable of figuring out ways about how to feed them. So yes we can even live with 30 billion.
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Meta Shareholders Call for Bitcoin Reserve to Combat Inflation.

Meta shareholders urge adopting Bitcoin as a reserve to counter inflation, citing cash devaluation and Bitcoin's superior long-term performance.

Meta shareholders are asking for the company to establish a Bitcoin reserve in an effort to fight inflation.

Ethan Peck, a Meta shareholder, called for a formal evaluation of the company's financial strategy, after expressing concerns about its cash holdings being devalued.

"Since cash is consistently being debased and bond yields are lower than the true inflation rate, 28% of Meta's total assets are consistently diminishing shareholder value by sitting on the balance sheet," Peck wrote in an assessment.


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Peck is also an employee at The National Center for Public Policy Research (NCPR) - the same organization that pushed Microsoft and Amazon to adopt Bitcoin in their reserves.
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Bitcoin Explained in under 2:59 minutes.

Especially for people who are just starting their journey with bitcoin.

Hello Bitcoiners , how do you feel? For Beginners.
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Naming your channel "Bitcointalk" is not going to make you any friends in this here part of the woods Fucker.


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to help me, i regret.

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Now that you changed the channels name I actually watched you vid and was pleasantly surprised you did an excellent job.

But don't ever assume you can come in here assume the mantle and speak for those that came before you, that is beyond arrogant..
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You are Legendary well before you attain this rank. This legendary journey had mythic proportions.

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EDIT: Launch Cancelled
Launch has been delayed for about 70 minutes total so far, going as far as T- 10 mintutes.  The current final countdown is T-20 minutes till launch of New Glenn-1

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They might attempt to land the booster named, “So You’re Telling Me There’s a Chance.”, on a barge in the Atlantic.
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EDIT: Launch Cancelled
Launch has been delayed for about 70 minutes total so far, going as far as T- 10 mintutes.  The current final countdown is T-20 minutes till launch of New Glenn-1

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https://youtu.be/OOEPTWQrN7A

They might attempt to land the booster named, “So You’re Telling Me There’s a Chance.”, on a barge in the Atlantic.

I learned this week-end that there is a French startup trying to launch a rocket called "Orbital Baguette 1" or OB1 for short :d
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HOLDING BITCOIN


Cited for visability.

Sure.. Could be.

Let’s clear out the last remaining weak hands before price discovery and new all time highs.
@mistercrypto
Bitcoin is making a textbook triple bottom price pattern now.

I'm buying the dip.
https://x.com/misterrcrypto/status/1878417392839131482

I hate to be a doom and gloomer (or a party poop), and sure we are not in 2018 no more (and we seem to be inclined up rather than down, even though not easy to know in advance), but bitcoin did not break below $6k until after it had tested the $6k bottom around 6 times, so multiple times testing the bottom does not mean that it won't end up breaking to the downity.. and in the 2018 case, bitcoin prices largely stayed in the $3,200 to $4,200 price range for about 4 months prior to largely breaking back above $4,200 and returning to mostly supra $6k prices.

Agree. But 2018 was the beginning of the bear market. Are you considering /imagine 2025 more as a bear or bull year then?
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