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That was a shocking amount of BTC being dumped at $117,500.  The market seemed to absorb it and is holding up ok, someone sold a massive amount though for sure.  That's the largest volume spike we've seen in months, so that leads me to believe we might be near a new bottom here.  With this week being sure to be full of announcements, I think it might be a bit early to count this rally down for now.  It does seem to be taking a breather though.  We'll see how Europe responds when they wake up in a few hours.
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WO Cheers!

Bitcoin hits new highs, gains stability and scale in its institutional era: Will it last?


Nope.  (lol)
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Maybe the very fact that banks would be allowed to custody bitcoin caused some OGs to sell?
After all, they were not "regular people", but rather folks with strongly held "individualistic" bias.

Additionally, there will be probably accusatory speeches this week (together with positive ones, no doubt).
Sell the news a few hours before the news?

Overall, August is typically slightly bearish, followed by even more slightly bearish September, then bullish for the rest of the year.
It might play out just like that.
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For some reason there's always a small drop after he announced his buys.
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Additionally, there will be probably accusatory speeches this week (together with positive ones, no doubt).
Sell the news a few hours before the news?

Which ones could that be?

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Overall, August is typically slightly bearish, followed by even more slightly bearish September, then bullish for the rest of the year.
It might play out just like that.

Not in past cycle top years, when July and August were monthly greens, so far.
I think i posted about this some days ago, IIRC?

are we poor again?

Since Bitcoin is "not real money" and "backed by nothing", we're even constantly broke, if not in debt.  Wink
Us poor fucks...  Tongue
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top 5!!!!

Another 30% to go to take on Apple, lets go!
It is clear Apple will be surpassed
The target is to surpass NVIDIA and make it to the top 2 before the year ends Roll Eyes

Bitcoin 2x from here?  That is hardly a BIG deal, even though surely it is not guaranteed, yet folks should be able to see the writing on the wall.. and to hedge their bets accordingly.

You (Btcdeybodi) don't even have two years on the forum, so I can hardly imagine that you could be reasonably excited about uppity, even if you might have had attempted to front load your bitcoin investment in the last couple of years.

In many instances it is going to be quite difficult to really get a decently sized bitcoin stash in less than 2 years (especially in the market conditions that we have been having for the past 2.5 years-ish.. mostly just UP, UP and more UP, sure with a few pauses along the way, but still mostly up since November 2022, and you did not join the forum until November 2023, in the event that you did not start building your bitcoin prior to your forum registration date.



We have been sticking around 10x  (or bitcoin 1/10th of gold's market cap) for quite a bit of time now, but yeah, that's o.k.... either this cycle or next cycle we are likely to catch and surpass gold, and then subsequent cycles make it towards 10x larger than gold and then 100x larger than gold and then 1,000x larger than gold.. .. which maybe there might be some stability in the 1,000x larger than gold arena.  Perhaps? perhaps?

Definitely a good few days for BTC. My no coiner friends are in shambles still waiting for it to go to zero. Those who listened to me years ago are very happy

I bet the ones that listen to you are an overwhelming minority.  Perhaps less than 1 out of 4.. that would be a good conversion rate if you were to have something like 1/4 or higher.

I surmise that even the ones who got into bitcoin, they are likely "in" and then "out" and maybe having a few shitcoins on the side.. so having some trouble in regards to the likely need that many of them have to be consistent, persistent, ongoing, regular and perhaps even aggressive in their bitcoin accumulation so that they can see where they are at after a whole cycle... but will they even last a whole cycle, even if they did get "in?"   That's even a smaller minority.. maybe 1/10 at best?



Bitcoin has already surpassed in many aspects, if you know. Wink
If you are in the desert and find these two, which one will you choose? Smiley

I would choose the bottle of water.. .but yeah, of course, there is no burden with the seemingly USB device as long as I get the pin code, too.  It is surely not going to weigh me down, since that seems to be part of the point that you are making.

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by the time BTC reaches 1,150,000 Gold will very likely be over 5,000 because the dollar will shrink and if you are wealthy you will still keep gold just in case as you add some BTC.
so my guess is if btc grows to 1,150,000 and $23 trillion cap.

Gold would very likely grow to 5,000 and 33 trillion cap.
both numbers above should happen by 2032-2035

Meanwhile my mine is making some decent coin for now as I added a s21 xp
So my daily earning are rising due to expansion and due to price rise.

Hardly a justification to waste time with gold... and I frequently have suggested if you cannot resist but to own both gold and bitcoin, then you should limit your gold to no more than 10% the size of your bitcoin holdings, and even 10% is likely too large.

And yes indeed, it's just a matter of time for Bitcoin to surpass gold in terms of market cap value, because Bitcoin just rank 5th on the list of assets with the most market cap with $2.428trillion, after Apple ranking 4th on the list with a market cap value of $3.153trillion, while gold still topping the list with a market cap value of $22.674trillion. Which means all Bitcoin need to surpass Apple at the 4th place of assets with the most market cap is for the value of Bitcoin to rise to $160,000 per BTC. Whereas all what Bitcoin needs to surpass gold in market cap value is for Bitcoin to rise to a value of $1,150,000 per BTC. And such is very possible in the next 15yrs.
I also think it is very possible in the next 15 years for bitcoin to be in the number one position in asset value. Like we always say that only what is needed is time.

All I just wish right now is for bitcoin to increase above all these stocks as soon as possible.

I will grant you that even if it were to happen this cycle it would not be stable, and even the next cycle we might bounce back below number 1.


But.. 15 years?  Holy cow!!!

That is like finishing this cycle and then having 3 more cycles.   You are way too bearish about bitcoin.

Even my 200-WMA projection table shows bitcoin crossing over $1 million by the end of 2038, and remember the 200-WMA is meant to be reflecting a bottom price.

I am hoping to open the Jack today.
bitstamp did hit 123,236
just under 123,800

I did a sale at 123123
yeah oh my god how can I sell btc
I can and I do

I have a sell and a buy ladder on kraken
and yeah I know not your keys bla bla bla
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the amounts on kraken are very small
the sales are under the mines daily earnings


There is nothing wrong with keeping some portion of our stashes on various exchanges and with 3rd parties - yet hopefully the longer that we are in, the more our BTC stash grows and we may well have less than 20% of our stash on exchanges at any given time.

Ballparkedly, I think that I have something like 4% of my stack with various 3rd parties (such as exchanges)... sometimes it will change a bit.. but it has tended to gravitate downward over the the years...yet I could see if I might want to do some "BIG" sale then maybe I could move 2% or so to an exchange at a time, or maybe smaller amounts like 1% and then wait a month or two and then send another 1%, yet sure there could be circumstances that might motivate some larger sales.. Perhaps? perhaps?

Feels good to have a new ATH
But it hits different knowing you're a newbie, having a portfolio you can't be proud of yet!

Just have to keep adding cornz
That is correct.

I cannot imagine too many newbies with less than a whole bitcoin cycle who have gotten to a status of having enough or more than enough BTC, even if front loading the investment.

Sure, it is possible, but just does not seem too likely.

Now if you have been stacking for more than a whole cycle, then maybe at some point you might be able to say you have enough or more than enough.

But sure, it is up to each of us to establish how much is enough or more than enough and hopefully we do not calculate that wrong and stop stacking too early or even worse sell too much too early.


https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1944831901782474866?t=19
People are now thinking a lot about Bitcoin and are getting very excited to invest. This is where Satoshi Nakamoto success. How much trust and confidence a person has in Bitcoin can they invest with such risk? Seeing his investment plan has increased my interest in investing even more.

Careful with either trading dee cornz or using any leverage.

Bitcoin is nearly guaranteed as a great investment for an overwhelming majority of normies, as long as they have discretionary income and they act to stack sats with their discretionary income, yet leverage could change their investment into bitcoin into a loser, even when the BTC prices are going up.
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In a few months, we'll feel sad Bitcoin is down to $75k again.
Now $119k feels sad. We're getting somewhere Cheesy
I'm convinced this place is a nest of masochists.

Yeah but..


after a while up and down does not hurt very much anymore..

I mean any mostly long time bitcoiners who had largely been long in their cornz position and even half asleep (vapourminer?) has made a killing since late October 2024.. .. and even more of a killing if we go back to November 2022.. . .and even more of killing if we go back to mid 2020.. .. .etc etc.. and even if you think about it, 5 years is not really a long time for an investment, and it is quite great when the investment ends up going up 20x or so in value in a matter of 5-ish years... that is not a long time.
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Saylor on his weekly shopping spree
For some reason there's always a small drop after he announced his buys.

The saylor indicator.

I wonder though if it wasn't his buying which kept the price up, where if he hadn't it would have dropped further?
He announces when the buying stops, so that's where the dip continues.
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okay so all those little fuck around ladder up sales on kraken mean I can buy some dip.

 sweet!


and since I still have a large carry over loss no tax consequence

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