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October 29, 2025, 04:13:40 PM

 Price goes down and I’m still up

Price goes up and I’m still up.

I wish Price was a more feminine name so I could make a filthy joke   Cry
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October 29, 2025, 04:16:12 PM

Trying to lose consciousness by using LSD would need quite a massive load of Lucy

You said that before I could  Grin
Ego death with LSD doesn't happen with normal dosage.

Having had my fair share of experience with relatively normal sized doses, I'm not sure I would want to go much further.  And that was years ago. Decades really.  Lol. That stuff can really go deep.

I knew a guy who knew a chemist...  He did what is referred to as a thumbprint on a large crystal that the chemist kept.

The story was that he was tripping literally for weeks, I think.  And people say he's never been the same guy since.  It kind of changed him.

Gosh, a thumbprint? That isn't normal dosage by even the loosest standard.
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October 29, 2025, 04:26:47 PM

https://x.com/btc_archive/status/1983508007980789953?s=46

Sell low then buy high.
Vertical black, red, yellow.
It’s the German way.


I am very curious how Germany's latest decisions are going to effect the country long term.  It seems like they are actively trying to destroy their culture and way of life at every turn.  The rest of the world is trying to bring power plants online and Germany is demolishing their perfectly working nuclear plants forcing them to pay extremely high energy rates and be dependent upon Russia, who they are actively fighting in a war...  This while importing immigrants that are destroying their culture and making the country less safe for natives.  The Germans seem so intent on not being seen with their former reputation, they are going to destroy themselves for wanting to feel like they're morally better than everyone else.
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October 29, 2025, 04:37:22 PM
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So now that Gap should be filled .............. Roll Eyes
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October 29, 2025, 04:40:14 PM

Volatility is getting mercilessly squeezed out as price slowly drifts upwards.

Like the esteemed wordy bot-man says, "nothing is happening"- but "nothing" moves look material in the context of a few thousand donalds, which surely evokes an emotional response in some.

Is everyone sufficiently conditioned to dump in December or January without an explosive top?

I don't see an 80, or even a 50% pullback without significant further uppity.

Maybe the rocket returns only once absolutely everyone believes in stairs-up/elevator-down?
Even though the market is going up day by day, many people are not understanding what is happening inside Bitcoin. Even though the low volatility has decreased, the fundamental strength is increasing day by day. This is the time when weak hands think nothing is happening, while the smart money is quietly taking positions. There is nothing surprising in seeing a big movement towards December or January. For those who are in the long term, now is the best time, hold on quietly, and watch how history changes again!
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October 29, 2025, 04:43:39 PM

Price goes down and I’m still up

Price goes up and I’m still up.

I wish Price was a more feminine name so I could make a filthy joke   Cry
This is where the difference between traders and holders can be understood.

It's simple: traders chase the candles while investors stay calm.
The value of Bitcoin should be measured in trust, not dollars.
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October 29, 2025, 05:12:44 PM
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Trying to lose consciousness by using LSD would need quite a massive load of Lucy

You said that before I could  Grin
Ego death with LSD doesn't happen with normal dosage.

Having had my fair share of experience with relatively normal sized doses, I'm not sure I would want to go much further.  And that was years ago. Decades really.  Lol. That stuff can really go deep.

I knew a guy who knew a chemist...  He did what is referred to as a thumbprint on a large crystal that the chemist kept.

The story was that he was tripping literally for weeks, I think.  And people say he's never been the same guy since.  It kind of changed him.

syd barrett?
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October 29, 2025, 05:17:12 PM
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If course I can agree with someone on a specific point without automatically agreeing or disagreeing with them on all their other arguments or opinions. What the hell is wrong with you mentally that you don't understand this rather simple fact? I guess it must mean you are indeed a chosen expert/authority worshipper, unable to think for yourself.
You can support Knots and mute everything else that they are doing wrong, but you can't mute a single thing about Core and continue to support it. Classic hypocrite. I am sure you'll be first in the list of applicants for the CSAM review committee.  Roll Eyes

Keep coming out of your hiding places. I'll embed a list of people who support CSAM reviewing so that your nodes will forever store your own name. Enjoy.  Cheesy

Dude, are you a child or what?
No? Then prove it by adjusting your style of argument.
I would be ashamed as a Core programmer if i had clowns like you as advocates.
Grow the fuck up.

Trying to lose consciousness by using LSD would need quite a massive load of Lucy

You said that before I could  Grin
Ego death with LSD doesn't happen with normal dosage.

Having had my fair share of experience with relatively normal sized doses, I'm not sure I would want to go much further.  And that was years ago. Decades really.  Lol. That stuff can really go deep.

I knew a guy who knew a chemist...  He did what is referred to as a thumbprint on a large crystal that the chemist kept.

The story was that he was tripping literally for weeks, I think.  And people say he's never been the same guy since.  It kind of changed him.

Yeah, now that's some intense experience for sure.  Shocked
A collegue of mine really liked going scuba diving on Lucy, and that was after he was beyond that "kind of changed" point-of-no-return, too.
At least he made it to a kind of well known spiritual therapist in the US, so i guess he's alright but still not the same guy as back then.
He did loads of acids, i can remember that quite well and it was always nice and funny to trip with him, which i did occasionally.

Anyone of you into Amanita Muscarina?
I'm going to start experimenting with microdosing. Did one macro-dose 30 years ago and it was good but also intense. Like Shrooms but without any bad feelings.
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October 29, 2025, 05:19:26 PM
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So now that Gap should be filled .............. Roll Eyes

Yup. Looking at the leverage heat map it seems that the longs were taken out quite efficiently. Amazing how the market makers hunt these leveraged traders. Now we wait to see if we’re going to get one last leg up before the market drops back down to sub $80K. I’d personally love to sell some next month in the $130K range, so I hope we get one last buying wave.
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October 29, 2025, 05:39:30 PM

A couple of years ago I asked a similar question and there weren't many replies. I guess things have changed since then so I will ask again:

For tax reasons sometimes I do sell physical Bitcoin and buy Bitcoin ETP/ETN's. No ETF's since that is not available for us EURO guys (unless something changed lately).

Let's say this are the ones I have directly available:

Trackers (ETFs)

1- VanEck Bitcoin ETN Tradegate AG VBTC | DE000A28M8D0 | EUR

2- iShares Bitcoin ETP Tradegate AG IB1T | XS2940466316 | EUR

3- WisdomTree Bitcoin ETN Tradegate AG WBIT | GB00BJYDH287 | EUR

4- CoinShares Physical Bitcoin Tradegate AG BITC | GB00BLD4ZL17 | EUR

5- ETC Group Physical Bitcoin Tradegate AG BTCE | DE000A27Z304 | EUR

6- 21Shares Bitcoin Tradegate AG 2BTC | CH0454664001 | EUR

7- 21Shares Bitcoin Core Tradegate AG 21BC | CH1199067674 | EUR

8- Fidelity Physical Bitcoin ETP Xetra FBTC | XS2434891219 | EUR

Until now I have been making buys here and there from an almost random mix of them without much thinking.

So my question is... do you guys have a preference between those and why? Do you always buy just a certain pick or also a mix of them?

Any recomendation/suggestions?
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@peterSchiff, october 28, 2025, .... had playing his spell yesterday on the 'X', but the average of 50 in the diary remains above 114079...still., ..., I saw this spell of his by the news that haunts out there...

(#)

   I keep seeing you talking about this subject there, I've avoided talking, but I couldn't hold back, I'm sorry,... but...Some important points need to be remembered.
  
   .before taking amanitasM or Psilosybensis or similar synthetic ones, Is need to have a goal and reflect on it half an hour before ingesting, to avoid going to unwanted paths, but about 15 years ago, I was in a very distant place on a bike alone, and I saw some beautiful ammanitas, I took a little piece of the trunk and a little piece of the hat after having the goal of being very happy, and then, I got on the bike and continued, and I was on the descent, and braking, and I felt that my hand was very giant and I looked at it and it was normal, but I felt that it was very big, I felt like Mario.... That day I was afraid, but even so, I didn't stop thinking that my goal was to be happy at that moment and not for things to get out of control, having that thought, is a bridge with reality that reminds you of the moment when you were conscious.
  .psilosibensis need to be more than Seven to get you to a good state,
   .,But don't need to eat the seven, but mix them in a blender with wine and something sweet, and half a glass is enough..

   ,. > Psilocybin Reshapes Brain Networks for Weeks : "Summary: A new study reveals that psilocybin, the active compound in magic mushrooms, temporarily disrupts brain networks involved in introspective thinking, like daydreaming and memory. These changes persist for weeks, potentially making the brain more flexible and improving mental health."  

   ,.  > Neural mechanisms underlying psilocybin’s therapeutic potential – the need for preclinical in vivo electrophysiology
 
"Psilocybin is a naturally occurring psychedelic compound with profound perception-, emotion- and cognition-altering properties and great potential for treating brain disorders."

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  .  the constant consumption of LSD in general causes an immunity reaction in the receptors of the Central Nervous System, requiring increasingly larger doses to the point of no longer having an effect on the body.  it can cause side reactions such as skin rashes.,,
   .  Regardless of the size of the dose, certain people have the predisposition to go and not come back, due to some types of neurological diseases such as schizophrenia or similar, predisposed in their DNA that derives from the genetics of the ancestors, known as hereditary diseases.
   
   the right thing is not to make constant use and give breaks from month to three months at least, except for small doses to help the immune system,  Mushrooms in general are good for strengthening the brain and immune system, but psilosybensis has been shown to be better in some ways, except not consuming high doses.

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Trying to lose consciousness by using LSD would need quite a massive load of Lucy

You said that before I could  Grin
Ego death with LSD doesn't happen with normal dosage.

Having had my fair share of experience with relatively normal sized doses, I'm not sure I would want to go much further.  And that was years ago. Decades really.  Lol. That stuff can really go deep.

I knew a guy who knew a chemist...  He did what is referred to as a thumbprint on a large crystal that the chemist kept.

The story was that he was tripping literally for weeks, I think.  And people say he's never been the same guy since.  It kind of changed him.

Gosh, a thumbprint? That isn't normal dosage by even the loosest standard.


No, I believe many consider it to be the most epic dose of epic doses.  I didn't know the guy super well, and I wasn't there for any part of his experience, but I did know him before and after it. Two different dudes.  I'm not kidding when I say part of him I think just kept tripping forever.
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So now that Gap should be filled .............. Roll Eyes


... she whispered with great hope.
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A collegue of mine really liked going scuba diving on Lucy,
I would advise against that. One small mistake and bye-bye Kansas.

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Anyone of you into Amanita Muscarina?
I'm going to start experimenting with microdosing. Did one macro-dose 30 years ago and it was good but also intense. Like Shrooms but without any bad feelings.
I've tried A.muscaria (and A.pantherina, similar profile with more kick drum), but only on doses too low to be significant. Both must be processed to get rid of toxic stuff. One way of doing that is making water kefir with them. A friend of mine does that routinely. Tasty! It's also potent if you put enough mushrooms in it (which my friend prudently didn't on those few occasions).

The effects are totally unlike classic mushrooms: no tryptamines in amanitas. At low doses, it's a numbing stupor, soft and somewhat similar to a low dose of alcohol. At higher doses, I'm told it's delirium and visions. The effects are quite linear, so by increasing the dose gradually it's fairly easy to find the right level. The only problem is that different fruits have wildly different potency - even if picked from the same spot/mycelium. So the best approach is to prepare the whole batch together and stick to the same batch when looking for the goldilocks level. Kefir in particular freezes well and keeps for months/years.
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October 29, 2025, 06:46:08 PM

I wonder if the price action is anything to do with the strategy B minus rating.

Perhaps a little bit too late for that to be the case. I don't know.

Can I bet you a thousand sats that there's a note on the sailor's desk right now that reads something like just convert all of your holdings into ETF shares and you're going to be an A.
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October 29, 2025, 06:52:13 PM

I wonder if the price action is anything to do with the strategy B minus rating.

Perhaps a little bit too late for that to be the case. I don't know.

Can I bet you a thousand sats that there's a note on the sailor's desk right now that reads something like just convert all of your holdings into ETF shares and you're going to be an A.

Powell said in his speech that a December rate cut might not happen. This made people sell off pretty hard. It’s clear the economy is headed towards a major crash. It’s about finding a good spot to get out now. I keep hoping that we see one more rally to be able to sell, but hope isn’t the greatest investment strategy.
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Okay, I wanted to post a couple videos here that I found helpful.

This whole podcast conversation is quite good. Jimmy Song has one of the more reasonable and granular takes on all that's going on right now.

Here's a good clip.
https://x.com/TheGuySwann/status/1983265318316527840?t=u3HwAnLE6Jvi6XnJOeYxLQ&s=19

And the entire chat.
https://youtu.be/U6RmWCJ-dMY

And here's a pretty good one that leans the other direction this is Adam Back back talking with Natalie.
https://youtu.be/-R0CkF7a_yk


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I wonder if the price action is anything to do with the strategy B minus rating.

Perhaps a little bit too late for that to be the case. I don't know.

Can I bet you a thousand sats that there's a note on the sailor's desk right now that reads something like just convert all of your holdings into ETF shares and you're going to be an A.

Powell said in his speech that a December rate cut might not happen. This made people sell off pretty hard. It’s clear the economy is headed towards a major crash. It’s about finding a good spot to get out now. I keep hoping that we see one more rally to be able to sell, but hope isn’t the greatest investment strategy.

Yeah, I agree with you. And some of the possible trajectories I see are pretty nasty for Bitcoin. Because even though Bitcoin is going to be a hedge against the collapse of the economy, just like gold is, I believe both of them will suffer when the crash actually happens.

My darkest theories on where we are run pretty conspiratorial, but I just don't see that many other realities.

Nothing is going to survive, and unfortunately I think that's the plan.  A bit of a financial COVID, if you like.  The governments are going to have to take extreme measures to correct the solution and save everybody for starvation.

In the US, I believe they would have had an easier time executing this with Harris in office, but theyve obviously got Trump pinned down at this point. So...

Some of my less awful theories are not nearly so crazy sounding, but I'm not sure that they're a whole lot more likely either.

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