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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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Rate cut - quantitative easing restart - quantitative tightening ending - China U.S trade deal - gold ATH - hash rate ATH - record ETF inflow - low supply - adoption - tech stocks ATH and so on.

Seems like nothing can make Bitcoin pump anymore.
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October 30, 2025, 07:59:59 AM

I have no 'skillz' in timing anything in my life at all...why should this be any different?

That’s a little bit depressing. Maybe you just haven’t found your opportunity yet. The fact that you are here at all I would say makes your timing better than the vast majority of people on this planet. It may be difficult to see that now, but I bet in a few more years when you look back you’ll realize it is the truth.

Trump and Xi meeting now. This will either be really good or really bad for markets.

OgNasty you are right, being here gives one a lot of knowledge on how to go about your investment and you may be very good without even realizing it, a lot of people became very knowledgeable about Bitcoin because they are here and Yes being here will make one's timing better as long as you are always active here it will be better, and the reason why is because all our discussion here is about Bitcoin and how is going, it's been discussed and talked about everyday.

One of the things that where agreed on the Trump and Xi meeting is that the U.S. government will reduce tariffs on Chinese goods, and China agreed to resume buying U.S. soybeans and keep rare-earths exports flowing you can read more here

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Rate cut - quantitative easing restart - quantitative tightening ending - China U.S trade deal - gold ATH - hash rate ATH - record ETF inflow - low supply - adoption - tech stocks ATH and so on.

Seems like nothing can make Bitcoin pump anymore.
This has happened before. But there has been no pressure on all these things at once.
And the old meltdown does not create new excitement in the market.
The price of Bitcoin has been in a range for a long time.
I think the price of Bitcoin will slowly ups and down or continue to rise at a slow pace until something unexpected happens.
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Splashing out on FLAVOURED noodles!?

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Do you think this is the current market cycle?


Take a bold step

The price of Bitcoin has been rising and falling like a dick head without enough blood flow within the venous muscles.
Do you think this is the recent pattern that price of Bitcoin has been following?
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I really don't know if $124k was the top or not. I know that i'm holding out for too long too often, which makes me bad at "timing the market".
Still, i remember LFC is much better in this regard, but in a market situation which is as complex as today, even he could be wrong.
But what i know for sure is that each Satoshi i sell is no longer mine.

#sellwhenyoumust
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I really don't know if $124k was the top or not. I know that i'm holding out for too long too often, which makes me bad at "timing the market".
Still, i remember LFC is much better in this regard, but in a market situation which is as complex as today, even he could be wrong.
But what i know for sure is that each Satoshi i sell is no longer mine.

#sellwhenyoumust

Every Bitcoin we sell is a mistake in the long term but life comes at us fast. I have enough Bitcoin to fund my life until I die and leave an inheritance to my kid.

That doesn’t mean I want to be a wage slave and struggle by HODLING everything to the grave. Bitcoin is here to free us from misery and improve life. If you can upgrade your life because you bought early, by selling some corn you should do it.

I just can’t reiterate how much this cycle has disappointed me. I just can’t justify selling any more at this price, if I was going to at 109k then I should have done so in January, sickening really how poorly Bitcoin has performed in 2025. You can guarantee though that as soon as stocks have a big correction or we go into a recession, Bitcoin will shit the bed and dump more than everything else.

Maybe the best opportunities are selling more near the top of cycles and buying the blood in bear markets because simply buying, for example today & HODLING, isn’t going to give you any better returns than the stock market for 3-4 years at least.
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I come to think that Don Josephine has managed to get to a point where his announcements can bring markets down, but once he has supposedly good news nobody anymore believes him (or just wonders how long it will take for him to again throw around shit in that matter) and therefor markets go sideways instead of up.

I mean in other times an agreement I meant ofc DEAL! with China and a 25bp cut would be pumpworthy events, right?

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I really don't know if $124k was the top or not. I know that i'm holding out for too long too often, which makes me bad at "timing the market".
Still, i remember LFC is much better in this regard, but in a market situation which is as complex as today, even he could be wrong.
But what i know for sure is that each Satoshi i sell is no longer mine.

#sellwhenyoumust

Every Bitcoin we sell is a mistake in the long term but life comes at us fast. I have enough Bitcoin to fund my life until I die and leave an inheritance to my kid.

That doesn’t mean I want to be a wage slave and struggle by HODLING everything to the grave. Bitcoin is here to free us from misery and improve life. If you can upgrade your life because you bought early, by selling some corn you should do it.

I just can’t reiterate how much this cycle has disappointed me. I just can’t justify selling any more at this price, if I was going to at 109k then I should have done so in January, sickening really how poorly Bitcoin has performed in 2025. You can guarantee though that as soon as stocks have a big correction or we go into a recession, Bitcoin will shit the bed and dump more than everything else.

Maybe the best opportunities are selling more near the top of cycles and buying the blood in bear markets because simply buying, for example today & HODLING, isn’t going to give you any better returns than the stock market for 3-4 years at least.

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We still have to see when and how this cycle ends. I sold a little bit at $118k to buy a new car, but there is a batch of corn waiting to be released for future buys.
At least i was pretty good at identifying the final capitulation at the bottom of each bear market i witnessed, so even if my top2top returns aren't x4 but maybe only x3, it will be good enough for me. OK, mindrust may have beaten me one time, but he still was the loser regarding this occasion  Cheesy
On the other hand, i am talking about selling and bear markets when the top wasn't confirmed yet.
What frustrates me the most is that the holdings are shifting from private to institutional, at the loss of price rise. Once this is over, there is a chance for higher prices.
What really pisses me off is how the retail market changed, or vanished. There is so much volume being handled by OTC and derivatives, and it even hinders Bitcoin's success. Crazy leveraging doesn't help it either. This went way out of hand, imo and that are the reasons for frustrating cycle development. It's basically a series of range-bound sideways fuckery, every time until the greedy manipulators are fed, then (probably) the same people drive the price by buying BTC, to have enough powder to shoot leveraged longs.
Watching from the sideline, patience should define the winners.

When it comes to lifestyle, i was trained by my past life to stay humble and not spend more than i have to. There are enough special interest and "hobbies" that make me going and some are quite expensive, but i always work on optimizing my cost of living. My wife stopped asking me "if you have so much corn, why don't you spend more of it?". The answer is always the same: "I don't want to because i don't have to".

Then there are the jealous ones. They don't show it or don't try to show it, but i think many of the newer WO's are envious looking at OGs that bought considerable amounts of BTC when the price was low. Well, understandable, but not a good way to look at things. If someone feels bad because of the success of someone else, he makes a big mistake. When you project this behaviour onto retailers, you have a valid explanation for their absence in this cycle. They are grumpy because they "missed the train", "it's too expensive" and "the era of great returns is over".

Yes, you can see it as a downward spiral, but there is sufficient upwards movement to compensate for, but the real question is:
For how long?

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Rate cut - quantitative easing restart - quantitative tightening ending - China U.S trade deal - gold ATH - hash rate ATH - record ETF inflow - low supply - adoption - tech stocks ATH and so on.

Seems like nothing can make Bitcoin pump anymore.
Until it does
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 I got a great deal on some single-serving, made-in-Italy, shelf-stable lasagna this week.  I might have to save that for more prosperous times and go back to supplementing my diet with sand.

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Seems like nothing can make Bitcoin pump anymore.
Until it does
Exactly. If even the WO-thread feels desperate, it reminds me of this:
Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own.
The funny part is: I found this on Reddit's crypto board, and it was posted 5 years ago.
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