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You are making personal attacks on JayJuanGee ........

.....whether you like him or not agree with his statements or not it cannot be denied that he discusses based on facts and logic not personal insults.

I'm not a complete angel since I throw out (or include) some personal insults once in a while too..    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

We are in uncharted territory imho and we have Blackrock and the boys playing around this time! We can certainly expect the unexpected… they are absolute professionals at stealing your Bitcoin 1 satoshi at a time!
Can you explain how Blackrock is stealing Bitcoin 1 satoshi at a time? That's quite an accusation to be making!

If true, the SEC and DOJ would certainly be very interested in what you know 'if' you can prove your claim that Blackrock steals Bitcoin. Otherwise it is a fraudulent assertion that could be treated as a false statement of a material fact made with the intent to cause Blackrock harm.  
 

You are quite the gullible little turd in your presumption that the powers that be create and/or enforce laws and/or policies in ways that actually "do the right thing" or that they are neutral in their goals or that they are attempting to protect consumers as frequently they state to be their goals.

There are many ways that BIGGER players are allowed to steal money from the public and from individuals and to disproportionately benefit in systematic ways or even in ways that they are not punished when things blow up and they were responsible for such blow-up(s), whether we are referring to Blackrock or various other protected (and influential) institutional players (or status quo rich folks).

FYI - BlackRock can take legal action regarding false accusations made on a social messaging website, and this action could be directed at this bitcointalk.org website, or at the individual (you) who made the statement, going after your IP address for identification. I don't think you want that to happen or to be involved in such matters... Just saying'  

There is no real need for you to be any more retarded than you already are.. except that you continue to show yourself as a lapdog for status quo institutions and desires to project them as if they were a good thing to invest in...  

You would just love for more and more normies to put their money into scam paper products so that they can be bled of their wealth and also bled of their self-sovereignty and financial sovereignty to the extent that either of those continue to exist in modern times.
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OT:
The trial today was interesting. Mr. scammer and his accomplice wife are going to be arrested for 2-4 years. I didn't stay until the final ruling, but i can browse the documentation online in a couple of days. Sadly, they got children, but this is a reason for the wife to get away with house arrest.

Is this something that "we" should know without a more explicit reference?  perhaps I can google, but still, why should I have to take any additional steps?  Am I getting lazy?  Tell me it isn't so.

Nope, just a quick update to my post from earlier this day. It was about an ill horse that was sold to me, which was actually stolen. And i'm not the only victim, as i found out later. The horse is fine now, but the scammer got prosecuted. Short version. It's not in the news, but the country i live in offers public documentation of all legal proceedings and trials (except civil law).



Yeah, they did the same to Internet stocks in 2001-2002, brought AMZN down from $400 to $5, then bought it cheaply over the following 2-3 years.
Same happened with NFLX...at some point it lost 60-70% all of a sudden with no "visible" causes.
I see all this, but, unfortunately, i don't have many decades ahead, unless AI would be able to find the anti-aging treatment in the next 10 years or so.
Still...I hodl.

Maybe hedge fonds moves?

Still, you can do a lot to age healthy, based on asian medicine. Berberine, Cordyceps militaris, Nattokinase to name a few, combined with NAC, Vitamin C,D,B, Magnesium, Potassium, Zinc. It's some research to do what works and what to combine and what not to combine. I know, with 50+ i can only guess what life is like at +10, +20, or even 80+ years, but compared to people of my age, i'm doing noticeably well (working memory problems and attention deficit excluded, but i also managed to improve those).

OT:
The trial today was interesting. Mr. scammer and his accomplice wife are going to be arrested for 2-4 years. I didn't stay until the final ruling, but i can browse the documentation online in a couple of days. Sadly, they got children, but this is a reason for the wife to get away with house arrest.



Yes, sure, you can find some small molecule "treatments" that might help, but there is this fundamental problem of aging that science as a whole so far has not been able to fully grasp with some tantalizing hints from the model organisms. I think every genome is unique and whatever is found for mice might not work for humans, but could point in a right direction.

There are several multibillion $$ (in direct investment) private companies that are working on this problem and P. Diamandis thinks that it is solvable in 10-15 years.
I also read with interest about the 5 stages of brain development; 0-8, 9-31, 32-65, 66-83 and over 83.
https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/five-ages-human-brain

I am of the opinion that when you get to be over 83, then all these new types of medicines might not help much as the brain is already at the final stage.
The best time is probably the 32-65 years old cohort, but I am hoping that 66-83 might still be "extended". We shall see.

I have seen my father in law: he was very sharp until about 81, then 81-84 was OK, but then you could have seen the changes after about 85-86. Died of COVID at 88, RIP.
In my family line(s), all females live a very long time (over 90 to much over 90), but all males die by 83 and less to much less, so there is some prior history.


Interesting link, thanks.
I knew about accelerated cell aging at 34, 60 and 78. And this type of aging is heavily influenced by lifestyle, environment and nutrition.
Clearly, a lot of these progressions are influenced by genetics, but i have a different example in my family:
My grandfather got 94 years old, never smoked, never drank alcohol, worked as a tinner. My father (his son) believed that he would get about as old, no matter what, because he inherited "my father's good genetics". He quit smoking at 35 or so (but also sports), worked in the IT industry, unhealthy eating habits, drank alcohol (not much but quite daily), died at 60, believing he would get as old as his dad until the day he died.
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Can you explain how Blackrock is stealing Bitcoin 1 satoshi at a time? That's quite an accusation to be making!

If true, the SEC and DOJ would certainly be very interested in what you know 'if' you can prove your claim that Blackrock steals Bitcoin. Otherwise it is a fraudulent assertion that could be treated as a false statement of a material fact made with the intent to cause Blackrock harm.  
 

 Isn't it enough to come here to unroll your
 toilet paper rolls in the heads of the readers of this topic,?

Need to level up and move on to threats now?,

  where do you want to get with your papers?
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Yeah, they did the same to Internet stocks in 2001-2002, brought AMZN down from $400 to $5, then bought it cheaply over the following 2-3 years.
Same happened with NFLX...at some point it lost 60-70% all of a sudden with no "visible" causes.
I see all this, but, unfortunately, i don't have many decades ahead, unless AI would be able to find the anti-aging treatment in the next 10 years or so.
Still...I hodl.

Maybe hedge fonds moves?

Still, you can do a lot to age healthy, based on asian medicine. Berberine, Cordyceps militaris, Nattokinase to name a few, combined with NAC, Vitamin C,D,B, Magnesium, Potassium, Zinc. It's some research to do what works and what to combine and what not to combine. I know, with 50+ i can only guess what life is like at +10, +20, or even 80+ years, but compared to people of my age, i'm doing noticeably well (working memory problems and attention deficit excluded, but i also managed to improve those).

OT:
The trial today was interesting. Mr. scammer and his accomplice wife are going to be arrested for 2-4 years. I didn't stay until the final ruling, but i can browse the documentation online in a couple of days. Sadly, they got children, but this is a reason for the wife to get away with house arrest.



Yes, sure, you can find some small molecule "treatments" that might help, but there is this fundamental problem of aging that science as a whole so far has not been able to fully grasp with some tantalizing hints from the model organisms. I think every genome is unique and whatever is found for mice might not work for humans, but could point in a right direction.

There are several multibillion $$ (in direct investment) private companies that are working on this problem and P. Diamandis thinks that it is solvable in 10-15 years.
I also read with interest about the 5 stages of brain development; 0-8, 9-31, 32-65, 66-83 and over 83.
https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/five-ages-human-brain

I am of the opinion that when you get to be over 83, then all these new types of medicines might not help much as the brain is already at the final stage.
The best time is probably the 32-65 years old cohort, but I am hoping that 66-83 might still be "extended". We shall see.

I have seen my father in law: he was very sharp until about 81, then 81-84 was OK, but then you could have seen the changes after about 85-86. Died of COVID at 88, RIP.
In my family line(s), all females live a very long time (over 90 to much over 90), but all males die by 83 and less to much less, so there is some prior history.


Interesting link, thanks.
I knew about accelerated cell aging at 34, 60 and 78. And this type of aging is heavily influenced by lifestyle, environment and nutrition.
Clearly, a lot of these progressions are influenced by genetics, but i have a different example in my family:
My grandfather got 94 years old, never smoked, never drank alcohol, worked as a tinner. My father (his son) believed that he would get about as old, no matter what, because he inherited "my father's good genetics". He quit smoking at 35 or so (but also sports), worked in the IT industry, unhealthy eating habits, drank alcohol (not much but quite daily), died at 60, believing he would get as old as his dad until the day he died.


Certainly, 60 is way too early, I am sorry that you had to experience this at, presumably, young age.

Healthy or unhealthy habits might not always have a great influence.
W. Churchill was overweight, smoke cigars and drank cognac, yet lived to more than 90.
Who knows, maybe if he didn't do all this, he would have lived to over 100, but, still...
Perhaps, sometimes it's just a game of chance.
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Certainly, 60 is way too early, I am sorry that you had to experience this at, presumably, young age.

Healthy or unhealthy habits might not always have a great influence.
W. Churchill was overweight, smoke cigars and drank cognac, yet lived to more than 90.
Who knows, maybe if he didn't do all this, he would have lived to over 100, but, still...
Perhaps, sometimes it's just a game of chance.

It is always some luck involved.
Some genes.
Some actions.

I am certain stopping the cigarettes in Feb 1996 made me healthier.
No way I could have lasted til now.

But I was lucky to get just sick enough to know smoking had to end or I would end.
I acted on it in time.

None of us know if a behavior will fuck us or not when we begin it.

But after a while some of us are lucky enough to know when to stop that bad habit.

My friend from 1996 broke his hip at the doctors office during a check up. He did surgery not sure how well he will heal hoping for the best. He is 79.
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Certainly, 60 is way too early, I am sorry that you had to experience this at, presumably, young age.

Healthy or unhealthy habits might not always have a great influence.
W. Churchill was overweight, smoke cigars and drank cognac, yet lived to more than 90.
Who knows, maybe if he didn't do all this, he would have lived to over 100, but, still...
Perhaps, sometimes it's just a game of chance.

It is always some luck involved.
Some genes.
Some actions.

I am certain stopping the cigarettes in Feb 1996 made me healthier.
No way I could have lasted til now.

But I was lucky to get just sick enough to know smoking had to end or I would end.
I acted on it in time.

None of us know if a behavior will fuck us or not when we begin it.

But after a while some of us are lucky enough to know when to stop that bad habit.

My friend from 1996 broke his hip at the doctors office during a check up. He did surgery not sure how well he will heal hoping for the best. He is 79.

Yeah, stopping smoking is like this: the survival curve changes at the very moment you stopped and instead of plunging straight down after about 40 years of smoking, it bends rightwards to a much longer life.

You can even stop at 65, almost on the precipice (albeit, i would not advise to wait that long), and still add a decade or two...or continue and have only a few years max.
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OT:
The trial today was interesting. Mr. scammer and his accomplice wife are going to be arrested for 2-4 years. I didn't stay until the final ruling, but i can browse the documentation online in a couple of days. Sadly, they got children, but this is a reason for the wife to get away with house arrest.

Nope, just a quick update to my post from earlier this day. It was about an ill horse that was sold to me, which was actually stolen. And i'm not the only victim, as i found out later. The horse is fine now, but the scammer got prosecuted. Short version. It's not in the news, but the country i live in offers public documentation of all legal proceedings and trials (except civil law).

OOM - Since the horse was originally stolen and then sold to you, are you somehow able to keep it now as its legitimate owner?

Was the scammer and his wife prosecuted for your case along with the other victim(s) in the same ruling or just for your one individual case? Is the horse used for show, breeding or pleasure or a work horse? I'm glad the horse is healthy now, maybe with your care and attention.      
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A see something controversial in the charts:

Since Dec 2022 low (3 years):

BCH outperformed Bitcoin during both the last three and one year time frames:

BCH at 97.7 at Dec 2022 low, now 624.12 (up 538.8%)
BCH at 480.65 one year ago, now 624.12 (up 29.84%)

BTC at 15782 at Nov 2022 low, now 87892 (up 456.9%)
BTC at 100070 one year ago, now 87892 (down 12.17%)

My read: there are some parties or a hedge fund (or a multiple of those) that are actively accumulating BCH in the last three years, accelerating in the last year and at the same time the same funds might have been shorting btc (the latter suggestion is a stretch, but could be a logical path).

I can easily see how bch can make itself more "sexy" in the short term...beware.
What would happen to the sentiment in btc if outperformance of bch would increase?
Of course, those bitcoins that were not split since 2017 would get both chains appreciation or the lack of it.
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OT:
The trial today was interesting. Mr. scammer and his accomplice wife are going to be arrested for 2-4 years. I didn't stay until the final ruling, but i can browse the documentation online in a couple of days. Sadly, they got children, but this is a reason for the wife to get away with house arrest.

Nope, just a quick update to my post from earlier this day. It was about an ill horse that was sold to me, which was actually stolen. And i'm not the only victim, as i found out later. The horse is fine now, but the scammer got prosecuted. Short version. It's not in the news, but the country i live in offers public documentation of all legal proceedings and trials (except civil law).

OOM - Since the horse was originally stolen and then sold to you, are you somehow able to keep it now as its legitimate owner?

Was the scammer and his wife prosecuted for your case along with the other victim(s) in the same ruling or just for your one individual case? Is the horse used for show or breeding or a work horse? I'm glad the horse is healthy now, maybe with your help an attention.      

my guess based on USA law is the original owner gets the horse 🐎 back.

oom gets money from the thief to pay for the loss.

but oom would be free to cut a deal with the original owner if the original owner wants to.

but countries vary.

also someone nursed the horse back to health which could complicate things a bit.
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A see something controversial in the charts:
Since Dec 2022 low (3 years):

BCH outperformed Bitcoin during both the last three and one year time frames:

BCH at 97.7 at Dec 2022 low, now 624.12 (up 538.8%)
BCH at 480.65 one year ago, now 624.12 (up 29.84%)

BTC at 15782 at Nov 2022 low, now 87892 (up 456.9%)
BTC at 100070 one year ago, now 87892 (down 12.17%)

My read: there are some parties or a hedge fund (or a multiple of those) that are actively accumulating BCH in the last three years, accelerating in the last year and at the same time the same funds might have been shorting btc (the latter suggestion is a stretch, but could be a logical path).

I can easily see how bch can make itself more "sexy" in the short term...beware.
What would happen to the sentiment in btc if outperformance of bch would increase?
Of course, those bitcoins that were not split since 2017 would get both chains appreciation or the lack of it.

Horey sheit!!!!  You sound distracted.  Roll Eyes

There are not even very many places that I can find the BTC / BCH pair in order to try to make a comparison, yet it seems that BCH had gone down quite a bit for several years prior to 2022 (so yeah, mostly starting from 2018 until 2022), so the mere fact that it recovered a wee bit or stayed flat since 2022 sounds like a BIG so fucking what?

Which other pieces of shit coins should we be distracted into with some hope that they may have some temporary pumpenings?

Does not seem like a good use of time, energy and/or value to be gambling with our bitcoin investment funds (or even our discussions in this thread) in such a way that we might be trying to identify some glimmer of hope that some shitcoin might be less shitty than some other shitcoin on some timescale that we consider potentially profitable to trade with our investment funds.
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A see something controversial in the charts:
Since Dec 2022 low (3 years):

BCH outperformed Bitcoin during both the last three and one year time frames:

BCH at 97.7 at Dec 2022 low, now 624.12 (up 538.8%)
BCH at 480.65 one year ago, now 624.12 (up 29.84%)

BTC at 15782 at Nov 2022 low, now 87892 (up 456.9%)
BTC at 100070 one year ago, now 87892 (down 12.17%)

My read: there are some parties or a hedge fund (or a multiple of those) that are actively accumulating BCH in the last three years, accelerating in the last year and at the same time the same funds might have been shorting btc (the latter suggestion is a stretch, but could be a logical path).

I can easily see how bch can make itself more "sexy" in the short term...beware.
What would happen to the sentiment in btc if outperformance of bch would increase?
Of course, those bitcoins that were not split since 2017 would get both chains appreciation or the lack of it.

Horey sheit!!!!  You sound distracted.  Roll Eyes

There are not even very many places that I can find the BTC / BCH pair in order to try to make a comparison, yet it seems that BCH had gone down quite a bit for several years prior to 2022 (so yeah, mostly starting from 2018 until 2022), so the mere fact that it recovered a wee bit or stayed flat since 2022 sounds like a BIG so fucking what?

Which other pieces of shit coins should we be distracted into with some hope that they may have some temporary pumpenings?

Does not seem like a good use of time, energy and/or value to be gambling with our bitcoin investment funds (or even our discussions in this thread) in such a way that we might be trying to identify some glimmer of hope that some shitcoin might be less shitty than some other shitcoin on some timescale that we consider potentially profitable to trade with our investment funds.

FFS...distracted? I gave you the data..you can close your eyes and ears, smoke it or look at it and surmise what it means.
Don't feign a surprise if the dichotomy increases further due to an aggressive marketing, which i am sure is coming pretty soon (within a year or two).

I don't need to buy bch as it is tucked in together with btc, sleeping side by side in a permanent hodling wallet since way back when.
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I am double posting to say I have far more in btc than silver

why is that BTC is liquid and silver is so so.

Look at my bitcointalk listing for silver.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5568505.0

silver is over 24 usd a coin (half dollars)

and I am asking under 20 a coin a huge discount

and the guy wants more discount. LOL Grin

That is how hard it is to sell silver.

I have played with silver since 1977.

I caught every runup and made some money each runup but selling it is always very hard to do.

I would never own a kilo or a 100oz bar as that is worse to be sure it is good.




@hyperjacked if BTC is going to be toyed with like it seems to be and if they do a repeat and rinse move it is in trouble as it is too easy for this to happen and there is no reason for it to happen other than really rich whales hurting the rest by playing yo yo

Wow Phil you’re older than me… 😝 I timed the last run up in silver and traded it in for Bitcoin.
We are in uncharted territory imho and we have Blackrock and the boys playing around this time! We can certainly expect the unexpected… they are absolute professionals at stealing your Bitcoin 1 satoshi at a time!
 Tread lightly… buy the dips n hold has always been a good strategy long term imo 😎

1) Buy and HODL. Myself selling stuff out of attic I'd otherwise die with is soooooo boring...for some BTC dust....I'm not like

Phlipma1957....I got's no scrap copper/silver etc. Smiley

2) Mining BTC, which is problematic as as small fry. Indeed Voskcoin with a decent miner operation and with a large YouTube Subscriber base shut down his Bitcoin Mining

 in that at 9c KWh it just was not cutting it.

3) Just buy and HODL from regular income (if a job) with auto-pay out to BTC each say week...again HODL

or

4) as was stated above be a big institution or whale and play games with FUD (fear, uncertainty, despair) to get folks to sell dump and gobble it up. This is the most evil

and smart play to do.....also with low btc liquidity you can play this game with bots to do FUD and panic every day with conditions right.

So only 1) selling stuff and HOLDING and 3) regular income auto pay to btc say weekly  seem the most legit way to HOLD btc.

as to 4) well we are gonna see a lot more of that FUD going on via Institution and whale gobbling up as it is the most bang for the buck

but HODL'ing btc since 2015 and trying to add to my Bitcoin Hoard is my play, it basically is all in an estate if i die goes to friends and relatives anyway

or if medicinal or other emergencies I can tap in (strippers as personal care attendants in the nursing home) Smiley

But since 2015 HODL seems the legit play in hindsight....as to selling crap on eBay and FB 'should' do it but sooooooo boring and I'm retired...so slog'ing on Smiley

again HODL

supposedly 66% of Bitcoin is held by individuals outside of Satoshi and the rest...the goal of Blackrock and others is to use FUD to grab as much as possible from individuals

(also old time whales) so be aware. Myself Blackrock badly wants my BTC which is reason enough to HODL. Smiley

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Hey Buddy!!!
, this business of staying above
 85 and below 90,
with strong volume, looks like accumulation....
 Suddenly there may be that attempt of the expected 100k,
 really the volume is very high... and it didn't make it past 80...
.a war of hedgers? It really seems,
after the payments that Russia says it would accept
 and so on were started, this absurd volatility has not stopped....
 there are things happening under the hood,
which we can't see if we don't want to....
now, it already has NITS, integrated with BRICS Pay... Ah, these are all guesses and desires in my head, based on the space-time of price volatility related to market chaos compared to the global flow of capital. and in fact I just think you can't lose the 85 in a weekly closing.... And then, at the turn of the year, it could be a rocket that explodes in the air and releases a bunch of bright lights that illuminate our skies in the dark night assimilating with colorful shooting stars,...

....Buddy, I'm running for a red flag that a madman can hit on my head.... hahahaha...
 to die, you just have to be alive, !!!
see you later my dear,
 I'll be around here checking your order book
and speaking my sour guesses...
. and my broken news...



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I am double posting to say I have far more in btc than silver

why is that BTC is liquid and silver is so so.

Look at my bitcointalk listing for silver.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5568505.0

silver is over 24 usd a coin (half dollars)

and I am asking under 20 a coin a huge discount

and the guy wants more discount. LOL Grin

That is how hard it is to sell silver.

I have played with silver since 1977.

I caught every runup and made some money each runup but selling it is always very hard to do.

I would never own a kilo or a 100oz bar as that is worse to be sure it is good.




@hyperjacked if BTC is going to be toyed with like it seems to be and if they do a repeat and rinse move it is in trouble as it is too easy for this to happen and there is no reason for it to happen other than really rich whales hurting the rest by playing yo yo

Wow Phil you’re older than me… 😝 I timed the last run up in silver and traded it in for Bitcoin.
We are in uncharted territory imho and we have Blackrock and the boys playing around this time! We can certainly expect the unexpected… they are absolute professionals at stealing your Bitcoin 1 satoshi at a time!
 Tread lightly… buy the dips n hold has always been a good strategy long term imo 😎

1) Buy and HODL. Myself selling stuff out of attic I'd otherwise die with is soooooo boring...for some BTC dust....I'm not like

Phlipma1957....I got's no scrap copper/silver etc. Smiley

2) Mining BTC, which is problematic as as small fry. Indeed Voskcoin with a decent miner operation and with a large YouTube Subscriber base shut down his Bitcoin Mining

 in that at 9c KWh it just was not cutting it.

3) Just buy and HODL from regular income (if a job) with auto-pay out to BTC each say week...again HODL

or

4) as was stated above be a big institution or whale and play games with FUD (fear, uncertainty, despair) to get folks to sell dump and gobble it up. This is the most evil

and smart play to do.....also with low btc liquidity you can play this game with bots to do FUD and panic every day with conditions right.

So only 1) selling stuff and HOLDING and 3) regular income auto pay to btc say weekly  seem the most legit way to HOLD btc.

as to 4) well we are gonna see a lot more of that FUD going on via Institution and whale gobbling up as it is the most bang for the buck

but HODL'ing btc since 2015 and trying to add to my Bitcoin Hoard is my play, it basically is all in an estate if i die goes to friends and relatives anyway

or if medicinal or other emergencies I can tap in (strippers as personal care attendants in the nursing home) Smiley

But since 2015 HODL seems the legit play in hindsight....as to selling crap on eBay and FB 'should' do it but sooooooo boring and I'm retired...so slog'ing on Smiley

again HODL

supposedly 66% of Bitcoin is held by individuals outside of Satoshi and the rest...the goal of Blackrock and others is to use FUD to grab as much as possible from individuals

(also old time whales) so be aware. Myself Blackrock badly wants my BTC which is reason enough to HODL. Smiley



Yeah they sell on ebay (silver quarters) a bit under spot(melt) 440 vs 481

just sold 1 more a few minutes ago.

I had 10 rolls of quarters sold 3 so far.

Roughly 540 usd became 1100 usd after fees. It will allow for more 0.001 buys of btc.
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