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[vapourminer]

If you want to buy a high-end coffee maker you really should  use this item for the water.

https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Countertop-Purification-Contaminants-Installation/dp/B0F2GRXV71/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?


The key to good coffee is neutral pure water.

yup, already use well water with RO filtration, then distill that for coffee/tea, just because im a water snob

[vapourminer]

Bang. More oil

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-seizing-another-ship-caribbean-171259343.html

2nd tanker grabbed by Trump.

[...]

I think they have access  to around 14 tankers and Trump grabbed 2 of them.

I forgot, why are we at war with them?

waddayamean? we need a reason??

we have always been at war with eastasia

[BTCETFInvestor]

OT:
The trial today was interesting. Mr. scammer and his accomplice wife are going to be arrested for 2-4 years. I didn't stay until the final ruling, but i can browse the documentation online in a couple of days. Sadly, they got children, but this is a reason for the wife to get away with house arrest.

Nope, just a quick update to my post from earlier this day. It was about an ill horse that was sold to me, which was actually stolen. And i'm not the only victim, as i found out later. The horse is fine now, but the scammer got prosecuted. Short version. It's not in the news, but the country i live in offers public documentation of all legal proceedings and trials (except civil law).

OOM - Since the horse was originally stolen and then sold to you, are you somehow able to keep it now as its legitimate owner?

Was the scammer and his wife prosecuted for your case along with the other victim(s) in the same ruling or just for your one individual case? Is the horse used for show or breeding or a work horse? I'm glad the horse is healthy now, maybe with your help an attention.      

my guess based on USA law is the original owner gets the horse 🐎 back.

oom gets money from the thief to pay for the loss.

but oom would be free to cut a deal with the original owner if the original owner wants to.

but countries vary.

also someone nursed the horse back to health which could complicate things a bit.

In detail: We (me + wife) were looking after the name of the horse on the internet, just out of curiosity. We found photos (she was a competition winner), name and photos of the real owner and also a posting on her facebook page that the horse was missing. We contacted her and she was glad that we have relieved her sorrows and ended the uncertainties about the fate of her horse. She said she was happy that the horse was alive and that she has a good home, which was all she wanted. My wife and her also became friends in the process. The horse was stolen in a way that the scammer claimed to run a sanctuary for horses and would take care of the horse for free and the owner could visit her anytime. She rang him up a few times and he assured her that the horse is doing fine. Then she came for a visit and he denied entry to the farm. At this time the horse was already sold. The owner didn't see the horse by the other horses on the paddocks and then she was researching and found the group where all the other victims have come together. Some of the horses, mainly very old and very ill ones, were brought straight to the slaughterhouse, the ones that were in better condition have been sold after the scammer managed to temporarily hide signs of sickness. In my case, it was chronic inflammation of the hoofs that was only showing in winter, but the horse always avoided to gallop and stepping on hard grounds (asphalt, concrete, rock), even in summer.
The whole story is a bit complicated, i am also not doing good in concentrating and i'm also lacking a bit of eloquence, since i had my last Muscimol dose yesterday. But in short, the original owner gave us the horse for free. From then on she finally could really come for a visit whenever she wanted, even when we'd not be at home.
We cured the hoof inflammations using Nattokinase and gaiters made from llama-wool socks, because the anti-inflammatory drugs that the vet gave me would have done some harm over time and also sedated the horse too much.
The scammer was insisting that the owner sold the horse to him and she didn't want a receipt. That was also subject of yesterday's trial, where the owner had a short video-interview by the judge in a separate room in court, because the scammer has threatened her in the past, so she was very anxious about having to stay in the same room with him.

As for getting money back from the scammer: He officially has no belongings, as does his wife. There is a long list of debtees and they probably never get any compensation. The scammer also never paid a cent of taxes. I don't care. The horse is safe and sound, that's the important thing.

OOM - Was the horse theft a cross-border event? Cross-border always makes it more difficult for courts to handle, especially when the parties involved are also in different jurisdictions or adjoining countries.

[ESG]

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thank you very much MrPhill!!, have a nice day!!!

Thank you very much Phil for entertaining our various current residential WO troll bots.  


You are doing a great service in these here parts.  Seriously.  #nohomo

JJGee, don't be mad at me,... I believe you might be calling me a troll', because of this>>

Explanation
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Hey Buddy!!!
, this business of.....~... can't lose the 85 in a weekly closing.... And then, at the turn of the year, it could be a rocket that explodes in the air and releases a bunch of bright lights that illuminate our skies in the dark night assimilating with colorful shooting stars,...

....Buddy, I'm running for a red flag that a madman can hit on my head.... hahahaha...
 to die, you just have to be alive, !!!
....
..... I was sad and disappointed, because I really tried hard...

...But that's a conversation between me and 'chart-buddy', and I guarantee that I'm not referring to you here, if I was, I would do it like I'm doing now.

I was referring to this >>> here and after  this Here. and, after  this,that i mentionthat guy ,that i  ask for ann red flag, he answer  this>>>

You are incredibly stupid. Fuck you. And I will not obey your commands because you are truly a fucked up piece of shit.

 as I always see that you like to express your opinion,
why not ask  for you, if you can't leave your opinion about it here,

   I'm sure it will be a good job, there in those parts...since you
spend most of your time in the speculation area
 discussing with those who trade with Bitcoin, lol....hehehe...is an joke man....

...also, but going forward, when I have a little more time, I'll ask you, if I can translate your 200Week average accumulation thesis, and about sustainable  withdraw, to my languaje, because, is usefully,  if, anyone alreadt did this, or if U you aprove, and should u see that i am not this guy that u think  that i am...perhaps?

and then again I'm sorry if you thought I'm referring to you,
for it's not my intention, no way,

#:+:
Also, I didn't say anything about the subject and i wouldn't , but I decided to say, to answer you, that I dont are trolling you. ok?

[JayJuanGee]

......... the korn has not yet reached the right price for me to buy it..

It seems to me that even if several of us are not necessarily waiting for high prices to sell some corn for whatever consumption needs (or wants) that we might have, yet at the same time, there are likely disinclinations for several of us to be inspired to sell corn on the dip, even if we might still be 10x, 20x or more in profits...; remember at current prices, anyone who has average costs of $4,400 or less would be at least 20x in profits... but they still might not want to sell on the dip.

Our current price is pretty much around 30% from the $126k top, and also around flat prices for the whole last year (even though surely we know that the BTC price had not been flat for the whole of last year since we had right around 4 ATH runs in this calendar year.. .January $109k, May $112k, July $123k and October 6, $126k.  Maybe not high in their percentages, but still higher than our $69k jumping off point from the November 2024 Trump pump.. which the BTC price has not (yet) gone below that November 2024 jumping off point which was largely where we were at on November 4, 2024... and go back 2 years, we were pretty much jumping off of $27k in late October 2023.. so it can be difficult to complain for anyone who may have had average costs per corn that are (or were) somehow lower than $27k.  Anyone with corn prices below $27k had likely front-run the institutions (and governments) currently trying to reset the clocks and get lower and lower prices.. and I have my doubts about their getting their way, even though they surely may have some more ammunition that they would like to throw at this situation that those Johnny come lately are trying to deal with.

There are still 3.5 months for the bet to play out, and yeah, sure at the moment, LFC seems to have a bit of a trend (momentum) working to his favor, yet it may be premature to count my side of the bet as being out..

...and probably the more important question for folks concerns how to manage their own holdings... and so many guys want to be able to sell some of their corn, even though they are not even close to overaccumulation status... but, yep, I know there are various opinions regarding how aggressive any guys should be within their bitcoin accumulation practices, and I am surely much of an advocate for changing levels of BTC accumulation aggressiveness based on BTC price movements.. .. yet I think sometimes normies make the error of lowering their BTC accumulation aggressiveness based on their speculation that the BTC price may go down further, which surely may or may not end up happening.

Bitcoin price is very uncertain and we don't know what's the exact low or what's the ATH. Take example of current scenario, we don't know whether current price of 88k is the lowest or price will go further down. The best measures people (who don't have enough Bitcoins) can take in current scenario is to keep on buying Bitcoin to increase stash because dips are an opportunity for them to buy Bitcoins.  

Surely anyone new to bitcoin or even within their first 4 years of bitcoin accumulation would likely be best to be ongoingly accumulating bitcoin in this price arena - even though we know that it could have had been possible - especially in 2022 and 2023, that they could have had accumulated quite a few coin and gotten them between $16k and $35k.. and so there could have had been ways to frontload a bitcoin investment plan and even ended up with cost per coin within the $30k arena or maybe lower.  It is hard to imagine anyone, even within the past 4 years and even if they had been able to focus on bitcoin accumulation in the $16k to $35k price range that went on for more than 16 months to have had been able to achieve coin costs of much less than $30k.. even though surely it was possible (but just not seemingly probable).

Yet, even if we presume one of those kinds of better case scenarios and so then current profits (going by current spot prices) approaching 3x in profits, this still seems like buying price areas, even  for those guys with that level of BTC profits.

And, yep, we may  or may not get more drop from here.. even though I hardly consider the odds of a drop to be greater than 50%.. and even if it drops, how low is it going to go?  I have my doubts about our being ready to touch the 200-WMA yet, and the 200-WMA is currently at nearly $56.5k.. and currently going up at about $30-ish per day.

[philipma1957]

Bang. More oil

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-seizing-another-ship-caribbean-171259343.html


2nd tanker grabbed by Trump.

FIRST tanker had 1.6 million gallons

Trying to figure out how big this one is.

What are we in the badlands now?

Maybe but if they are exporting 750,000 gallons a day and Donald Trump takes a  tanker week then has them cut and scrapped Venezuela will cave in under 90 days.

I think they have access  to around 14 tankers and Trump grabbed 2 of them.

I forgot, why are we at war with them?

At that point in time it is Obvious Trump was USA to be an honest crook. He makes offers you can't refuse and if you do he fucks you.

Do I think it is good not really.

 Can he do it to Russia most likely no can he do it to China most  no.

Can he do it to any South American country yeah he could.  So the play appears to be. Putin, Xe I leave you alone for a while you grab what you want. But I want South America and Central America.

Can this happen for 3 years of Trump and 8 years of Vance? don't know, but I think the world is going to see this be attempted.

In the mean time sold more silver on the bay. I actually got 5oz sold at 349 usd more than melt

but it comes to $297.59 for 5 oz after shipping and fees.



As for buying corn yeah I now have over $1300 net in silver sales for corn buys..

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[BitHodlers]

......... the korn has not yet reached the right price for me to buy it..

It seems to me that even if several of us are not necessarily waiting for high prices to sell some corn for whatever consumption needs (or wants) that we might have, yet at the same time, there are likely disinclinations for several of us to be inspired to sell corn on the dip, even if we might still be 10x, 20x or more in profits...; remember at current prices, anyone who has average costs of $4,400 or less would be at least 20x in profits... but they still might not want to sell on the dip.

Our current price is pretty much around 30% from the $126k top, and also around flat prices for the whole last year (even though surely we know that the BTC price had not been flat for the whole of last year since we had right around 4 ATH runs in this calendar year.. .January $109k, May $112k, July $123k and October 6, $126k.  Maybe not high in their percentages, but still higher than our $69k jumping off point from the November 2024 Trump pump.. which the BTC price has not (yet) gone below that November 2024 jumping off point which was largely where we were at on November 4, 2024... and go back 2 years, we were pretty much jumping off of $27k in late October 2023.. so it can be difficult to complain for anyone who may have had average costs per corn that are (or were) somehow lower than $27k.  Anyone with corn prices below $27k had likely front-run the institutions (and governments) currently trying to reset the clocks and get lower and lower prices.. and I have my doubts about their getting their way, even though they surely may have some more ammunition that they would like to throw at this situation that those Johnny come lately are trying to deal with.

Well for me it depends a lot on what am I selling it for. Is it something that I need? Do I need it right now or can it wait? Or is it something that I wish to have? I have a pretty good coffee machine, it works really well. A $1.2k fully automated machine is a luxury item that very few people have in their homes, a small percentage of all households. This is obviously a want, and I can postpone selling for this until the price has reached a threshold where the number of corn needed is tiny enough that I am alright with it.

Of course this is different from things that a person truly needs, or there is an an emergency that goes way above the emergency fund. In that case it is understandable that someone is selling.

[Hueristic]

...

At that point in time it is Obvious Trump was USA to be an honest crook. He makes offers you can't refuse and if you do he fucks you.

Do I think it is good not really.

 Can he do it to Russia most likely no can he do it to China most  no.

Can he do it to any South American country yeah he could.  So the play appears to be. Putin, Xe I leave you alone for a while you grab what you want. But I want South America and Central America.

Can this happen for 3 years of Trump and 8 years of Vance? don't know, but I think the world is going to see this be attempted.

...

So you think he's going for the title Don before he goes for emperor?

[philipma1957]

...

At that point in time it is Obvious Trump wants USA to be an honest crook. He makes offers you can't refuse and if you do he fucks you.

Do I think it is good not really.

 Can he do it to Russia most likely no can he do it to China most  no.

Can he do it to any South American country yeah he could.  So the play appears to be. Putin, Xe I leave you alone for a while you grab what you want. But I want South America and Central America.

Can this happen for 3 years of Trump and 8 years of Vance? don't know, but I think the world is going to see this be attempted.

...

So you think he's going for the title Don before he goes for emperor?

Yeah. He  likes the idea of slapping around weak people and countries.

[Tonimez]

This fight doesn't seem to end anytime soon. It's 11 days to go, yeah sure Bitcoin doesn't seem to break this resistance this year again.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[hypebrother]

I don't know man.

Maybe a tougher opponent for saylor

https://www.instagram.com/deltaexchangein?igsh=MTgweWhwMTlwbWEwdg==

[BTCETFInvestor]

This fight doesn't seem to end anytime soon. It's 11 days to go, yeah sure Bitcoin doesn't seem to break this resistance this year again.

I broke my toe fighting this bear ► https://i.ibb.co/BHhn3WrP/Bear-Fight-Kick.gif 

[BTCETFInvestor]

OOM - That's a very interesting and definitely a complicated story about the woman's stolen horse. Did the woman (the original owner of the horse) decide to give you the horse free of charge because she knew you will take good care for it, and she just wanted to be-done with what had taken place with the horse scammer?

Did you and/or your wife have to testify in open court proceedings?


I've had horses (quarter horses) myself and took great pride in taking good care of them and keeping them healthy. It was  a lot of work and expensive for sure!  

Horse owners are very protective - it never ends well when someone messes with somebody else's horses.

Picture of mother and baby in the pasture on property when I lived in North Carolina.  
   

[JayJuanGee]

......... the korn has not yet reached the right price for me to buy it..

It seems to me that even if several of us are not necessarily waiting for high prices to sell some corn for whatever consumption needs (or wants) that we might have, yet at the same time, there are likely disinclinations for several of us to be inspired to sell corn on the dip, even if we might still be 10x, 20x or more in profits...; remember at current prices, anyone who has average costs of $4,400 or less would be at least 20x in profits... but they still might not want to sell on the dip.

Our current price is pretty much around 30% from the $126k top, and also around flat prices for the whole last year (even though surely we know that the BTC price had not been flat for the whole of last year since we had right around 4 ATH runs in this calendar year.. .January $109k, May $112k, July $123k and October 6, $126k.  Maybe not high in their percentages, but still higher than our $69k jumping off point from the November 2024 Trump pump.. which the BTC price has not (yet) gone below that November 2024 jumping off point which was largely where we were at on November 4, 2024... and go back 2 years, we were pretty much jumping off of $27k in late October 2023.. so it can be difficult to complain for anyone who may have had average costs per corn that are (or were) somehow lower than $27k.  Anyone with corn prices below $27k had likely front-run the institutions (and governments) currently trying to reset the clocks and get lower and lower prices.. and I have my doubts about their getting their way, even though they surely may have some more ammunition that they would like to throw at this situation that those Johnny come lately are trying to deal with.

Well for me it depends a lot on what am I selling it for. Is it something that I need? Do I need it right now or can it wait? Or is it something that I wish to have? I have a pretty good coffee machine, it works really well. A $1.2k fully automated machine is a luxury item that very few people have in their homes, a small percentage of all households. This is obviously a want, and I can postpone selling for this until the price has reached a threshold where the number of corn needed is tiny enough that I am alright with it.

Of course this is different from things that a person truly needs, or there is an an emergency that goes way above the emergency fund. In that case it is understandable that someone is selling.

Yeah but I was suggesting that guys might have had already been in bitcoin for a while and maybe a cycle or two before it would even seem reasonable to consider selling corn... and I was even suggesting that even if a guy were to have already reached enough or more than enough bitcoin, he still might not consider selling at these prices.

Even if a guy had opportunities to buy bitcoin between $16k and $35k between mid-2022 and late 2023, he still might not be inclined to sell coins..and he may still be in his accumulation phase, including at these prices, so why sell from one hand and buy from the other?

So guys could have their various ways of structuring whether they are still accumulating, and even if it might not be clear, if the are still accumulating, they may well have discretionary funds coming in on a periodic basis, whether weekly, monthly or otherwise.

Perhaps guys who accomplished most of their accumulation prior to 2021, then maybe at least they would likely have coin costs below $10k..and maybe those guys consider themselves to no longer be accumulating, even though guys with below $10k costs, might still have had considering (and acted upon) accumulating bitcoin between mid-2022 and late 2023, yet at these prices they might not be accumulating, but they might not be selling either.. so they might be in limbo, even if they have BTC costs that are less than $10k per.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[xhomerx10]

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Hoping his broken hip heals well.

broken hips are no joke. its likely to be a long recovery. make sure he really takes the physical therapy seriously.

My aunt broke her hip last year just before Christmas and passed away just after Christmas.  It is a traumatic injury for anyone but especially the elderly.

Wow, that's a weird coincidence, exact same thing here.

Perhaps you guys are brothers from another mothers without realizing it?

But, now, the clues are coming in.

 There is a greater than zero chance you are correct.  My mother had 2 brothers and 1 sister - one of the brothers has had at least 3 wives and had children and step children some of who I haven't seen since I was a child.  Hey Hueristic, did you by any chance drive a 1969 Plymouth Hemi Road Runner in the iconic "Plum Crazy" colour?  If so, Hey cuz!  I certainly remember you

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[Hueristic]

~snip

Hoping his broken hip heals well.

broken hips are no joke. its likely to be a long recovery. make sure he really takes the physical therapy seriously.

My aunt broke her hip last year just before Christmas and passed away just after Christmas.  It is a traumatic injury for anyone but especially the elderly.

Wow, that's a weird coincidence, exact same thing here.

Perhaps you guys are brothers from another mothers without realizing it?

But, now, the clues are coming in.

 There is a greater than zero chance you are correct.  My mother had 2 brothers and 1 sister - one of the brothers has had at least 3 wives and had children and step children some of who I haven't seen since I was a child.  Hey Hueristic, did you by any chance drive a 1969 Plymouth Hemi Road Runner in the iconic "Plum Crazy" colour?  If so, Hey cuz!  I certainly remember you

Haha, What an Awesome car!

My grandmother had 7 sisters so I've got relatives so far and wide I have no clue who they are!

And that's just on one side.

If so Hey cuz.