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Things are so Wild now that trump getting his sixth oil tanker and sending 500 billion

dollars to his own account in Qatar are not interesting and the markets carry on.
Beware whoever is feeding you this propaganda. Obviously Trump isn’t putting Venezuela oil money in his own account. He put it in a place it can’t be seized. Read up on it. It is actually a genius move, so of course liberals don’t understand it and try to push fake news.

It might be a "genius" move to act outside of the law, yet by definition when a person, entity or government is acting outside of the law then they are engaging in illegal activity that may well rise to the level of criminal activity.

Of course, Trump has been emboldened by the supreme court and some of his other past "successes" (aka ability to get away with it), so he is emboldened to do more and more and more.

What should "we" expect when "we" had elected an already convicted Felon to have the power of granting himself a "get out of jail free" card.

If you have been granted a "get out of jail free" card, then of course, you are gong to use it if you are a person of little to no integrity (and maniacally self-focused) like Trump.

Things are so Wild now that trump getting his sixth oil tanker and sending 500 billion

dollars to his own account in Qatar are not interesting and the markets carry on.
Beware whoever is feeding you this propaganda. Obviously Trump isn’t putting Venezuela oil money in his own account. He put it in a place it can’t be seized. Read up on it. It is actually a genius move, so of course liberals don’t understand it and try to push fake news.
This time I fully agree with you, if they had at least stated $500 million to make it a bit less ridiculous. To claim that he just moved $500 billion to his own account, just like that is as ridiculous as it gets. The bigger the claim is made the more evidence needs to be provided to back it up. This is standard misinformation.

You are correct about that.  Extraordinary claims deserve extraordinary evidence - yet at the same time, the number does not have to be correct in order for some aspect of the underlying claim to be correct.

Many of us recall some assertions that Venezuela may have had more than 600k bitcoin under their control at the time of the questionably lawful removal of Maduro, which is truly unlikely to be the case that they had that many bitcoin, even though it could be possible that they had some bitcoin, even possibly several thousand bitcoin..

By the way, we have already witnessed a whole hell-of-a-lot of ways that Trump (and his administration) has acted in extra-legal ways (or "creatively" pushing limits on legal standards), so it is not unreasonable to consider various extra-legal ways that Trump continues to act - including that he loves to be seen as a guy who is both pushing limits and even breaking new precedent, whether you consider that to be a better way of government or not. and/or whether you believe that those powers exist (or should exist) within the executive of the USA or not.
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may get stuck if tree falls on the trap doors

i would make sure to have hydraulic hand or electic powered jacks, (battery ?) chainsaws and some other stuff to bust our way out if that happens

Just put some kool-aid in there and you’ll be fine.



wasnt it flavor aid? cuz cheaper? lol

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How is this the Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion board with all the non-BTC related shit?  Huh
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January 17, 2026, 12:14:56 AM

Absolutely amazing! The only thing I would add is maybe another exit… in the event something lands on the cover…it’s his coffin. 😝

It looks very good, but it's far from providing security considering it's in the middle of the forest and the solar panels give away that there's something underneath. Trotters were decades ahead of these solutions; instead of going to shelters, they built one on the roof of their building Cheesy

Jay had a good idea of a shed as a decoy for the solar panels … and Phil said a secondary air source which could be a vent out the roof of the shed. The second exit could be a trap door in the shed with covert pipe connecting the two places.
 I’m not familiar with trotters but will look into them when I get a chance. 😎

You'd need a lot more solar panels (and batteries) than shown in the video. Hard to hide.
Best solution would be multiple hydropower generators in a nearby underground stream which carries enough liters per second to get enough power. Combine that with geothermic heating. One would also like to have a disperser/de-humidifyer to cool and de-vaporize exhaust air, to not be detected by infrared scanners too easily.
Honestly, i also doubt that the clay in the wall between the wood boards beneath the earth will be enough. The moisture will likely destroy the wood over time. There has to be some sturdy, vapor-tight layer between the soil and the wooden construction.
I don't want to go into the many details, but if you plan well and clever, a shelter like the one in the video could work.
Regardless of all flaws, the idea is really great  Cool

if i were to ever build something it likely would be a 40 foot container.

dig out a proper hole for the container.

line the bottom of the with three layers of pond fabric. put in a reinforced concrete pad

line the hole side and the bottom pad with three layers of pond fabric.

drop in the container push the pond fabric against the container by dumping gravel all around the container.

lay three layers of pond fabric on top on the container. cover with gravel


 put a shed on top with a trap door into the container.



It's been done and the container gets crushed, you need to use a quonsett hut.

I know you know what that is. Wink
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Things are so Wild now that trump getting his sixth oil tanker and sending 500 billion

dollars to his own account in Qatar
are not interesting and the markets carry on.



Phil - What in hell are you saying? That Trump is taking money from the sale of the tanker oil and putting it in a personal overseas account in Qatar?   Shocked  

What kind of crazy rumors or conspiracy theories are you taking a part in?

Financial dealings of political figures, especially with Donald Trump are closely scrutinized, and if such a situation as you say is real, it would be widely reported and investigated.



 Most people don’t realize that Obama repealed the Smith Mundt act of 1948 making it legal for the government too propagandize the people! They are all being misled and will eventually fall for everything the legacy media says.

https://x.com/NeedACoffeUSA/status/1967403917807133180

 We are in very dangerous times…


I had to fact check this but was too lazy to do anything but check with a llm.

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Short answer: No — that claim is misleading and largely false.
Here’s the precise, factual breakdown.

What actually happened
1. The Smith–Mundt Act (1948) was not repealed

The U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 (Smith–Mundt) was amended, not repealed.

The amendment was the Smith–Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, signed by President Obama as part of the NDAA for FY2013.

2. What the original 1948 law did

Smith–Mundt:

Authorized the U.S. government to produce information for foreign audiences (e.g., Voice of America).

Restricted domestic distribution of those materials, mainly to prevent the government from competing with private media inside the U.S.

It did not ban the U.S. government from communicating with Americans or engaging in persuasion generally.

3. What the 2012 modernization actually changed

The 2012 amendment:

Allowed materials already produced for foreign audiences to be made available domestically upon request

Did not authorize new domestic propaganda campaigns

Did not permit targeting U.S. citizens with covert psychological operations

Did not override other laws that prohibit government deception, misuse of funds, or abuse of authority

Key point:

It removed an access restriction, not a behavioral restriction.

Americans can now see what the government is saying abroad, which many transparency advocates supported.
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January 17, 2026, 12:23:33 AM
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How is this the Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion board with all the non-BTC related shit?  Huh

If you had not realized, thoughts (or fantasies?) that touch upon something like bunker survival happens to be more related to the ideas of bitcoin, financial sovereignty and this thread as compared with your pumping of dumbass paper bitcoin ideas, which seem to be playing out as vehicles of attack in relation to the self-sovereignty and choice ideas of normal bitcoiner peeps.

Yes, many of us already knew that the financialization of bitcoin was inevitably in bitcoin's adoption path and growth, so in some sense, there is nothing wrong with various aspects of bitcoin's becoming more and more financialized to the extent that underlying value aspects of bitcoin are not squelched.

Even various Trace Mayer presentations around bitcoin's network effects in 2014 and thereafter had included financialization being involved in bitcoin's ongoing adoption and one of the seven network effects that he had outlined.

Of course, number go up does also provide more options for individuals who might have spent the last 8-ish years investing into bitcoin with $200 per week, so by now someone who had invested 8-ish years in bitcoin at $200 per week would have had invested around $84k and accumulated around 5.5 BTC.. so such persons may well consider themselves to have had been doing quite well with their bitcoin investment and perhaps even on their way to reaching some variation of fuck you status within their own calculations of the matter.. even if they might consider that they might have to wait a few more years to cross over into their official threshold definition of fuck you status, perhaps even needing to wait a whole cycle (to the extent cycles still exist?) more to build up their bitcoin holdings with maybe a hope of reaching somewhere between 6 and 6.5 BTC in the next 4-ish years (that is if they keep buying at around the same rate of $200 per week or maybe they adjust their regular investment amount), yet it still is optional for them to keep buying or just to potentially wait out the next 4-ish years based on the 5.5 BTC that they had already accumulated.

It is hard to know what any guy might choose to do in regards to continuing to accumulate or maybe consider that he has transitioned into more of a maintenance status, depending on how aggressive he might have had been in his bitcoin accumulation in light of his own financial and psychological circumstances.  

None of the guys who had spent time accumulating bitcoin would want number go up to become a trap or to be clothed in fakety-fake, which might be part of what is going on with some of the paper bitcoin products.  So, there surely would be preferences that bitcoin's growth is based on real underlying empowerment that comes through direct ownership of bitcoin, even if maybe some guys might end up dabbling their own finances in both paper bitcoin and in the real and direct holding of actual bitcoin.

If everyone were to move over to paper bitcoin, then it seems likely that bitcoin would lose much of its value, since it would not necessarily be distinguishable from any other third-party custodied and manipulated crap.

Have you ever heard of fakety fake?  Yeah, I know.. a bit of a rhetorical question given your so far posting history in these here parts.  You still have not even figured out how actual bitcoin empowers and brings value to bitcoin and to individuals involved in bitcoin.
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When does the dude give us a photo of where am I?

Phil - You never said what you mean by this...

Do you actually want someone to post a photo of where you live? That may not be too smart, but you've said you have a one-of-a kind name in the entire world, so...
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When does the dude give us a photo of where am I?

Phil - You never said what you mean by this...

Do you actually want someone to post a photo of where you live? That may not be too smart, but you've said you have a one-of-a kind name in the entire world, so...

the dude is not me.

the dude runs contests with photos and asks where is the dude.
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When does the dude give us a photo of where am I?

Phil - You never said what you mean by this...

Do you actually want someone to post a photo of where you live? That may not be too smart, but you've said you have a one-of-a kind name in the entire world, so...

the dude is not me.

the dude runs contests with photos and asks where is the dude.

DUDE!

let him do his own research on this thread and maybe then he will learn something.
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When does the dude give us a photo of where am I?

Phil - You never said what you mean by this...

Do you actually want someone to post a photo of where you live? That may not be too smart, but you've said you have a one-of-a kind name in the entire world, so...

the dude is not me.

the dude runs contests with photos and asks where is the dude.

DUDE!

let him do his own research on this thread and maybe then he will learn something.

@Hueristic - Am I supposed to just automatically know 'the dude' is someone like Trevor Rainbolt, the TikToker who identifies locations by what's in photos?
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When does the dude give us a photo of where am I?

Phil - You never said what you mean by this...

Do you actually want someone to post a photo of where you live? That may not be too smart, but you've said you have a one-of-a kind name in the entire world, so...

the dude is not me.

the dude runs contests with photos and asks where is the dude.

DUDE!

let him do his own research on this thread and maybe then he will learn something.

@Hueristic - Am I supposed to just automatically know 'the dude' is someone like Trevor Rainbolt, the TikToker who identifies locations by what's in photos?

Dude
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may get stuck if tree falls on the trap doors

i would make sure to have hydraulic hand or electic powered jacks, (battery ?) chainsaws and some other stuff to bust our way out if that happens

Just put some kool-aid in there and you’ll be fine.



wasnt it flavor aid? cuz cheaper? lol



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Things are so Wild now that trump getting his sixth oil tanker and sending 500 billion

dollars to his own account in Qatar
are not interesting and the markets carry on.



Phil - What in hell are you saying? That Trump is taking money from the sale of the tanker oil and putting it in a personal overseas account in Qatar?   Shocked  

What kind of crazy rumors or conspiracy theories are you taking a part in?

Financial dealings of political figures, especially with Donald Trump are closely scrutinized, and if such a situation as you say is real, it would be widely reported and investigated.



 Most people don’t realize that Obama repealed the Smith Mundt act of 1948 making it legal for the government too propagandize the people! They are all being misled and will eventually fall for everything the legacy media says.

https://x.com/NeedACoffeUSA/status/1967403917807133180

 We are in very dangerous times…


I had to fact check this but was too lazy to do anything but check with a llm.

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Short answer: No — that claim is misleading and largely false.
Here’s the precise, factual breakdown.

What actually happened
1. The Smith–Mundt Act (1948) was not repealed

The U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 (Smith–Mundt) was amended, not repealed.

The amendment was the Smith–Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, signed by President Obama as part of the NDAA for FY2013.

2. What the original 1948 law did

Smith–Mundt:

Authorized the U.S. government to produce information for foreign audiences (e.g., Voice of America).

Restricted domestic distribution of those materials, mainly to prevent the government from competing with private media inside the U.S.

It did not ban the U.S. government from communicating with Americans or engaging in persuasion generally.

3. What the 2012 modernization actually changed

The 2012 amendment:

Allowed materials already produced for foreign audiences to be made available domestically upon request

Did not authorize new domestic propaganda campaigns

Did not permit targeting U.S. citizens with covert psychological operations

Did not override other laws that prohibit government deception, misuse of funds, or abuse of authority

Key point:

It removed an access restriction, not a behavioral restriction.

Americans can now see what the government is saying abroad, which many transparency advocates supported.


“It also gives the federal government great power to covertly influence public opinion”  
 

https://northwesternlawreview.org/issues/apple-pie-propaganda-the-smith-mundt-act-before-and-after-the-repeal-of-the-domestic-dissemination-ban/


Below is a video explaining the Smith Mundt act “modernization”
 I love how the act is soooo modern… plus I never believe “fact checker” who are probably financed by NGO’s 😝

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3sziHn9p_s


“Upon request” is simply more red tape that buys time while they do what they want imho

Disclaimer: I’m bullish on Digital Gold Bitcoin….physical Gold…physical silver…physical Food and shelter 😝




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 -I thought that at the end of the video, there would be a kind of secret compartment ,
inside the hole he made, where he would hide his hardware-wallet,
 but I didn't see any of that... False advertising!!   Cheesy



 -In addition to the solar panels giving away the 'secret place',
... two of these slabs do not produce 1k Watt/hour,
 you cannot running an air conditioning, refrigerator, TV, lights and etc,
 much less a water pump to drain, if it starts to fill with water...
> These plates are under the shade of the trees, how do photons capture?.

...
 If I had my land in the countryside, just as I have wanted to have it for a long time,
 but a long time has passed and I don't have it, I would have a tool house,
 and inside that house, I would build a well about 30 meters deep
 to take water for general use,
 but at the height of about 10, 15 meters, I would make a secret door,
 that horizontally would take me to a secret room, an emergency exit
 that would lead to another seriously necessary point,
 and there I would keep my keys... but there would be another secret place there,
...
... and so I thought it was in this video, but it wasn't, I was a little disappointed...
 I didn't see him keeping his harware-wallet.... Cry

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The agency said its rating reflects “persistent gaps in disclosure” and the expansion of riskier exposures across the reserve portfolio. These assets include Bitcoin, gold, secured loans, corporate bonds, and other investments that carry credit, market, interest-rate, and foreign-exchange risks.

S&P also pointed to weaknesses in transparency around reserve management, the absence of asset segregation if Tether becomes insolvent, and limitations around USDT’s primary redemption mechanisms

Back to Tether FUD, just now more smart sounding and from an institution instead of random
people on Reddit? We are in this phase of the market? Bullish!  Grin It always comes back.


Money FUD

 Tnether and other in'Stable-coins' are just the tip of the iceberg,
 or the artificial tip they put on top of the iceberg, no, better, or worse yet,
 these stable-coins are a clown's hat on top of the tip of the iceberg,

 while bitcoin is backed by bitcoin, bitcoin is energy and
 electronic products used to produce it (software include at this item), and internet,
 These three items and their aggregates are the backing of Bitcoin,
 chip-boards have silver and gold, so Bitcoin is also backed by silver and Gold,
 and if silver and gold is rising, and Bitcoin is also backed by Gold... BlaBlaBlahh...

...Of course, each thing in its own time...


If a ruler wants to validate a law from 10000 years before Christ, he validates it and still says that it was the will of the people, and the people will applaud, a part will be angry, of course, as there always has been.

#
 The video/animation also has some more details that shocked me,
like in the beginning, I also work with wood,
 and I know that some impossible things happened when he cut the top in the trunk doing an 'Door',...than he catch  up, and inside was previous made, and already in the next scene,
 the hole that had been previously made before he cut the lid, was suddenly
 full of earth and he was removing it with the shovel ... Huh
 
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