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January 20, 2026, 08:12:52 PM
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It's no secret that Trumps favor can be bought.
What is a president called if his favor can be bought?

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US president??

They are all bought into office in the first place... that's the whole point

the country isn't important.
So what do you call a politician that can be bought?


That's just a standard politician. You can put any name you want to it, but that doesn't change the fact that almost any politician can be bought...

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vapourminer beat me to it...


Why you're beating around the bush?
Even google AI knows it: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+is+a+politician+called+that+can+be+bought%253F

Oh, by the way: https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-donald-trump-impeachment-25th-amendment-11384974

EDIT: I could also ask by which playbook of a famous politician Trump seems to act. Would you know the answer or distract from it? No offense, by the way. To each his own opinion.

I wonder who did these jobs in the 70s and 80s....

I find it kind of funny when people bitch about how things cost more due to deporting all the "immigrants". Technically this is what it costs when you don't use slaves. And yeah they were paid sub minimum wages, ripped off regularly, and had no real recourse in courts and whatnot. So at best leased slaves.


Correct. I think it's called "wage slavery"?
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January 20, 2026, 08:16:54 PM

How many times will that failed party try this? They have nothing better to do..except failed impeachment calls and redefining what a woman is?
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January 20, 2026, 08:18:28 PM
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Delusional is telling the person who has been right about this market that they have delusions while you’re sitting on year over year losses… I do applaud the self confidence around here though. I would honestly be embarrassed if I had bashed the guy who told me to sell the top and continued to do so, even after a 37% correction in the following weeks proved him right.

As always Og, the question is "sell for what"? Dollars? Hell they are becoming the new Peso.

Gold? Sure, hey I remember doing that a number of years ago to "diversify'. And you know what? When Gold hits 80k I might break even with Bitcoin. I'm sure that will happen any day now.

Point is you sell if you need some money or stuff right now. Otherwise just HODL.

It's not like they are making more of em. (Well, more than 3.25 coins every 10 minutes)
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January 20, 2026, 08:18:41 PM

F.U.D.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/greenland-pm-tells-people-prepare-162519127.html

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Greenland PM Tells People to Prepare for Possible Invasion(Bloomberg) -- Greenland’s prime minister said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, even as it remains an unlikely scenario, as President Donald Trump continues to threaten taking over the territory.

“It’s not likely there will be a military conflict, but it can’t be ruled out,” Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said at a press conference in capital Nuuk on Tuesday.


I just pour myself some vodka.

Please do not take it out on Norway for not giving Trump the peace prize.

https://us.cnn.com/2026/01/19/europe/trump-norway-nobel-prize-snub-intl


Trump ties failure to win Nobel Peace Prize to efforts to acquire Greenland in message to Norway



Anyone want me to pour them a shot of vodka.

Venezuela
Greenland
Cuba
Diego García.


who's next?
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January 20, 2026, 08:21:29 PM

How many times will that failed party try this? They have nothing better to do..except failed impeachment calls and redefining what a woman is?

Point is the Republican party is 100% on board with everything Trump is doing down to a T. They are totally behind him being in charge and have/will do nothing to stop any of his whims.

It's not like we didn't know this is what we were voting for because he literally told us this is what he would do. No surprise.
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January 20, 2026, 08:24:06 PM

I wonder who did these jobs in the 70s and 80s....

I find it kind of funny when people bitch about how things cost more due to deporting all the "immigrants". Technically this is what it costs when you don't use slaves. And yeah they were paid sub minimum wages, ripped off regularly, and had no real recourse in courts and whatnot. So at best leased slaves.

Correct. I think it's called "wage slavery"?

I always considered a “wage slave” to be anyone who was forced to work a job in order to pay for their bills (no investments, savings, etc.) without another possibility to provide for themselves. A much wider group. I don’t think slavery is determined by the wage amount, but the necessity for that wage.


Point is you sell if you need some money or stuff right now. Otherwise just HODL.

This is where you and I disagree. I think people should sell the tops and establish enough income that they will never need to sell again and can be a constant buyer. Being in a position where you are forced to sell at a loss (like many will find themselves later this year) is what will destroy an individual’s Bitcoin holdings.
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How many times will that failed party try this? They have nothing better to do..except failed impeachment calls and redefining what a woman is?
Point is the Republican party is 100% on board with everything Trump is doing down to a T. They are totally behind him being in charge and have/will do nothing to stop any of his whims.

It's not like we didn't know this is what we were voting for because he literally told us this is what he would do. No surprise.
Of course they are, he is practically in charge of it right now. I mean just look back to the primary. He said he would not appear because he does not have to, he did not appear at it and he basically destroyed the other republican candidates in the votes. I looked for a fun quote about that. Prime Trump.  Grin
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“Why would I allow people at 1 or 2% and 0% to be hitting me with questions all night?” he said in an interview in June with Fox News host Bret Baier, who will be serving as a moderator
I think a lot more people are tired of political insincerity and hypocrisy than most realize, across all sides of the spectrum. If Trump was not as crazy and unhinged as he is, he would have much wider support because of that. Enough of the never ending lying, we are doing this because of democracy or the others are bad when they do this but our allies are good when they do the same thing. Hiding all kinds of corruption under the rug to keep the powers that be.

He has support for being more direct with the speech, even if he has issues with lying too but which politician doesn't? They didn't say we are bringing democracy to Venezuela or invent terrorists to create a precedent, they said the want the oil and so they came. It is refreshing for a change, putting aside whether they are doing the right thing or not.
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January 20, 2026, 08:34:10 PM

I wonder who did these jobs in the 70s and 80s....

I find it kind of funny when people bitch about how things cost more due to deporting all the "immigrants". Technically this is what it costs when you don't use slaves. And yeah they were paid sub minimum wages, ripped off regularly, and had no real recourse in courts and whatnot. So at best leased slaves.

Correct. I think it's called "wage slavery"?

I always considered a “wage slave” to be anyone who was forced to work a job in order to pay for their bills (no investments, savings, etc.) without another possibility to provide for themselves. A much wider group. I don’t think slavery is determined by the wage amount, but the necessity for that wage.

Yes, you added valid details here.
I think when you do sub-minimum wage work in order to pay your bills, you're that too, but you're also not isolated in the bigger group.


Point is the Republican party is 100% on board with everything Trump is doing down to a T. They are totally behind him being in charge and have/will do nothing to stop any of his whims.

It's not like we didn't know this is what we were voting for because he literally told us this is what he would do. No surprise.

So far.
When shit hits the fan, nobody wants to be responsible for not taking countermeasure, even Reps. You don't need many. That's democracy, too.
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So far.
When shit hits the fan, nobody wants to be responsible for not taking countermeasure, even Reps. You don't need many. That's democracy, too.
He didn't really do anything that crazy yet, unless you think that speaking a bit unhinged and playing around with Tariffs is crazy.  Grin
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January 20, 2026, 08:53:56 PM

So I opened my box of chocolates.

I have a glass of vodka

And a leg of slow roasted turkey.

With a side of ice tea

Early dinner for me.



Maybe early bed
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It's no secret that Trumps favor can be bought.
What is a president called if his favor can be bought?

...


US president??

They are all bought into office in the first place... that's the whole point

the country isn't important.
So what do you call a politician that can be bought?


That's just a standard politician. You can put any name you want to it, but that doesn't change the fact that almost any politician can be bought...

Edit:
vapourminer beat me to it...


Why you're beating around the bush?
Even google AI knows it: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+is+a+politician+called+that+can+be+bought%253F

Oh, by the way: https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-donald-trump-impeachment-25th-amendment-11384974

EDIT: I could also ask by which playbook of a famous politician Trump seems to act. Would you know the answer or distract from it? No offense, by the way. To each his own opinion.


You asked, I answered honestly... two times btw!  Don't be sad if the answer doesn't fit your narrative, or your wish to win an argument.
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January 20, 2026, 09:26:45 PM
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So I opened my box of chocolates.

I have a glass of vodka

And a leg of slow roasted turkey.

With a side of ice tea

Early dinner for me.

ill have a toke for ya

munchies all night
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January 20, 2026, 09:36:09 PM

That fat orange gimp and his tariffs ruining Bitcoin once again.

I’m not in the US but if I was I would have voted Republican. Trump has been an unmitigated disaster for Bitcoin though. His ridiculous tariffs and mood swings have really screwed us.

You got me.., I mean the humor of it, with "that fat orange gimp" hahahahahahaha That's a good one. I am likely not as sympathetic, even to Trump's beginning in this term, when he was talking so BIG about his various bitcoin (crypto) plans, even though the bitcoin market did get an initial pump that was related to what it was considering the potential impact of Trump to be upon his having had gotten elected.

To me it seems that Trump needs a wee bit (if not a lot?) of denigration, and it is not merely based on how the BTC price has performed but instead Trump's ongoing seemingly uncontrolled outrageousness - yet those things were largely known before the November 2024 election - and for sure, a lot of folks did not really realize how dangerous it is to elect a narcissistic and vindictive convicted criminal into such a position of power and then expect him to show some level of honesty and/or self-constrain. 

To give the electorate some kind of excuse for its likely stupidity in choosing Trump, since the USA is such a two parties only state, there was not any meaningful alternative - even the fact that the parties choose their candidates in a quasi-private kind of way that merely has the appearance of public accountability, so even if the Republican party might not have had too much of a choice based on how much momentum Trump was getting early in the primaries, the Democratic party's bet that Kamala was going to be a viable candidate ended up showing itself as a strategic blunder and maybe they did not even know what to do with Biden, either.. so maybe Biden had ended up contributing to the screw up of the democratic party when they thought that they could just inject Kamala into their side and expect that it was going to be enough to overcome Trump's then ongoing momentum that was even becoming more and more apparent, even several months before the election when Kamala was inserted into the position of running against him.

And, don't get me wrong, I don't even think the "taking him out" stories really add up, and surely Trump is a great actor when his ear was supposedly clipped by a supposed bullet.

Yeah, but it is a good time to be adding coin. There is  still over 18trillion in gold and silver profits that will want to go somewhere.
With Trump playing the tariff man the dollar is less attractive to park profits.

I look forward to metal money coming to BTC soon.
and soon could be April ,May, June of this year.

March would be better - for reasons.

I would be embarrassed to be an American right now.
It is a bit amazing how you guys don't understand that you are being played.

And even though he's done it hundreds of times in the role of President at this point and has even written, I imagine fairly overrated books about this technique.  People all just dance like marionettes every time.
This user even wrote about it, and still you play into Trump's hand. I mean he even has his own book Art of the Deal although other books are probably better about what he is doing. Will be funny to see what the next oh no he didn't thing that he comes up. Orange man bad!  Grin

Surely some folks love Trump no matter what he does and perhaps even expected various extreme and quasi-unpredictable actions in regards to Trump being elected as with some sort of mandate to "disrupt."

It seems that at that at the same time, even Trump lovers should have some abilities to employ some critical thinking skills in regards to things that he does.. or is it that all things that Trump does must be good, since Trump is doing them?

I suppose anyone who trusts another person (even a convicted criminal) will give them benefits of the doubt based on having that trust, even though surely anyone questioning trump is presumed to be a trump hater (or to have Trump derangement syndrome) merely based on their questioning Trump  - and surely even with TDS, there are likely degrees of it.  There should be a value in questioning persons in positions of power, yet I suppose if there are desires that such persons become omnipotent, then maybe there are values that such person is not questioned about anything that they do. 

For those who love Trump no matter what, is there any limitation that you expect that could be or should be placed on him? 

For those who want Trump to have more and more and more power, should we consider the historical checks and balances within the American governmental systems to be outdated and no longer needed?
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January 20, 2026, 09:37:04 PM

So what do you call a politician that can be bought?

a politician

Reminds me of:

How do you know that a politician is lying?

His/her lips are moving.
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Surely some folks love Trump no matter what he does and perhaps even expected various extreme and quasi-unpredictable actions in regards to Trump being elected as with some sort of mandate to "disrupt."

It seems that at that at the same time, even Trump lovers should have some abilities to employ some critical thinking skills in regards to things that he does.. or is it that all things that Trump does must be good, since Trump is doing them?

I suppose anyone who trusts another person (even a convicted criminal) will give them benefits of the doubt based on having that trust, even though surely anyone questioning trump is presumed to be a trump hater (or to have Trump derangement syndrome) merely based on their questioning Trump  - and surely even with TDS, there are likely degrees of it.  There should be a value in questioning persons in positions of power, yet I suppose if there are desires that such persons become omnipotent, then maybe there are values that such person is not questioned about anything that they do.  
Nobody is saying that what he is doing is objectively good or that he is using the best strategy possible to do it, it is more that his strategy has been obvious for some time and still people are playing right into his hands. Every time he does the same thing with another subject, people start speculating on reasoning including stuff that it is because he is senile and they get upset and such.

As far as the convicted criminal part is concerned, looking at the state of the justice system in the US and Europe that is meaningless these days. Many heavy criminals are not convicted because they have connections with the higher ups or for other reasons, and on the other hand you can get convinced for saying something mean online in some countries. With the state of things being like this, it should come to no surprise that most people don't care that some court in New York or wherever convicted Trump on some class whatever bullshit? If he gets convicted for something that almost nobody else does even when they engage in the same thing, and definitely not someone rich and famous then it is a witch trial not worth thinking about.

As free speech continues to get criminalized, most of us will be criminals.

For those who love Trump no matter what, is there any limitation that you expect that could be or should be placed on him?  

For those who want Trump to have more and more and more power, should we consider the historical checks and balances within the American governmental systems to be outdated and no longer needed?
He's doing a lot of things in way that I would not want to be done, or some things that I would not like to have done at all. If you think about it, even if he campaigned as pro Bitcoin and did a lot of things that advanced that position he also did a lot of things that hurt Bitcoin in 2025. Let's see what 2026 will bring.
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Didn't anyone go outside last night?  The show was unbelievable.  Even the Aussies got to see it.  It's apparently still happening but still cloudy here and snowing.

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Signs in the heavenlies.

Also not fond of this recent push, I think we just broke support.  I'm thinking we need to jump up pretty quick back to the low 90s or 75 might be in the cards. I hate it, but that's kind of what it looks like.
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