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March 04, 2026, 10:53:43 PM
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"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."
^this is so ridiculous...especially the offline part. It is not the damned computer, lol.

Say...employee "accidentally" copied the private key(s) somehow.
Does this, wallet being "offline", really helps in this scenario?
Of course, not.

Multisig helps, of course, as long as parts or a whole of the multisig is not on someones phones/computers.
Employees are not to be trusted..as data periodically leaks from almost everywhere.
@Biodom - Since you seem to think you know more than the SEC and these multi-TRILLION dollar financial firms; have you to tried contacting them to teach them what you think about that?
I think the SEC AND THESE MULTI-TRILLION DOLLAR FINANCIAL FIRMS ABSOLUTELY KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOU!!!  Dontcha kinda think?

You are retarded BTCETFInvestor.

You are not even grappling with one of the potential issues presented by Biodom.

Morgan Stanley operates in 42 countries, Blackrock operates in over 100 countries, and Fidelity operates in over 25 countries. The combined assets managed by Morgan Stanley, BlackRock, and Fidelity total approximately $23 trillion.

Don't you think they all might know more than little ole you?  Roll Eyes  Damn right they do! You don't know shit compared to them!

A pretty lame appeal to authority from someone who does not even own an actual satoshi.


"We" had 4 ATHs in 2025 - January $109k, May $112k, July $123k and October $126,272.

An interesting year.  That's for sure.

well 73k+ is better than a 59.8k dip
and it qualifies as day 1 of a new bull run if we can stay above 72k.

Which would crush the 4 year cycle pattern for once and for all.
Of course it may be a bull trap and the worst is yet to come (OgNasty belief system)
My 4-year cycle belief system is a gauge to sell, but that time has passed and was proven to be astonishingly accurate.  

You are showing your ongoing inability to learn - even though you may well could have had been able to extract some short term dollars out of whatever amount of BTC that you were able to buy and then sell to get short-term dollar gains.  Perhaps in this cycle you were able to get 3x to 5x gains, yet surely someone in your position could have had been practically sitting on 6,000x gains (referring to the average cost of $10 per coin between mid 2011 and early 2013) by merely shaving off a few coins here and there along the way.

Instead you are blind and you are bragging, and so far at most there has been a 50% drop in the BTC price that might have had brought your previous 12,000x gains down to 6,000x.

I have trouble fantasizing regarding how you could possibly be in a better position for having sold most if not all of any corn that you might have had, even if you are feeling some gumption to be temporarily on the right side of a trade  - a trade that you seem to have not even completed, yet you want to gloat about it.. ..

By the way, I do recognize your ongoing short-sighted vision in that you are even stating that you believe that you completed the trade since you got your 3x to 5x dollar profits from the BTC that you had purchased, yet you are again going to be shown to be short-sighted based on your consideration that getting short-term dollars was the "trade to be achieved."

In other words, you seem to be a lost little puppy, even though at the moment, you are gloating about profits for ants, relatively speaking.

It should be noted that I am a super-bull who is regularly buying Bitcoin

No you are not. You dumb twat.

If you were a super-bull, you would not be fucking around trying to trade one of the best, if not the best of, investment assets known to mankind that is available for investment to anyone and everyone as long as they have discretionary funds.

selling silver for Bitcoin, making eloquent thought out forum posts for Bitcoin, and expect that we see a new all time high in but a few short years.  I don't recommend that people ever sell Bitcoin except in every fourth year: 2013, 2017, 2021, 2025, 2029, etc.

How did that work out for you?  Not too good.

You could have had way more than 200 BTC without hardly any sweat off of your back, and instead you are fucking around with somewhere in the ballpark of 20 BTC.  Hard to imagine how your current situation is better than the situation you could have had been in if you had not been fucking around trying to trade the seemingly current best asset known to mankind.

So I am in fact a buyer currently (unlike JJG who will sell off 4% of his stack this year),

I could sell up to 10% per year of the 200-WMA value and with a 7% increase in the dollar amount per year.  That is one of the advantages of reaching overaccumulation status.  Admittedly, if the BTC prices are below 25% above the 200-WMA, then I have reductions in my sell formula if I were attempting to max out such sell formula. I did mention regarding myself, I have a couple of sub accounts in which I am selling around 4% per year on those accounts, yet perhaps those accounts have been serving as test of concept more than anything, even though surely the recipients of the BTC do seem to be grateful in receiving the BTC, to the extent that they might choose (on a monthly-ish basis) to convert out of BTC or not is up to them.

By the way, I have the disadvantage of coming to bitcoin right around 2.5 years later than you, so surely there were likely quite a few disadvantages in going through my earliest stages of BTC accumulation during a time that was 2.5 years later than you, even though you are proclaiming ignorance of the BTC cycles until 201-ish.. hahahahahaha.. What a retard who is talking out of both sides of his mouth to be proclaiming that he is a bitcoin trading expert for nearly 15 years and also an overall financial expert for 28-ish years.  Who would have had thunk that such a self-described financial expert guy is currently a self-selected low coiner or close to no coiner contemplating other places to put his dollars (rather than putting it back into dee cornz)?

have been for several months, and plan to be for another couple of years even though I do expect we will see the cycle bottom in Q3 of this year.  Can I be back in the cool kids club now?

For sure, you are not a cool kid, since in other posts, you have waffled in regards to whether you are even buying back, and the mere fact that you might have gotten part of a trade right (to the extent that any of us can actually believe half the things that you proclaim), a trade in bitcoin is not completed merely by selling all of your corn - which you are already trying to proclaim victory based on your having had sold most if not all of your corn.  Not too many of the longer term bitcoiners would agree with that even though there seem to be some of the guys actively participating in this thread (besides uie-pooie) who said that they sold somewhere in the ballpark of 10% to 25% of their BTC holdings - even though many times guys do not necessarily disclose or even get into the particulars of how they might have had executed such BTC sales.

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I guess if you can figure out who's in charge of the Cool Kids Club, I don't know anything about it. I think it's fine out here.

The cool kids club is a figment of OgNasty's imagination, and perhaps even a group of folks that he made up so he can ongoingly carry out his strawman arguments against everyone who is supposedly "against him."  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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It seems we have been graced with a pump. Or as JayJuanGee would say: a pump.

That one flew over my head.

Try reading it again but in the voice of a brilliant deadpan comedian like Leslie Nielsen or Steven Wright.
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"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."
^this is so ridiculous...especially the offline part. It is not the damned computer, lol.

Say...employee "accidentally" copied the private key(s) somehow.
Does this, wallet being "offline", really helps in this scenario?
Of course, not.

Multisig helps, of course, as long as parts or a whole of the multisig is not on someones phones/computers.
Employees are not to be trusted..as data periodically leaks from almost everywhere.

@Biodom - Since you seem to think you know more than the SEC and these multi-TRILLION dollar financial firms; have you to tried contacting them to teach them what you think about that?
I think the SEC AND THESE MULTI-TRILLION DOLLAR FINANCIAL FIRMS ABSOLUTELY KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOU!!!  Dontcha kinda think?

You are retarded BTCETFInvestor.

You are not even grappling with one of the potential issues presented by Biodom.

Morgan Stanley operates in 42 countries, Blackrock operates in over 100 countries, and Fidelity operates in over 25 countries. The combined assets managed by Morgan Stanley, BlackRock, and Fidelity total approximately $23 trillion.

Don't you think they all might know more than little ole you?  Roll Eyes  Damn right they do! You don't know shit compared to them!




Here Biodom & JJG - Both of you are ignorant!

Based on reports, Morgan Stanley plans to store Bitcoin for its investment products using a combination of institutional custodians, rather than managing the private keys themselves; let alone a standard, user-level, multisig, setup.

Here are the key details regarding how Morgan Stanley approaches Bitcoin custody:
Custody Partners: Morgan Stanley has appointed Coinbase Custody and BNY (Bank of New York Mellon) to manage the, custody, of Bitcoin for its, proposed, spot, Bitcoin, ETF,.

Institutional Security: The, custodial, services, are, designed, to, meet, strict, financial, standards, involving, robust, digital, asset, infrastructure.

Active Expansion: Morgan Stanley is, building, out, its, own, regulated, infrastructure, and, has, applied, for, a, trust, bank, charter, to, potentially, directly, hold, digital, assets.

Focus on Security: While they are not using a retail-style, multisig, wallet, the institutional custodians employed use advanced, security, measures such as secure, cold storage to safeguard assets.
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March 05, 2026, 12:59:18 AM

not easy to be perfectly safe from theft.

but you could separate wallets and silo 10,000 coins in each wallet

which could be pretty safe but no way do we know if it is done. that way
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I don't think you know what cold storage means, really.

Ask nicely and maybe someone here would explain why "cold storage" could be compromised.
I would just quote Satoshi:

“If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.”

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this is how it looks like when someone who knows nothing about Bitcoin and self custody prompts meaningless AI shit

It's astounding how people think they don't need to know anything to take part in a discussion...


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I don't think you know what cold storage means, really.

Ask nicely and maybe someone here would explain why "cold storage" could be compromised.

Here’s a great YouTube video on it. I think the name comes from frozen assets.
https://youtube.com/shorts/7eOy6rRJieU

“I’m not very liquid right now.”

I’m here all cycle folks. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.
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Pretty good, thanks.

That said, without having a long history of this asset, no one knows if the stability would continue for a long time period.

STRC already had two dips to around 92-93 and 94-95 areas.
Yes, it recovered, but this is an unhealthy volatility for a "money market" equivalent.
IF Fidelity or Vanguard money market would suddenly plunge that much (I am not predicting anything like this), hundreds of billions would be immediately withdrawn
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this is how it looks like when someone who knows nothing about Bitcoin and self custody prompts meaningless AI shit

It's astounding how people think they don't need to know anything to take part in a discussion...


-there are several AI detectors, I just read it I already see the coherence,
 I don't even need to, but, I would like to know a detector that detects which AI was used.
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Could you explain this part in bold?

"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."

What is the difference between being offline and being disconnected from the internet?

I was curious. The thing is, we can actually do two "different" things at the same time; that should be more than protected.  Roll Eyes
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this is how it looks like when someone who knows nothing about Bitcoin and self custody prompts meaningless AI shit

It's astounding how people think they don't need to know anything to take part in a discussion...




I honestly started to explain why that was gobbledegook (aside from the constant commas lol) but gave up.
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Could you explain this part in bold?

"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."

What is the difference between being offline and being disconnected from the internet?

I was curious. The thing is, we can actually do two "different" things at the same time; that should be more than protected.  Roll Eyes

The part that is in quotation marks (including in bold) is a quotation from the prior BTCETF investor post.
Let him explain what it really meant  Wink

...but...in short... the journo who wrote it has no idea...he/she thinks that bitcoins are tucked inside the vault, happily disconnected from the Internet like a hard drive would be, lol
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Could you explain this part in bold?

"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."

What is the difference between being offline and being disconnected from the internet?

I was curious. The thing is, we can actually do two "different" things at the same time; that should be more than protected.  Roll Eyes

The part that is in quotation marks (including in bold) is a quotation from the prior BTCETF investor post.
Let him explain what it really meant  Wink

...but...in short... the journo who wrote it has no idea...he/she thinks that bitcoins are tucked inside the vault, happily disconnected from the Internet like a hard drive would be, lol

Geez!

When Morgan Stanley talks about keeping private keys "offline," they are describing a security strategy known as 'Cold Storage'.

If your "keys" (the digital codes used to authorize transactions) are on a computer connected to the internet, they are vulnerable to hackers, malware, and remote breaches. By moving them offline access cannot be breached - thus Morgan Stanley's security will be COLD STORAGE...

Simply put: Morgan Stanley is describing a security practice known as cold storage, and the key idea is that the cryptographic keys controlling the ETF’s Bitcoin are kept completely offline, making them unreachable to hackers. Because the keys are offline, hackers cannot access them remotely, even if they breach online systems.


Not sure why you high-tech Bitcoin self-custody gurus don't understand this!  Roll Eyes

Why are you acting so stupid as if this security practice is somehow a red flag troubling issue?
Roll Eyes

If you are interested - this is Fidelity's security practice & Blackrock's security practice to secure Bitcoin under their control:

► Fidelity uses institution‑grade, multi‑layered custody built around hardware‑isolated private keys, strict operational controls, and regulatory‑aligned risk management. In practice, that means multi‑signature cold storage using Hardware Security Modules (HSMs), combined with segregated duties, audited workflows, and geographically distributed key shards. This is the model used by major custodians and is the standard regulators expect.

► Blackrock uses a regulator‑grade way to secure Bitcoin is an institution‑scale custody architecture built around hardware‑isolated private keys, multi‑party authorization, and diversified custodial risk. BlackRock’s own ETF filings and industry reporting show that they already rely on multiple qualified custodians—primarily Coinbase Custody and Anchorage Digital to achieve this level of resilience.




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Could you explain this part in bold?

"private keys to the vaults are offline and are disconnected from the internet so that the funds do not get stolen during potential cyber attacks."

What is the difference between being offline and being disconnected from the internet?

I was curious. The thing is, we can actually do two "different" things at the same time; that should be more than protected.  Roll Eyes

The part that is in quotation marks (including in bold) is a quotation from the prior BTCETF investor post.
Let him explain what it really meant  Wink

...but...in short... the journo who wrote it has no idea...he/she thinks that bitcoins are tucked inside the vault, happily disconnected from the Internet like a hard drive would be, lol

the best safety  is wallet a sends 10,000 coins each to wallet/addresses b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k and two seperate watchers of those ten addresses

thus ten tenthousand coin addresses each run by two people as a multi sign. knowing that they both must sign and that the missed coins will be noticed quickly.

so at worst you lose ten thousand coins per holder.

it would mean 22 jobs to secure 100,000 coins

and i know no large business would go that route as they would not want to pay 22 people to handle the coins.
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-But what I have to tell you, that I admire you for not taking medicines
 from the pharmaceutical industry.
because I don't take it either, and this is very rare these days,
I can tell you that I have kidney stones, and last week, I managed to expels one,
which had been tangled up for a few months....

I am not taking medicines but managing things (my diabetes mellitus) through my dietary control. At times it become difficult to control it this way like its month of Ramadan and dietary control gets lose this month. But if I can control my diet in this month of fasting then my a1c reading will be ideal at the end of this month. 13 hours of fasting and when I break fast it becomes difficult to refrain from stuff on the table.

Likewise if you think that you can handle your kidney stone issue by taking ample liquid then why not go for it rather taking medicines.
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