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April 22, 2026, 09:05:51 PM

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1KzvBTUbdwNBXiTkzr1msFUtPf7Vu2zLiu
Block 39 above
Untouched no withdrawals

Is it Likely satoshi well over 99%
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/16cAVR3SQbNzu8KZtGdo8cG1iueWpcngxz
Block 99 untouched
99% likely to be satoshi

I certainly would want the full list of blocks 0 to 1000 that are spent this is the 50,000 coin mark
The full list of blocks 1001 to 10,000 that are spent the 500,000 coin mark
The full list of blocks 10,001 to 20,000 spent this is the 1,000,000 coin mark

Probably the whole first year of bitcoin, there were probably less than 20 individuals in total mining bitcoin and on CPUs. .not GPUs  or anything fancy.. I think Lazlo figured out the GPU thing in early 2010.. which was part of the reason he started to buy pizzas in around May 2010 with all of the bitcoin he was mining as compared with any other then existing miners at that time (before bitcoin even seemed to have any kind of a price).

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@infofront, make a poll please OGnasty or PAASHAAS
Would be nice to see who people following the most in a way of thinking for a near-mid term period.

Maybe a 3th option not to agree with any of them.

In your rendition of the world, as we know it, will there be an "OgNasty is retarded" option?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

By the way, remember the good ole days when many of us (if not all?) "used to be" pissed off at Paashaas, based on his ongoing, incessant and persistent bear calls - which likely related to his having had sold too much of dee cornz too soon in the mid $30ks.. Shocked hahahahahaha

My how times change, no?

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As long as we having fun together not interested in one upsmanship or a dick swinging competition.

You are no fun!!!!!!!



 Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

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well for me with a measly 1.73 coins pushing to grow to 2 coins
which one should I pick to believe.

Hint it is not OG
here's why I am 69 and 1.73x40k=69.2 K

while 1.73x1,000,000=1,730,000
I rather get the 1.7 million plus easy pick for me.

As that is a life changing number for me. Even if I pay 600k in taxes on it.

In theory, you could stack more coins with the OG fantasy view.

Oh, and by the way, it is a bit presumption to expect high levels of BTC price performance, merely because we had high levels of BTC performance in the past.

Accordingly, it seems way more practical for guys to be preparing for a variety of scenarios, whether we are still accumulating more coins or not... .and yeah, there can frequently be a lack of patience to want to get to a stage of spending coins rather than accumulating them.. which is not as BIG of a problem for guys who have already gotten towards a decently large bitcoin stash and perhaps even to overaccumulation status where they have enough or more than enough bitcoin.

Even lower quantity of coins can be transitioned into sustainable withdrawal without trying to fuck around with trading, once we might figure out that we are no longer in our bitcoin accumulation phase - even though right now, from my point of view, 1.73 BTC only gets you a sustainable withdrawal amount of right around $10,400 per year or $865 per month with a 7% per year increase, which still is not really bad for some people to have such a supplement of sustainable income - until such stage that there might be a determination to start to deplete the principle (which then is no longer sustainable withdrawal).

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Hackability destroys immutability, what part of that do you not understand Huh

Sure. Hacking coins is theft, yet changing property rights within the bitcoin code seems way more problematic than someone taking some keys that might have had been vulnerable (supposedly).

I think that I fixed the quote that you (OOM) had messed up.  I was going to send you a merit OOM, but you misquoted. 

I think that the quote should have had been like this:

~Difficult choices and that's why we all need to decide were we stand and hash it out now years before it becomes imperative.
A decade from now what will a coin be worth?  

Those coins going liquid will tank the value now, imagine when the value it upwards of a cool mil.
It does not matter what the valuation will be at a given point of time, BTCitcoin is created to be an immutable asset and it should stay that way irrespective of what the economist think.
Seconded. If you ever worry about the (monetary) worth of Bitcoin, you didn't get the idea of it. Just because Satoshi advised to hodl Bitcoin and that it will go up in price by itself (yeah, i did put it quite simple here but i think you get what i mean), doesn't mean that this is the sole purpose of Bitcoin. It's just a (convenient) side-effect of a deflational asset.
Thinking of Bitcoin as a technology instead of an asset brought me through all those cycle bear markets without sweating. Sure, it's nice to zoom out and see my net worth going up only, but fiat richness is really not the meaning of (my) life.

Substantively, I think that you (OOM) are agreeing that bitcoin's asset properties should not be changed.
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I think that I fixed the quote that you (OOM) had messed up.

I see OOM messed one up after my quote but I have no clue what your talking about if you are saying I messed it up?

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And freezing people's coins would cause less havoc? I doubt that. It is not like the company would go on Binance and press market sell..
I am not advocating freezing anyone's coins, don't put words in my mouth.
I didn't say you advocate it though, I just asked if it would cause less havoc and gave my opinion on it.

I would only support removing satoshi's coins and only to destroy them or roll them into the emission pool.
What if that is the goal here and they are intentionally starting the negotiation with a terrible and radical proposal? So they are hoping the other side, the people who are against freezing, would cede to something like this instead? If Lopp believes that security budget issue claims that have been going around some time back, then it is plausible.

Hackability destroys immutability, what part of that do you not understand Huh
It does not? Coins have been getting hacked almost every single day in all sorts of ways so you are saying Bitcoin is not immutable already? Deriving private keys that are weakly generated is quite similar to this case, so you can't say it is different to dismiss this.
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And freezing people's coins would cause less havoc? I doubt that. It is not like the company would go on Binance and press market sell..
I am not advocating freezing anyone's coins, don't put words in my mouth.
I didn't say you advocate it though, I just asked if it would cause less havoc and gave my opinion on it.

I would only support removing satoshi's coins and only to destroy them or roll them into the emission pool.
What if that is the goal here and they are intentionally starting the negotiation with a terrible and radical proposal? So they are hoping the other side, the people who are against freezing, would cede to something like this instead? If Lopp believes that security budget issue claims that have been going around some time back, then it is plausible.

Hackability destroys immutability, what part of that do you not understand Huh
It does not? Coins have been getting hacked almost every single day in all sorts of ways so you are saying Bitcoin is not immutable already? Deriving private keys that are weakly generated is quite similar to this case, so you can't say it is different to dismiss this.


Hahaha, I'm sorry but I can't.
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April 23, 2026, 01:08:32 AM

Peter Schiff just made some interesting comments about Saylor’s STRC offering and the SEC…

“Sometimes a Ponzi scheme is not obvious. The only sign may be that it seems too good to be true. But that is not the case with $STRC, which is the most obvious Ponzi that has ever existed. The fact that the SEC allows @Saylor to promote it is more proof that we don't need an SEC.”

https://x.com/peterschiff/status/2047088486415507492?s=46&t=bWFpJfwmRUMUsiGQTzTLyQ
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Peter Schiff just made some interesting comments about Saylor’s STRC offering and the SEC…

“Sometimes a Ponzi scheme is not obvious. The only sign may be that it seems too good to be true. But that is not the case with $STRC, which is the most obvious Ponzi that has ever existed. The fact that the SEC allows @Saylor to promote it is more proof that we don't need an SEC.”

https://x.com/peterschiff/status/2047088486415507492?s=46&t=bWFpJfwmRUMUsiGQTzTLyQ

Interesting analogy. India faces a similar issue with SEBI - the public is mostly unaware where there financial information is stored and verified. It's just a bunch of paper trades, instagram promotions and such gimmicks to lure gullible people.

In other words, there is no free lunch.
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Hackability destroys immutability, what part of that do you not understand Huh
It does not? Coins have been getting hacked almost every single day in all sorts of ways so you are saying Bitcoin is not immutable already? Deriving private keys that are weakly generated is quite similar to this case, so you can't say it is different to dismiss this.
Hahaha, I'm sorry but I can't.
Let's pretend that this was not a thing ok.. adding a zero or two to the number of wallets suddenly makes a case against immutability?

https://www.securityweek.com/most-bitcoin-brain-wallets-drained-attackers/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4768828.0

Brain wallets could be seen as a legacy method of wallet making and it is not banned. If you create a brain wallet today and it gets hacked, that means Bitcoin is not immutable anymore? Or you will freeze my Bitcoin on those wallets?  Grin  Grin
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The thing with BIP-361 is, when we start freezing/seizing addresses and coins ... when will we stop? And who decides?
If it happens once, it will happen again, to a neighborhood near you. Remember Craig S. Wright?

Press the button and someone you don't know will die. And then someone else will press the same button, and they will not know you. Remember that?
Who is behind this proposal anyway? Are there any sincere intentions to save all these coins from evil hackers, or are those who propose it on the payroll of some very bad and greedy people who have realized that there is a buried treasure that no one has yet claimed?

Be that as it may, it is bad to play with such things, because I do not see a scenario in which everything can end positively.
It's a damned if we do damned if we don't choice. Sad

From the perspective of this here cat, it is less damned if you don't... Convince me otherwise.  When in doubt, leave it as is. It is not broken.

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We will never know when they are hackable before they are hacked thats the problem.

And once they are hackable with QC they are gone, poof, it will take no time at all.

From your perspective, once QC arrives, all of Satoshi's coins are gone "at once"..  That seems a wee bit fantastical.

Hint it is not OG

We’ll see. If I’m wrong I make millions of dollars and if I’m right I make dozens of Bitcoin. I am fine with either outcome but at this point it is just numbers on a computer screen to me. I’m more interested in helping others avoid making huge mistakes like not taking profits every four years or buying the top of the cycle.

hahahaha

You are really a lost lil puppy.

For some reason, you consider whatever bitcoin you supposedly sold as "making millions of dollars."  

Oh gawd..  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Tiny pump for ants
Satisfaction, just enough
These days, it suffices

#Haiku
80k in next 24 hours.

Wanna bet?  

hahahaha

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we don't need veal now (baby bull)

we want a very large tomahawk in a year big bad bull

Would you like to have the one that exists in the real world?

or the one that exists like a fairy?

#askingforafriend

I think that I fixed the quote that you (OOM) had messed up.
I see OOM messed one up after my quote but I have no clue what your talking about if you are saying I messed it up?

It's the quote that I referenced and OOM had attributed what 7788bitcoin had posted to Philip.

This is what I saw as the quoting error:


This was my attempt to fix the attribution back to 7788bitcoin:
 

I think that I fixed the quote that you (OOM) had messed up.
I see OOM messed one up after my quote but I have no clue what your talking about if you are saying I messed it up?
i like messes. what can i do to help
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Just be ur lil selfie.. that will probably help.  Tongue Tongue

Hackability destroys immutability, what part of that do you not understand Huh
It does not? Coins have been getting hacked almost every single day in all sorts of ways so you are saying Bitcoin is not immutable already? Deriving private keys that are weakly generated is quite similar to this case, so you can't say it is different to dismiss this.
Hahaha, I'm sorry but I can't.
Let's pretend that this was not a thing ok.. adding a zero or two to the number of wallets suddenly makes a case against immutability?
https://www.securityweek.com/most-bitcoin-brain-wallets-drained-attackers/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4768828.0

Brain wallets could be seen as a legacy method of wallet making and it is not banned. If you create a brain wallet today and it gets hacked, that means Bitcoin is not immutable anymore? Or you will freeze my Bitcoin on those wallets?  Grin  Grin

Right now, there seem to be BIP proposals to make it "acceptable" to be fucking around with private keys of other members through changes in the software, then it does not matter if you hold your keys as brain wallets or whatever or you gave the private keys to your best friend or to the grandchild of your best frienc, since if the address type might meet a certain criteria of having coins inside that had not been moved or whatever might be the criteria, then your coins might get frozen (rug pulled) or maybe reallocated into tail distribution or some other dumb shit like that.  ..so when you wake up from your coma (or the grandchild of your best friend peels the sticker off of the Casacius coins), there won't be any coins in the place where there used to be coins.

There seem to be faulty assumptions that if someone doesn't move their coins frequently enough (or at all) (and those coins are in supposedly vulnerable addresses) then there are justifications to rewrite the bitcoin software so that those coins can be commandeered (because they have become public property or some dumb shit like that).. .as if that kind of an idea were to make much if any sense under the principles of bitcoin?
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She does not know what to think of this book.  But thats partly because she was reading it upside down for a long while.

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She does not know what to think of this book.  But thats partly because she was reading it upside down for a long while.


Protip:  That chick (to the extent she actually exists?) should move back a bit from the book so that her eyes do not get crossed, since her eyes might not return to normal after they become overly crossed like that.

By the way, not to be too much of a party pooper, I appreciate the touch of the beakers of colorful liquids, even though I am not sure if she is drinking that stuff or just using them to draw squigglies and/or bar graphs.
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She does not know what to think of this book.  But thats partly because she was reading it upside down for a long while.


Protip:  That chick (to the extent she actually exists?) should move back a bit from the book so that her eyes do not get crossed, since her eyes might not return to normal after they become overly crossed like that.

By the way, not to be too much of a party pooper, I appreciate the touch of the beakers of colorful liquids, even though I am not sure if she is drinking that stuff or just using them to draw squigglies and/or bar graphs.

Poop all you like. 

Those vials are ingredients she used when making her wands.  She knows better than to drink them!  Though they are all natural.  In her universe.
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She does not know what to think of this book.  But thats partly because she was reading it upside down for a long while.



Now we're talking. (no more goth look = good!)

I was beginning to worry, and that coffin image came into my mind... Nice to see her alive and back to her true self, although she seems to be struggling with that book. I think she liked the other one ("Cyclist Theory") better. Her magic wands are lit green, which is a good sign.

You go girl ($83k+ by the end of April).
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