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My personal predictions are...  price to take out liquidity which is at that 75k and after liquidity has been taken out I expect higher prices and a break of that 86-90k resistance.
But for now price is still at 81k, and is moving on a down trend
Oh?  Personal prediction. 
Down before up, you say?

Anything between about $70k-ish and $92k-ish seems like noise, even though surely getting down to $70k would likely be quite depressing for a lot of the longer term bitcoin holders who seem to be ready for up and not very interested in down (present company - royal - included).
Oh well, I do get your point, but it's these little movements that creates the bigger ones,

To the extent that I might have had a personal passing point, I am not sure if you got it, even though you did respond to what you considered to be responsive..or elaboration on your earlier point.

Probably market might be so Intrested in that 74k liquidity before it makes a very significant bull movement that will be very noticeable,

Market interested.

WO members interested.

Yours truly interested.

Uie-pooie interested.


These might be different points of interest, no?

and also to those folks that might be stressed about the consolidation,

Haha..

Persons who might be stressed about our supposed consolidation interested.

I will point out that it seems to me that some persons are stressed when a consolidation might take one or two weeks, and others might be stressed when a consolidation takes 4-6 months and others might not agree about what might happen to be a reasonable definition of consolidation.

deley And dropping price can see it as probably a reason price acts this way, you know knowing price needs to get something lower before normal trend continues will wipe out stress or disappointments conserening dropping price,

It seems that I might have mentioned your own timeline earlier, too... which happens to be being registered on this forum for less than a year.. let's call it a little more than 11 months.

I have a difficult time appreciating how very many guys with that kind of a bitcoin timeline from very many situations would be trying to figure out whether there might be a dip or not rather than ongoingly buying bitcoin as the money comes in..

Yeah, I understand, from time to time, there might be guys who might have other investments and/or ways to reallocate into bitcoin from other assets /currencies that they might have.. so then perhaps in those circumstances, there might end up being more sensitivities to BTC price movements.

sometimes these are the reasons I analyse and it calms me down, and the market has also proven me right as well sometimes

Are you acting upon it?

which perhaps provides a couple of other potential categories of interest?

Traders/gamblers interested.

Couch surfers interested.

Cars fly and Satoshi's alive, people who once thought something is impossible is happening already. Wink
About the roadster, I thought it's just another AI video that is created to confuse us but not it is happening for real and I am eagerly waiting to see them hitting the roads. Interesting part is Elon mentioned about using rocket engines on his Tesla cars in the year 2018 itself.
You could get a rocket kit for a volkswagen in the 60's, its nothing new.
Strapping a rocket engine and integrating 8 rockets inside the car isn't the same, but it remind me something, just like blockchain existed long before Bitcoin while Satoshi was the one who successfully implemented it into something useful amd gave us a usable product. I am not saying Elon is Satoshi just creating one more conspiracy theory for the internet. Cheesy

I am not sure how to take what you might be saying @Findingnemo.

Sure, you seem to not be saying that Elon is Satoshi,

yet


you do seem to be suggesting that Elon is doing something very similar to what Satoshi had done - so in that regard, you seem to be suggesting that "they are both great men of our times."

Am I reading something wrongedly?


Any other great men (or women for that matter, why leave out the women in this?) that you would like to compare?  Or maybe a ranking?  A living legend versus a dead one?  Satoshi is dead, right?  Or?  We are trying to measure the outputs of these great men, and not the men themselves, right?

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That is not Satoshi's claim to fame, solving the Generals dilemma is.

Bitcoin is just the first implementation.

This "first implementation" characterization could have some "interesting" ramifications down the road, if we are considering that the first implementation is still in the process of "playing itself out."

Maybe I should ask this provocative (perhaps a wee bit poking or trolling?) question? 

Are there any other "implementations" of the general's dilemma resolution in the room with us** right now?

**I presume you know what I mean by "in the room" with us, but I could elaborate upon request.. but I hate to be so trite.
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Are there any other "implementations" of the general's dilemma resolution in the room with us** right now?


If you understand the game theory, and the implications of removing a trusted central authority.

I think thats some thing we call freedom.

Is that something people should think is important?  Wink
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Strapping a rocket engine and integrating 8 rockets inside the car isn't the same, but it remind me something, just like blockchain existed long before Bitcoin while Satoshi was the one who successfully implemented it into something useful amd gave us a usable product. I am not saying Elon is Satoshi just creating one more conspiracy theory for the internet. Cheesy

I am not sure how to take what you might be saying @Findingnemo.

Sure, you seem to not be saying that Elon is Satoshi,

yet


you do seem to be suggesting that Elon is doing something very similar to what Satoshi had done - so in that regard, you seem to be suggesting that "they are both great men of our times."

Am I reading something wrongedly?

Any other great men (or women for that matter, why leave out the women in this?) that you would like to compare?  Or maybe a ranking?  A living legend versus a dead one?  Satoshi is dead, right?  Or?  We are trying to measure the outputs of these great men, and not the men themselves, right?


I am not saying they are the same person, maybe I wasn't very clear I just merged two bits from the previous haiku that caused the confusion or an interesting theory.

Elon has intentions and most of them lead towards making more money or having influence over something but Satoshi gave us something that no one expected and he vanished completely and probably that is one of the reason why people started to believe that there is no other agenda behind the creation of Bitcoin.

There are many living legends and I am just thrilled to be living in this period.
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Are there any other "implementations" of the general's dilemma resolution in the room with us** right now?
If you understand the game theory, and the implications of removing a trusted central authority.
I think thats some thing we call freedom.

Is that something people should think is important?  Wink

Many of us recognize/appreciate (I am not talking about royal, here) that there are people who seem to have questionable values, and/or they might not always recognize what their values are and/or how those values might line up with their actions.

There are many folks who actually would prefer not to be told what to do or to be limited in their options, so sometimes they might not realize when and/or how their freedoms are being limited... and personally, I am not always clear about how my own freedoms are being limited through my actions.. and yeah, it can be difficult to choose more inconvenient paths, such as restricting our cell phone usage or choosing to buy and drive a pre-2000 car that is limited in its tracking capabilities.

By the way, you did not really answer the question. 

Did anyone else want to give it a shot?




Anyone?




Anyone?
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Are there any other "implementations" of the general's dilemma resolution in the room with us** right now?
If you understand the game theory, and the implications of removing a trusted central authority.
I think thats some thing we call freedom.

Is that something people should think is important?  Wink

Many of us recognize/appreciate (I am not talking about royal, here) that there are people who seem to have questionable values, and/or they might not always recognize what their values are and/or how those values might line up with their actions.

There are many folks who actually would prefer not to be told what to do or to be limited in their options, so sometimes they might not realize when and/or how their freedoms are being limited... and personally, I am not always clear about how my own freedoms are being limited through my actions.. and yeah, it can be difficult to choose more inconvenient paths, such as restricting our cell phone usage or choosing to buy and drive a pre-2000 car that is limited in its tracking capabilities.

By the way, you did not really answer the question. 

Did anyone else want to give it a shot?




Anyone?




Anyone?

If you live in the USA and want pure freedom it is long gone.
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Saylor talking about the four year cycle… Funny how he said it was dead when he was buying the top, it was dead when he was selling the bottom. Now the market catches a whiff of a rally around the four year cycle bottom and the four year cycle is why they designed their business the way they did. It really is a shame people think this guy is a Bitcoiner.

https://x.com/timel9379/status/2111830622784405912?s=46&t=bWFpJfwmRUMUsiGQTzTLyQ
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Are there any other "implementations" of the general's dilemma resolution in the room with us** right now?
If you understand the game theory, and the implications of removing a trusted central authority.
I think thats some thing we call freedom.

Is that something people should think is important?  Wink

Many of us recognize/appreciate (I am not talking about royal, here) that there are people who seem to have questionable values, and/or they might not always recognize what their values are and/or how those values might line up with their actions.

There are many folks who actually would prefer not to be told what to do or to be limited in their options, so sometimes they might not realize when and/or how their freedoms are being limited... and personally, I am not always clear about how my own freedoms are being limited through my actions.. and yeah, it can be difficult to choose more inconvenient paths, such as restricting our cell phone usage or choosing to buy and drive a pre-2000 car that is limited in its tracking capabilities.

By the way, you did not really answer the question. 

Did anyone else want to give it a shot?




Anyone?




Anyone?

If you live in the USA and want pure freedom it is long gone.

 No one anywhere has ever known pure freedom.  I believe that is death - the infinitesimal period of time when you become free from the constraints of your physical surroundings and of your own biology.  I do not recommend pure freedom.
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Are there any other "implementations" of the general's dilemma resolution in the room with us** right now?
If you understand the game theory, and the implications of removing a trusted central authority.
I think thats some thing we call freedom.

Is that something people should think is important?  Wink

Many of us recognize/appreciate (I am not talking about royal, here) that there are people who seem to have questionable values, and/or they might not always recognize what their values are and/or how those values might line up with their actions.

There are many folks who actually would prefer not to be told what to do or to be limited in their options, so sometimes they might not realize when and/or how their freedoms are being limited... and personally, I am not always clear about how my own freedoms are being limited through my actions.. and yeah, it can be difficult to choose more inconvenient paths, such as restricting our cell phone usage or choosing to buy and drive a pre-2000 car that is limited in its tracking capabilities.

By the way, you did not really answer the question.  
Did anyone else want to give it a shot?

Anyone?
Anyone?

If you live in the USA and want pure freedom it is long gone.

That is not even close (not even in the same ballpark) in attempting to answer my question.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Angry Angry Angry

Saylor talking about the four year cycle… Funny how he said it was dead when he was buying the top, it was dead when he was selling the bottom. Now the market catches a whiff of a rally around the four year cycle bottom and the four year cycle is why they designed their business the way they did. It really is a shame people think this guy is a Bitcoiner.
https://x.com/timel9379/status/2111830622784405912?s=46&t=bWFpJfwmRUMUsiGQTzTLyQ

If it were possible, I would just wuv to see uie-pooie and Saylor have a debate about bitcoin.. to see who knows more about bitcoin.. yes, restricting the topic to bitcoin may well help to show who the "true bitcoiner" happens to be, if there is such a thing?

An hour?  Would that be enough?  Of course, you @OgNasty might bring some bitcoin talking points (you might have to do some studying) and then try to elaborate on your talking points, and yeah, you might be saved by Saylor's inability to shut the fuck up, yet if some debate rules committee were to be able to limit responses to 3-8-ish minutes each, depending on the kind of question/topic, then yeah, I would imagine your smartie-assedness to be thoroughly kicked, but yeah, maybe you think that there is a chance that your (presumed smarter than everyone else) ass would not be thoroughly kicked.  hahahahaha..



It would be wuvveley to witness.

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If you live in the USA and want pure freedom it is long gone.
No one anywhere has ever known pure freedom.  I believe that is death - the infinitesimal period of time when you become free from the constraints of your physical surroundings and of your own biology.  I do not recommend pure freedom.

You too?

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Are there any other "implementations" of the general's dilemma resolution in the room with us** right now?
If you understand the game theory, and the implications of removing a trusted central authority.
I think thats some thing we call freedom.

Is that something people should think is important?  Wink

Many of us recognize/appreciate (I am not talking about royal, here) that there are people who seem to have questionable values, and/or they might not always recognize what their values are and/or how those values might line up with their actions.

There are many folks who actually would prefer not to be told what to do or to be limited in their options, so sometimes they might not realize when and/or how their freedoms are being limited... and personally, I am not always clear about how my own freedoms are being limited through my actions.. and yeah, it can be difficult to choose more inconvenient paths, such as restricting our cell phone usage or choosing to buy and drive a pre-2000 car that is limited in its tracking capabilities.

By the way, you did not really answer the question.  
Did anyone else want to give it a shot?

Anyone?
Anyone?

If you live in the USA and want pure freedom it is long gone.

That is not even close (not even in the same ballpark) in attempting to answer my question.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Angry Angry Angry

Saylor talking about the four year cycle… Funny how he said it was dead when he was buying the top, it was dead when he was selling the bottom. Now the market catches a whiff of a rally around the four year cycle bottom and the four year cycle is why they designed their business the way they did. It really is a shame people think this guy is a Bitcoiner.
https://x.com/timel9379/status/2111830622784405912?s=46&t=bWFpJfwmRUMUsiGQTzTLyQ

If it were possible, I would just wuv to see uie-pooie and Saylor have a debate about bitcoin.. to see who knows more about bitcoin.. yes, restricting the topic to bitcoin may well help to show who the "true bitcoiner" happens to be, if there is such a thing?

An hour?  Would that be enough?  Of course, you @OgNasty might bring some bitcoin talking points (you might have to do some studying) and then try to elaborate on your talking points, and yeah, you might be saved by Saylor's inability to shut the fuck up, yet if some debate rules committee were to be able to limit responses to 3-8-ish minutes each, depending on the kind of question/topic, then yeah, I would imagine your smartie-assedness to be thoroughly kicked, but yeah, maybe you think that there is a chance that your (presumed smarter than everyone else) ass would not be thoroughly kicked.  hahahahaha..



It would be wuvveley to witness.

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If you live in the USA and want pure freedom it is long gone.
No one anywhere has ever known pure freedom.  I believe that is death - the infinitesimal period of time when you become free from the constraints of your physical surroundings and of your own biology.  I do not recommend pure freedom.

You too?

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https://x.com/timel9379/status/2111830622784405912?s=46&t=bWFpJfwmRUMUsiGQTzTLyQ

Too much vocal fry for me. After a few seconds, my eardrums were as crispy as well done potato chips. Pretty hot though. I'm sure she was chosen for her financial expertise and all.
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I'm gunna sleep in so fuggin' hard tomorrow...

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