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[nullius]

the number "4" is a super duper secret number used for internet security.. thusly:

https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/10/the-internet-goes-on-high-alert-after-discovery-of-8-compromised-tls-certs/

thats all the secret beans i got

“Only” six certs can be used to issue a valid cert to MITM any TLS connection.  The other two are for Microsoft Authenticode; I presume those are not so catastrophic, due to Microsoft’s central control of revocation.

All of these bad intermediate certificates literally have an 8-bit (eight-bit) security level.  They make bad ColdCard seeds look like impenetrable fortresses by comparison.

This is old news.  Mozilla and Google mitigated it in Firefox and Chromium/Chrome on October 17, 2026.  However, that didn’t protect against the massive vulnerability this caused throughout the software ecosystem.  And if you do anything custom on your own machines, you need to be on top of this weeks ago.

I advise exterminating all eMudhra/emSign roots from all of your systems, with extreme prejudice.  The company is eMudhra; the certs use “emSign” in their names.  In my opinion, that company can never again be trusted with PKI roots.  Think of it this way:  Hey, would you buy a ColdCard now?

On the same day when theymos took the forum down due to php2shell, I myself spent something like four or five hours combing through custom stuff with embedded CA roots I’d done on a bunch of virtual machines; it was a mess!  Fortunately, I already used either pinned fingerprints or a single, manually selected CA root in my custom email thingie; otherwise, this could’ve been used by any malicious Tor exits to steal all of my email passwords on the wire.

I’ve been intending since last month to make a Development & Technology thread about this and other randomness breakage (referenced here).  If some people are just hearing of this now, maybe I should hurry up.

(Written in haste, off the top of my head.)

[Meretrix]

I made DireWolfM14 agree to pay me 1.0 ZEC/hour to listen to conspiracy theories without basis in fact, while I smile and pretend to be fascinated.  (Well, he didn’t yet agree—but it sounds bitchier “nicer” when I say it that way, and I’m trying to be nice.)

Say what?  I thought you were offering to pay me to educate you. 

Protip:  “I’m so hot, the hooker offered to pay me” is a cliché, honey.  Everyone in this business has heard it a thousand times.  It’s never true. 

Conspiracy theory fetish is a big ask, but I’m good with all sorts of weird kinks.  For 1.0 ZEC/hour at current prices, I’d love for you to “educate” me all night long.  While I patiently listen to nonsense with no evidence, you can even make me shut the fuck up with—well, y’know, a girl can’t talk with her mouth full. 


On the other hand...

72.8 k

Buddy be suffering shrinkage.

...perhaps Buddy may be squicked out and turned off by the discussion of a conspiracy theory fetish? 

[ChartBuddy]

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[Richy_T]

Buddy? when Kickup with your biggreen buyer's Wave in the ass on theses are bullyng you?





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Needs more Mitch.

I don't rate women by numbers.

Not even hashrate?

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[DaRude]

POV:  The CCP wants your beans spilled

4

Of 5?

I don't rate women by numbers.

So.. like...you use letters or something?

[Meretrix]

I don't rate women by numbers.

Not even hashrate?

I don't rate women by numbers.

So.. like...you use letters or something?

You rate her by what you pay her.  Money or GTFO; other “ratings” are for timewasters.

Since this is the Wall Observer, we will rate in BTC as a unit of account.  How much BTC would you pay her to spend one hour alone with you in a hotel room?  If she only accepts privacy coins, we can work from there.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[Biodom]

Which is more likely as a cause of a sudden decline in the last few days?

1. Mr Huang sold some bitcoin to China..hehe
or
2. Tech investors are raising cash for a certain IPO?

That said, I am pretty miffed by the never ending AI story...why not f-g bitcoin and/or biotech instead?
I got "stuck" in several promising companies that are still "promising" with no stock appreciation and bitcoin did almost nothing on a balance since the 2021 peak, a meeker ATH in 2025 notwithstanding.

Conclusion: investing is hard and Peter Lynch's approach is moronic...I can say this after many tries.

[Wrathofcoins]

Which is more likely?

1. Mr Huang sold some bitcoin to China..hehe
or
2. Tech investors are raising cash for a certain IPO?

That said, I am pretty miffed by the never ending AI story...why not f-g biotech instead?

I was expecting to see a real short squeeze on all the AI market after the Nvidia news and the problem it could generate but it seems like the market somehow didnt care so much which for me is pretty strange, right now it seems like we are paying more us the BTC guys than all that shit retarts who drop money in that no sense bonfire.

Nvidia is the keystone in all that if they fall all is gonna fall around them they are the guys who are making and putting more money into AI in the closed circle they build between them and IA companies.

[Ambatman]

That said, I am pretty miffed by the never ending AI story...why not f-g biotech instead? Got "stuck" in several promising companies that are still "promising" with no stock appreciation.

It seems watching machine think is more exciting than saving lives.
If they improve on bio tech current medicine could get cheaper via efficiency
And that's not good for business.
Humans are funny
Quantum computing can help in Bio tech but they love advertising it on cracking Bitcoin.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[nullius]

It seems watching machine think is more exciting than saving lives.

Sci-fi fantasies plus FOMO in the stock market are more exciting than saving lives.

Humans are funny
Quantum computing can help in Bio tech but they love advertising it on cracking Bitcoin.

Quantum computing was conceived by Richard Feynmann as a way for a computer to model the laws of physics, such that we may better understand the universe—but NSA and other malicious threat actors love the idea of HNDL attacks to decrypt the past 35 years of our PGP, etc.

Ever since my return to the forum, I’ve been working on a new thread about post-quantum GnuPG...

Imagine that in five or ten years, all of your PGP messages are mass-decrypted by dragnet spies armed with a quantum computer.  How would you be harmed?  Even if you think there’s only a 1% chance that a large quantum computer will make ECC/RSA Shorable within the next ten years, are you willing to take a 1% risk of catastrophic failure of long-term security?

...and thinking about how foolish it is that post-quantum hybrid encryption in GnuPG has been available for two years, and people whose long-term safety depends on it are still using ECC-only or RSA encryption.  You can’t take back all the messages you sent before that, even if some of them may haunt you.  Why make it worse?

* nullius politely coughs in the general direction of Proton users, most of all.

[JayJuanGee]

BTC choosing the wrong side again

My portfolio is quiet 
My dreams are still ATH 
Patience costs nothing
Just HODLING

You have been here since August 2023 and you have already accumulated enough bitcoin?

Or maybe you started accumulating bitcoin prior to your forum registration date?

I am new to the forum but I have known about Bitcoin for many years before I joined the forum. And since then I have collected Bitcoin but at that time I sold almost 2 Bitcoins which was my biggest mistake. But when Bitcoin price hit ATH at $68k at the end of 2021 I regretted it a lot because I sold my 2 Bitcoins for only $8k per bitcoin. But now I have not sold Bitcoin and have been accumulating it for about 4-5 years as per my ability.

However, 3 years is enough time to accumulate a good amount of Bitcoin if the investment is continued regularly.

Sure. You can do what you like, yet I have a hard time considering too many scenarios in which the past 3 years would have had been enough time to really accumulate any kind of a meaningful bitcoin portfolio size or more than enough bitcoin, even if guys might have had tried to front load their bitcoin holdings and gotten a lot of their coins around $30 and even if they might have had been able to put 1-2 years of their income into bitcoin.. .but hey, you do you. You seem to be thinking about bitcoin as a trade rather than a lifetime investment, and yeah, guys can do what they like and think about bitcoin as they like.

Much of my consideration of price-based sustainable withdrawal and/or time-based sustainable withdrawal relate to guys reaching some form of overaccumulation status, which is disinclined from selling large portions of bitcoin at any point in time, whether there are perceptions of BTC price peaks or otherwise. 

From my perspective, there could be situations in which a less than 10-year investment timeline make sense, such as for guys with age and/or health circumstances that do not allow them to invest 10 years or longer, and so from my perspective if you don't have age/health concerns and you are considering getting in and out of bitcoin in shorter timelines, then you likely under-appreciate bitcoin and think about bitcoin in trading rather than investing terms.

So yeah, you are likely to get push back from me if you are arguing what seems from my perspective to be bitcoin trading rather than investing ideas and/or practices.

By the way, I can even give a rudimentary example to suggest that even a guy with a $52k income who might have had been able to frontload his bitcoin investment in the first 6 months between March 2023 and August 2023 with half of his annual income ($1k per week and $26k invested over his first 6 months), which would have had gotten him abut 0.94 BTC in the first 6 months.

And, then if he had been able to invest another whole year of his income over the next year by investing $310 per week from September 2023 until now, he would have had invested $52k and accumulated a total of 0.783 BTC.

Then if we take this hypothetical guy and we add up his totals, we would see that he had invested right around $78k, and he would have accumulated 1.723 bitcoin (which would currently have a $130 spot price and/or a $117k 200-WMA value), which surely would be a good bitcoin accumulation position for such a short period of time of accumulating bitcoin, yet right now, 1.723 BTC would ONLY allow such hypothetical guy to sustainably cash out about $875 per month, which would ONLY be about $10,500 per year, which is merely 1/5 of his current income, and I hardly consider that level of bitcoin accumulation (or sustainable income) to be enough or even close to enough bitcoin for anyone considering bitcoin to be an investment rather than a trade...

In other words, it does not seem to be a good idea to be treating bitcoin as a trade rather than an investment, yet surely there are guys who seem to believe that short periods of bitcoin accumulation can result in meaningful bitcoin stash sizes that allow them to meaningfully benefit from bitcoin's level of greatness as an investment that is available to everyone and anyone, as long as they have discretionary funds.

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But doesnt size matter buddy and btc have shrunken quite a bit. I would think that would not be as satisfiying to you.

Bitcoin has shrunken?  Oh?

Bitcoin seems to be slightly higher than its August 18-20 pumpening.. so in that regard, we might observe some variance of flat (aka consolidating or aka noise).

...... and bitcoin did almost nothing on a balance since the 2021 peak, a meeker ATH in 2025 notwithstanding.

It has been so boring in bitcoinlandia since 2021.  I have been sleeping my ass off.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[ESG]

Buddy? when Kickup with your biggreen buyer's Wave in the ass on theses are bullyng you?

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Needs more Mitch.

yeh. muchMore.

maybe yoko ono were the  first(uno) japanese draft...tss...

Cynthia Powell >~> Yoko Ono, Lennon was   a   Myth! rsrs or Mit...

[nullius]

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LOL, Jay, remember when I used to post statutes of ancient hookers on the Wall Observer?  Fun times.

Actually, not fun.  There was a pandemic, the world generally went pear-shaped, a friend permanently vanished, and—I learned that the Wall Observer is the biggest-ever time sink!  But posting statues of ancient hookers on WO was definitely fun.