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June 05, 2014, 07:52:57 AM

If BTCChina is dead then why the volume is quite high (~100BTC/hour) there?
Check the 1d charts for last 6-8 months at bitcoinwisdom.com, compare volumes of BTC-China, Huobi, OKCoin.

* BTC-China was dominant in China through 2013. It had ~13 kBTC/day in October, then ˜60 kBTC/day until ~Dec/20.  After the "five agencies decree" they stopped yuan input/output through banks and switched to a voucher system; which apparently never worked because their volume fell to ˜5 kBTC/day or less.  At some point they got a bank deposits/withdrawals working again, but never recovered their former volume.

* OKCoin started having substantial volume in November, ~40 KBTC/day (2/3 of than BTC-China).  After the December decree they too (IIRC) stopped using banks for a short while, and their volume fell to near zero; but  in January they got bank channels working again.  Their volume recovered to ~20 kBTC/day and then in February rose to ~60 kBTC/day.

* Huobi started real volume in early November, with ~40 kBTC/day.  After the December decree they continued using banks, and their volume then increased to the current ~60 kBTC.  (Presumably they took most of the BTC-China clients.)

Fee policies also contributed to the picture -- Huobi did not charge fees, OKCoin eventually abolished theirs, BTC-China resisted for a while.

There were a few short periods when the volumes fell substantially in those Chinese exchanges, e.g. the Chinese New Year's week.

There were several other significant exchanges in China (FXBTC, BTC38, etc.) which may account for 30% of the Chinese exchange volume.  Even without them, the total Chinese volume per day was about 80% of the World total.

In summary, BTC-China became insignificant after the December decrees (maybe 2-3% of the Chinese volume) and never recovered.
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June 05, 2014, 08:16:22 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.
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June 05, 2014, 08:21:06 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.

Escrow with JorgeStolfi at 0.5% okay?
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June 05, 2014, 08:24:35 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.

Escrow with JorgeStolfi at 0.5% okay?

Deal!
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June 05, 2014, 08:27:55 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.

If you can prove ownership with a signed message, I would buy them with pleasure... I think I've got a 10% discount coupon lying around here somewhere.
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June 05, 2014, 08:30:16 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.

Escrow with JorgeStolfi at 0.5% okay?

If you trust me I'll escrow.

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June 05, 2014, 08:43:36 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.

Escrow with JorgeStolfi at 0.5% okay?

Does JorgeStolfi even have a BTC wallet?Huh
Anyway, best of luck with the deal. Let us know if its successful. Seems dodgy to me though.
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June 05, 2014, 08:45:51 AM

If you sold 5000 on bit stamp market order it would drop price on exchange to $500 or less. Let me put in my limit order to buy at $505, 450, and 400.
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June 05, 2014, 08:53:55 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.

Escrow with JorgeStolfi at 0.5% okay?

Does JorgeStolfi even have a BTC wallet?Huh
Anyway, best of luck with the deal. Let us know if its successful. Seems dodgy to me though.

This Jorge is fake. Ignore him
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June 05, 2014, 09:02:21 AM

Obviously If you had 5000 by you can have your secretary sell them.
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June 05, 2014, 09:04:17 AM

I'll escrow for you! Smiley
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June 05, 2014, 09:20:23 AM

I am offering 5000BTC at a 10% discount for sale via Paypal. PM me if interested, otherwise i will dump them in Bitstamp with a market order in 12 hours.

Escrow with JorgeStolfi at 0.5% okay?

*wiiiink*
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June 05, 2014, 09:23:15 AM

bitstamp is going to sleep?

very very low volume

zzzZZZ Cheesy
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June 05, 2014, 09:27:27 AM

bitstamp is going to sleep?

very very low volume

zzzZZZ Cheesy


Meanwhile the ask wall keeps stacking up. Now 7.8K coins to $700...
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June 05, 2014, 09:28:55 AM

bitstamp is going to sleep?

very very low volume

zzzZZZ Cheesy

I think 650 is the new $450. Maybe we are hovering around that for another 4 weeks and than go to $850. I am honest. I'd be ok with this Smiley
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June 05, 2014, 09:30:48 AM

bitstamp is going to sleep?

very very low volume

zzzZZZ Cheesy

I think 650 is the new $450. Maybe we are hovering around that for another 4 weeks and than go to $850. I am honest. I'd be ok with this Smiley
Looks like things are being set-up for a mega bubble towards the end of this year. I think we will be flatish for several months then things will go crazy and reach over $5k
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June 05, 2014, 09:30:58 AM

bitstamp is going to sleep?

very very low volume

zzzZZZ Cheesy

I think 650 is the new $450. Maybe we are hovering around that for another 4 weeks and than go to $850. I am honest. I'd be ok with this Smiley

That is what's happening.
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June 05, 2014, 09:31:15 AM

bitstamp is going to sleep?

very very low volume

zzzZZZ Cheesy


Meanwhile the ask wall keeps stacking up. Now 7.8K coins to $700...

Isn't that an indicator that the market believes that the price will rather go down that up? There are 4800 coins to 600.
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June 05, 2014, 09:31:38 AM

How odd :

Stamp ATH : 1163
Stamp december minima : 382

1163/382 = 3.044
sqrt(1163/382) = 1.7448

Geometric mean = 382 * 1.7448 ~= 666

(and 666* 1.7448 = 1163)


perfect.
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June 05, 2014, 09:48:00 AM

bitstamp is going to sleep?

very very low volume

zzzZZZ Cheesy


Meanwhile the ask wall keeps stacking up. Now 7.8K coins to $700...

Isn't that an indicator that the market believes that the price will rather go down that up? There are 4800 coins to 600.


Seems to be only Stamps though. Other exchanges not so much.
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