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[Richy_T]

I didn't realize there were so many citizens that weren't actually Americans (we can't hold dual citizenship where I'm from)... I guess the sharp increase since 2008 could also be attributed a moral stand taken due to Bush's election and the wars that have been started since then.

Renouncing US citizenship is both a PITA and difficult so I suspect there's not a whole lot of protest renunciations.

The whole citizenship thing is odd too. You can get dual citizenship by birth easy enough. I could get American citizenship and keep my British no problem but an American wanting to become British would have to renounce their US citizenship. It's just whatever the local laws demand, really.

Just out of interest, what would the place you are do if you were born while your mother was vacationing in the US (automatic US citizenship there)?

Though "Curtain twitcher across the street of the beast" does have a certain ring to it.

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[Richy_T]

@cassius

im going to look into how much can be exported from america and imported to ireland, and the amounts that can be sold for cash with in a certain period of time. i think that may be more viable than trying to stay under bank limits and it solves other issues too.

ps. im 22 and only a have a GF who doesnt care about the money so think im good on the x-wife side of things haha

Ha! There aren't that many reasons other than tax, child maintenance payments and partners with access to joint bank accounts for keeping big payments secret (that I can think of right now, anyway). I just couldn't resist the shot in the dark.  

Illegal purchases? Though given that the (US) govt will start poking around transactions >$10,000 (including "structured" ones), probably best to assume a defensive strategy in any case.

[kurious]

What i miss? Oh we're still at 666 ok going back to sleep

I prefer to think of it as "the 665-667 range".

 

We're currently at "Neighbour of the Beast".

No - surely the neighbour of the Beast is 668, or 664.

[oda.krell]

I like what I'm seeing.

[Richy_T]

What i miss? Oh we're still at 666 ok going back to sleep

I prefer to think of it as "the 665-667 range".

 

We're currently at "Neighbour of the Beast".

No - surely the neighbour of the Beast is 668, or 664.

Not necessarily. Cul-de-sacs are often labelled 1,2,3,4 etc and here in the US, your neighbor might be 676 or even 766 depending on the labelling.

[Cassius]

What i miss? Oh we're still at 666 ok going back to sleep

I prefer to think of it as "the 665-667 range".

 

We're currently at "Neighbour of the Beast".

No - surely the neighbour of the Beast is 668, or 664.

For what it's worth, we were at 664 at the time!

[Cassius]

@cassius

im going to look into how much can be exported from america and imported to ireland, and the amounts that can be sold for cash with in a certain period of time. i think that may be more viable than trying to stay under bank limits and it solves other issues too.

ps. im 22 and only a have a GF who doesnt care about the money so think im good on the x-wife side of things haha

Ha! There aren't that many reasons other than tax, child maintenance payments and partners with access to joint bank accounts for keeping big payments secret (that I can think of right now, anyway). I just couldn't resist the shot in the dark.  

Illegal purchases? Though given that the (US) govt will start poking around transactions >$10,000 (including "structured" ones), probably best to assume a defensive strategy in any case.

Yes, though of what? If you're using bitcoins in the first place then there are far fewer things you'd want to pay for with cash.

[seleme]

Crazy market this really, no way to predict these rises and drops-

[freebit13]

I didn't realize there were so many citizens that weren't actually Americans (we can't hold dual citizenship where I'm from)... I guess the sharp increase since 2008 could also be attributed a moral stand taken due to Bush's election and the wars that have been started since then.

Renouncing US citizenship is both a PITA and difficult so I suspect there's not a whole lot of protest renunciations.

The whole citizenship thing is odd too. You can get dual citizenship by birth easy enough. I could get American citizenship and keep my British no problem but an American wanting to become British would have to renounce their US citizenship. It's just whatever the local laws demand, really.

Just out of interest, what would the place you are do if you were born while your mother was vacationing in the US (automatic US citizenship there)?

AKAIK they'd make you choose, depending on where you are living. If you wanted to stay, you would have to swap your US passport for a South African one and if you lived in the US, you'd need to apply for a visa to visit and citizenship if you wanted to stay; they'd grant you citizenship if you decided to stay, but once again you'd have to give up your US passport/citizenship. Basically we can only hold one passport at a time, although I do have friends who've gotten around this because this country is so screwed up sometimes, but my wife is German and it's taken 4 years and they still haven't managed to process her application. Once she finally gets her application filed, she'll be able to get a South African passport (and national identity number which allows you to open a bank account), but she has to hand her German one in, she basically has to leave and re-enter the country on the same passport, although she can travel around Europe on her German ID card.

Dual citizenship used to be allowed here in the past, but it was stopped some years ago, not exactly sure when.

[Ron~Popeil]

Crazy market this really, no way to predict these rises and drops-

I am still BTC poor enough that this is fun to watch. 

[Richy_T]

AKAIK they'd make you choose, depending on where you are living. If you wanted to stay, you would have to swap your US passport for a South African one and if you lived in the US, you'd need to apply for a visa to visit and citizenship if you wanted to stay; they'd grant you citizenship if you decided to stay, but once again you'd have to give up your US passport/citizenship. Basically we can only hold one passport at a time, although I do have friends who've gotten around this because this country is so screwed up sometimes, but my wife is German and it's taken 4 years and they still haven't managed to process her application. Once she finally gets her application filed, she'll be able to get a South African passport (and national identity number which allows you to open a bank account), but she has to hand her German one in, she basically has to leave and re-enter the country on the same passport, although she can travel around Europe on her German ID card.

Dual citizenship used to be allowed here in the past, but it was stopped some years ago, not exactly sure when.

Yes. But if your mother returned home soon after you were born, you would surely receive a citizenship from that country. Yet you would still be an American citizen by US laws.

[Hunyadi]

Crazy market this really, no way to predict these rises and drops-

I am still BTC poor enough that this is fun to watch. 

It might be painful soon  

[Teppino]

next hop 720/730, soon  


edit: on second tought i'd say 770

[spooderman]

The 700s seem like an impossible dream, but they will be smashed. When we break through them, I feel there'll be token resistance at 1k, and then serious moonage.

[Krabby]

Does anybody remember what happened on Nov 19th last year to make it swing from 755 to 378?

[sickpig]

Does anybody remember what happened on Nov 19th last year to make it swing from 755 to 378?

a china's ban (sorry can't resist  

[JorgeStolfi]

Just out of interest, what would the place you are do if you were born while your mother was vacationing in the US (automatic US citizenship there)?

She would have to get a birth certificate from a Brazilian consulate in order for me to have Brazilian citizenship.  (Perhaps she could do dat here in Brazil too, after returning, I don't know.)

Brazil does not mind about the dual citizenship; I would not need to renounce the US one, and if I had it I could use the US passport when going to the US, and the Brazilian one when coming back.  That would be quite an advantage, because both countries have expensive and extremely cumbersome visa-granting procedures for travel between them.

[ChrisML]

Does anybody remember what happened on Nov 19th last year to make it swing from 755 to 378?

And in February... and April...

Does history repeats itself? Sometimes...

[roslinpl]

Does anybody remember what happened on Nov 19th last year to make it swing from 755 to 378?

And in February... and April...

Does history repeats itself? Sometimes...

As I remember it was due to SilkRoad. Isn't?

[ChrisML]

Does anybody remember what happened on Nov 19th last year to make it swing from 755 to 378?

And in February... and April...

Does history repeats itself? Sometimes...

As I remember it was due to SilkRoad. Isn't?

Forgot about Silk.. ^true story