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[zimmah]

That looks like a fairly awesome app for Android users.    I have an IPhone, so there is no iphone version.  Maybe someday soon Apple will allow the return of some of these kinds of apps to the ITunes store?

In case you missed the news, they already allow bitcoin apps again.
Now it is up to the developers.

YES>>>> I saw some of the new articles about Apple re-allowing some of the crypto-currency apps (possibly applying to bitcoin transmittal and storage apps).

  Accordingly, I have been searching the Apple Itunes store for "new" or "renewed" bitcoin apps.  Initially, I thought that the Coinbase and Blockchain app would re-emerge in the store (since they were already there in December 2013 and March 2014 respectively), and then probably we would witness some other apps in the ITunes store... such as the cool Coinbase related app that you pointed out (Coinbase Trader).... however, so far, NO new or returning apps have appeared in the ITunes store.

Certainly, there has been some statements of optimism in the bitcoin space concerning this news concerning Apple; however, I remain of the belief that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I will believe it when I see certain kinds of bitcoin apps (such as wallets and transmitting apps) reappear in the ITunes store.  Crossing my fingers - hoping for the best.

Circle (or similar) translated in every language and some form off facebook integration would be great!

My understanding regarding the initial Circle.com roll out is that it is ONLY going to be serving customers with USA banking accounts, and as we all likely realize, USA - centric businesses do NOT tend to be too quick in recognizing any kind of need for other languages, other than English.

On the other hand, to give appropriate props to Circle,  Circle does seem to have international aspirations... accordingly, it will likely be expanding its reach outside of the USA in coming years... but, I anticipate that it is focusing on the USA to be its initial lucrative market.. and means to get its feet wet in the bitcoin space... and then will likely attempt to expand "USA acceptable" practices on a global level (maybe with some local specific tinkering here and there).  Maybe, for good or for bad, Circle views itself as the McD's of bitcoin?     M

REMEMBER THAT: You heard it here, first, maybe we can name-change Circle to "McC's"?  

Good thing circle is useless anyway, but i really dislike any kind of company that limits their service to the USA. Especially internet companies which have no reason to exclude the rest of the world.

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[bitcoinsrus]

Maybe usa is a test market and they will expand when they are gaining popularity. I am sure they would want to gain more exposure overtime

[Parazyd]

That looks like a fairly awesome app for Android users.    I have an IPhone, so there is no iphone version.  Maybe someday soon Apple will allow the return of some of these kinds of apps to the ITunes store?

In case you missed the news, they already allow bitcoin apps again.
Now it is up to the developers.

YES>>>> I saw some of the new articles about Apple re-allowing some of the crypto-currency apps (possibly applying to bitcoin transmittal and storage apps).

  Accordingly, I have been searching the Apple Itunes store for "new" or "renewed" bitcoin apps.  Initially, I thought that the Coinbase and Blockchain app would re-emerge in the store (since they were already there in December 2013 and March 2014 respectively), and then probably we would witness some other apps in the ITunes store... such as the cool Coinbase related app that you pointed out (Coinbase Trader).... however, so far, NO new or returning apps have appeared in the ITunes store.

Certainly, there has been some statements of optimism in the bitcoin space concerning this news concerning Apple; however, I remain of the belief that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I will believe it when I see certain kinds of bitcoin apps (such as wallets and transmitting apps) reappear in the ITunes store.  Crossing my fingers - hoping for the best.

Circle (or similar) translated in every language and some form off facebook integration would be great!

My understanding regarding the initial Circle.com roll out is that it is ONLY going to be serving customers with USA banking accounts, and as we all likely realize, USA - centric businesses do NOT tend to be too quick in recognizing any kind of need for other languages, other than English.

On the other hand, to give appropriate props to Circle,  Circle does seem to have international aspirations... accordingly, it will likely be expanding its reach outside of the USA in coming years... but, I anticipate that it is focusing on the USA to be its initial lucrative market.. and means to get its feet wet in the bitcoin space... and then will likely attempt to expand "USA acceptable" practices on a global level (maybe with some local specific tinkering here and there).  Maybe, for good or for bad, Circle views itself as the McD's of bitcoin?       M

REMEMBER THAT: You heard it here, first, maybe we can name-change Circle to "McC's"? 

Good thing circle is useless anyway, but i really dislike any kind of company that limits their service to the USA. Especially internet companies which have no reason to exclude the rest of the world.

It's the 3-letter agencies. What else could it be?

[JorgeStolfi]

btw. I see Bitfinex leading with the price now.

Only if it is relative to Bitstamp and/or BTC-e?

In the 1m chart, the last pump was

  Bitfinex: first hint 19:09, for real 19:10

  Huobi and OKCoin: first hint 19:07, for real 19:08

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[JayJuanGee]

That looks like a fairly awesome app for Android users.    I have an IPhone, so there is no iphone version.  Maybe someday soon Apple will allow the return of some of these kinds of apps to the ITunes store?

In case you missed the news, they already allow bitcoin apps again.
Now it is up to the developers.

YES>>>> I saw some of the new articles about Apple re-allowing some of the crypto-currency apps (possibly applying to bitcoin transmittal and storage apps).

  Accordingly, I have been searching the Apple Itunes store for "new" or "renewed" bitcoin apps.  Initially, I thought that the Coinbase and Blockchain app would re-emerge in the store (since they were already there in December 2013 and March 2014 respectively), and then probably we would witness some other apps in the ITunes store... such as the cool Coinbase related app that you pointed out (Coinbase Trader).... however, so far, NO new or returning apps have appeared in the ITunes store.

Certainly, there has been some statements of optimism in the bitcoin space concerning this news concerning Apple; however, I remain of the belief that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I will believe it when I see certain kinds of bitcoin apps (such as wallets and transmitting apps) reappear in the ITunes store.  Crossing my fingers - hoping for the best.

Circle (or similar) translated in every language and some form off facebook integration would be great!

My understanding regarding the initial Circle.com roll out is that it is ONLY going to be serving customers with USA banking accounts, and as we all likely realize, USA - centric businesses do NOT tend to be too quick in recognizing any kind of need for other languages, other than English.

On the other hand, to give appropriate props to Circle,  Circle does seem to have international aspirations... accordingly, it will likely be expanding its reach outside of the USA in coming years... but, I anticipate that it is focusing on the USA to be its initial lucrative market.. and means to get its feet wet in the bitcoin space... and then will likely attempt to expand "USA acceptable" practices on a global level (maybe with some local specific tinkering here and there).  Maybe, for good or for bad, Circle views itself as the McD's of bitcoin?     M

REMEMBER THAT: You heard it here, first, maybe we can name-change Circle to "McC's"?  

Good thing circle is useless anyway, but i really dislike any kind of company that limits their service to the USA. Especially internet companies which have no reason to exclude the rest of the world.

I believe that they are attempting a certain marketing philosophy to build confidence of the typical USA consumer within compliance of the complicated and frequently contradictory USA regulatory regime... and if they can conquer the USA market, then the company will be stronger to push for global expansion of its business model.   This approach does NOT necessarily seem to be xenophobic in this case - especially when a company is just starting out within a uncertain market.   

On the other hand, whether Circle's business plan is more successful than other potential business plans may be another question all together (and time may reveal the answer to this question)?  You may be correct in what seems to be your implication that a more global business approach may be better in a variety of ways, including the impression that the business creates for its various potential world-wide located customers.

[JayJuanGee]

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I believe you made a mistake in the poll... it goes from $600s to $500s....


Also, sometimes it can be very difficult to pin down a prediction of an exact price, especially if guestimating in between two price points.... what about using ranges instead of set price points?  Either way, I will do my best to guestimate and to vote.

Que le paso a Adam?

[akujin]

stamp! 

[Erdogan]

Debt is money. Taxes are freedom. Boring is good.

Black is white, 2 + 2 = 5, liberals for liberty, conservatives for change, governments have to loan, war is good for prosperity, self sacrifice is good for you, the dominators wants the best for you, the president can mourn with the family of a dead soldier.

Ah, now I GET IT. You were sarcastic!!! Haha, i see right thru you there!!!!

[madmat]

Bedtime for me, now.

I just bought 10BTC, and maybe I will buy another 10 in the morning... or maybe later in the day... depending upon how I feel... At this point, I would rather see down, rather than up, but my 10BTC hedges in the event that prices go up while I am sleeping.

Each time I send some fiat to my favorite exchange, I can't wait more than 2 days before converting it to bitcoin. Always afraid of price skyrocketing before I buy. It seems I am not the only one.

I found a solution, if the trend is bearish, I make a trailing order.

So far, I have been buying through Coinbase, which seems to be the cheapest solution for me to obtain BTC.  So far, Coinbase does NOT allow the creation of orders, otherwise I would create orders in order that I do NOT need to watch the price so much in attempt to time my buys.  

I buy on kraken, fees are 0,20% and withdraw is 0,0005btc. This is cheap. But I am in eurozone and they have volume, not sure USD volume is sufficient to make good buys.

From your description, those fees seem better than what Coinbase has been providing.  Coinbase is 1% to buy BTC and 1% to sell.  Plus $.15 per transaction. 

Coinbase's prices are also usually within a few dollars of the Bitstamp price, and frequently, it seems impossible to take advantage, exactly, of the most extreme BTC price fluctuations of Bitstamp b/c of the seemingly delayed responsiveness of Coinbase's pricing.

I am looking forward to receiving an invitation from Circle.com, and to see how that plays out.  Since they are proclaiming to have zero transactional fees, it will be interesting to see what kinds of restrictions that they are going to put in place in order to disincentivize China-type high volume and frequent trading.

I checked on kraken web site (https://www.kraken.com/help/fees-and-pair-info#XXBTZUSD) and fees are higher fort USD (0.30%) than fort euros (0.20%).

[boumalo]

btw. I see Bitfinex leading with the price now.

Only if it is relative to Bitstamp and/or BTC-e?

In the 1m chart, the last pump was

  Bitfinex: first hint 19:09, for real 19:10

  Huobi and OKCoin: first hint 19:07, for real 19:08

It is going down at the moment but there will be a few big buyers before the week ends, will the traders decide to follow and buy or to wait and see

[akujin]

 

[Richy_T]

Explanation

I was promised boom earlier in this thread. Disappointed...

[deadley]

Explanation

I was promised boom earlier in this thread. Disappointed...

Everyone disappointed here, was expecting big boom today but it is still downside/sideways movement.

[Torque]

Explanation

I was promised boom earlier in this thread. Disappointed...

Everyone disappointed here, was expecting big boom today but it is still downside/sideways movement.

Where is our begh...

[okthen]

Explanation

I was promised boom earlier in this thread. Disappointed...

Everyone disappointed here, was expecting big boom today but it is still downside/sideways movement.

Bitcoin is disappointing us negatively this week.
The poll still seems rather bullish!

[Davyd05]

Patience, that is all !

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[findftp]

Bitcoin is disappointing us negatively this week.
The poll still seems rather bullish!

That's the problem, everybody is already loaded and have no spare FIAT to buy more.

[MatTheCat]

btw. I see Bitfinex leading with the price now.

I don't!

I see considerably larger (reported) volume on Bifinex taking their BTC spot price some $10 higher than on Bitstamp, whilst compartively lower selling pressure on Bitstamp takes the price right back down to the trendline, and Bitfinex then follows suit.

Bitstamp is the leading USD exchange. It would take a mountain of activity on the other exchanges to get Bitstamp to react to them. Bitfinex, BTC-e and such would have to go $30 or something higher before Bitstamp would react in order to claim the arbitrage from the other less liquid, less trustworthy exchanges. Perhaps this is because all the volume on Bitstamp is real volume whereas the other exchanges dable in the black art of 'rigging the numbers'?