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October 10, 2014, 10:16:48 AM |
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I think today the stock markets will go down significantly.
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razorramon
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October 10, 2014, 10:18:46 AM |
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someone said cup and handle yesterday...
a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...
if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon
in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt
He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000. this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to... it's not always a conspiracy ... and if you love conspiracies so much you could read into: kobane, ukraine crisis, wtc or whatever suits you |
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tarmi
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October 10, 2014, 10:22:28 AM |
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someone said cup and handle yesterday...
a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...
if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon
in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt
He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000. this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to... makes perfectly sense because when we were at 680 with 30 K dump we would go straight to 0. |
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razorramon
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October 10, 2014, 10:22:45 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in?  would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range |
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October 10, 2014, 10:22:51 AM |
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someone said cup and handle yesterday...
a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...
if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon
in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt
He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000. this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to... it's not always a conspiracy ... and if you love conspiracies so much you could read into: kobane, ukraine crisis, wtc or whatever suits you I stay far away from conspiracies. No idea why you suggest i would like conspiracies. Don't be stupid. All i'm saying is i see the same dumps as i've been seeing the last few months and they took us down. And will do so again. Or they are just traders. Then you can thank the fucking traders for once again screwing up the market and stopping new people from buying. |
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razorramon
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October 10, 2014, 10:25:37 AM |
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someone said cup and handle yesterday...
a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...
if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon
in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt
He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000. this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to... makes perfectly sense because when we were at 680 with 30 K dump we would go straight to 0. and why should he dump 30k again if way less would do the same job?...this is just fear spreading...if someone really wants us down there...we would be there already... |
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tarmi
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October 10, 2014, 10:27:38 AM |
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someone said cup and handle yesterday...
a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...
if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon
in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt
He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000. this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to... makes perfectly sense because when we were at 680 with 30 K dump we would go straight to 0. and why should he dump 30k again if way less would do the same job? because at this price level there are a lot of bulls and market is more liquid, so you need bigger cannons. |
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FNG
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October 10, 2014, 10:30:40 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts. Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily |
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razorramon
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October 10, 2014, 10:31:56 AM |
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and why should he dump 30k again if way less would do the same job?
because at this price level there are a lot of bulls and market is more liquid. no...it's really thin right now...a few k in either direction could make a huge impact...and there is also competition with everyone else in the market... |
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razorramon
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October 10, 2014, 10:32:31 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts. Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily this sounds so btc-e |
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tarmi
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October 10, 2014, 10:33:07 AM |
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and why should he dump 30k again if way less would do the same job?
because at this price level there are a lot of bulls and market is more liquid. no...it's really thin right now...a few k in either direction could make a huge impact...and there is also competition with everyone else in the market... to me that sounds like the final capitulation is coming. |
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DaRude
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October 10, 2014, 10:33:17 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts. Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily Hate to burst your bubble but take a look at longs. They just sucked up all available swaps no more free money. And $ wise they outnumber the shorts by far. Or you can just disregard this and keep looking at shorts |
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FNG
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October 10, 2014, 10:36:27 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts. Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily Hate to burst your bubble but take a look at longs. They just sucked up all available swaps no more free money. And $ wise they outnumber the shorts by far. Or you can just disregard this and keep looking at shorts ? Free money would be setting an ask of several thousand btc above $1000 and then buying 10k btc on market. Forced liquidation sends the price stratospheric filling your asks. You then get btc plus several million $'s. Free money |
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DaRude
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October 10, 2014, 10:40:06 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts. Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily Hate to burst your bubble but take a look at longs. They just sucked up all available swaps no more free money. And $ wise they outnumber the shorts by far. Or you can just disregard this and keep looking at shorts ? Free money would be setting an ask of several thousand btc above $1000 and then buying 10k btc on market. Forced liquidation sends the price stratospheric filling your asks. You then get btc plus several million $'s. Free money Great theory...assuming longs wont be closing... |
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FNG
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October 10, 2014, 10:55:28 AM |
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14,477 short rapidly approaching the depth of the order book |
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tarmi
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October 10, 2014, 10:57:43 AM |
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and they keep talking about shorts, never mind the 22 mil of longs opened since when? |
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spin
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October 10, 2014, 10:58:48 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts. Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily Hate to burst your bubble but take a look at longs. They just sucked up all available swaps no more free money. And $ wise they outnumber the shorts by far. Or you can just disregard this and keep looking at shorts ? Free money would be setting an ask of several thousand btc above $1000 and then buying 10k btc on market. Forced liquidation sends the price stratospheric filling your asks. You then get btc plus several million $'s. Free money Great theory...assuming longs wont be closing... You have a point I think: I just checked and there are $21m in open USD swaps. Assuming these have gone long BTC then you get 21m/360 = 58300 BTC longs (assuming none are long some of the other bitfinex assets). Against that you have 14 400 BTC swaps which are presumable all shorts. I think this implies a *net* long squeeze rather than short squeeze is possible. So if priced moved up your 14 400 swaps may well be eaten up by open longs closing to take profit. Whereas if the price moved down the longs will have to close and there won't be enough shorts to eat them up... |
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ChartBuddy
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October 10, 2014, 11:01:07 AM |
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October 10, 2014, 11:03:37 AM |
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and they keep talking about shorts, never mind the 22 mil of longs opened since when? +1 |
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kurious
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October 10, 2014, 11:06:39 AM |
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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.
Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc
50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range indeed. Could send the price over 5k on finex and have a ton of liquidated butt hurt shorts. Other exchanges would move up at least $100 probably more temporarily Hate to burst your bubble but take a look at longs. They just sucked up all available swaps no more free money. And $ wise they outnumber the shorts by far. Or you can just disregard this and keep looking at shorts ? Free money would be setting an ask of several thousand btc above $1000 and then buying 10k btc on market. Forced liquidation sends the price stratospheric filling your asks. You then get btc plus several million $'s. Free money Great theory...assuming longs wont be closing... You have a point I think: I just checked and there are $21m in open USD swaps. Assuming these have gone long BTC then you get 21m/360 = 58300 BTC longs (assuming none are long some of the other bitfinex assets). Against that you have 14 400 BTC swaps which are presumable all shorts. I think this implies a *net* long squeeze rather than short squeeze is possible. So if priced moved up your 14 400 swaps may well be eaten up by open longs closing to take profit. Whereas if the price moved down the longs will have to close and there won't be enough shorts to eat them up... But hey - when was Bitcoin ever volatile  Interesting times. Off to stock up on popcorn, just in case. |
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