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Jobs report negative, stock market soars.

Jobs report positive, stock market soars moar.

Fiat printer goes brrr.

Such sophisticate.

The stock market is so uber 'bullish' even bankrupt companies like Hertz are rallying... Shocked

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Today at 03:48:18 PM

Haven't been online much recently, did I miss much here?
Hi again to fellow hat wearers out there  Cheesy

Price went up, then it went down and then it went back up again.

It's only been a couple of months, I remember the drop, looks like price has moved up nicely from the $7K area where I thought it would pull-back  Cool
Hopefully I've come back in time to try and pick out the short-term top of this nice rally Cheesy But likelihood is I'll be wrong again  Tongue
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why don't you "deversify" into ledger?

I don't even do hardware wallets.

software...software makes me nervous
I started hating both ledger and trezor when they opened to shitcoins. I hoped that at least Slush would have saved trezor from altcoins.
I only wanted a Bitcoin hardware wallet! Was I asking too much?
So I got rid of my Nano s and trezor one.

Real hodlers use paper wallets.
Shit like mindrust want happen with it.
A. number one in security
B. takes to long to sent coins to exchange to panic sell
C. to lazy to even get going, hodle on
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Today at 04:19:06 PM

Haven't been online much recently, did I miss much here?
Hi again to fellow hat wearers out there  Cheesy

Price went up, then it went down and then it went back up again.

It's only been a couple of months, I remember the drop, looks like price has moved up nicely from the $7K area where I thought it would pull-back  Cool
Hopefully I've come back in time to try and pick out the short-term top of this nice rally Cheesy But likelihood is I'll be wrong again  Tongue

Surely, as you have suggested, nothing can be taken for granted in bitcoin.

Many times it would be logical to presume that if there is a lot of UPward BTC price movement, then a correction would be in order.  However, we have crossed a decent amount of these sub $10k prices several times in the past, and sometimes bitcoin has shown itself to just be tired of continuing to pass through a range that it has passed through so many times.

In other words, sometimes it just becomes time to move on and to move up... but when that time comes is frequently difficult to identify with any kind of short-term precision.. so frequently, the most profitable folks in bitcoin seems to be those who error on the side of mostly preparing for UP, and maybe taking a slight hedging position in down - even though the down hedging position could remove some of the UP profits, in the even that outrageous exorbitant UP ends up coming at some point... which is far from guaranteed.


why don't you "deversify" into ledger?

I don't even do hardware wallets.

software...software makes me nervous
I started hating both ledger and trezor when they opened to shitcoins. I hoped that at least Slush would have saved trezor from altcoins.
I only wanted a Bitcoin hardware wallet! Was I asking too much?
So I got rid of my Nano s and trezor one.

Real hodlers use paper wallets.
Shit like mindrust want happen with it.
A. number one in security
B. takes to long to sent coins to exchange to panic sell
C. to lazy to even get going, hodle on

I agree that there can be some advantage to having some of your coins in places that are not easy to access for security and plausible deniability purposes; however, one of the primary tools to arm a HODLer from engaging in panic behavior continues to be having solid planning and preparation for outrageous BTC price moves (whether we are talking down or up).  
Some HODLers know that it is NOT a good thing to gamble too much of their stash, but they do it anyhow, and maybe they even know that they are inclined to panic, but they still keep the panic option open with the placement of their coins and in their own minds where they mentally keep such panic options open.

Even though there are a decent number of supporters (advocates) of paper wallets, I have doubts about whether they are really the remedy for a large number of BTC HODLers, including HODLers with weak minds and otherwise weak and inadequate preparations.
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... I believe something historic is going to happen in Washington D.C. this weekend. A huge rally of over a million souls, probably many more will be converging on the bloated swamp of corruption and self-interest, commonly called the federal government, to demand change.

The People have finally showed up to hold the government to account after a sustained train of abuses and oppression that can no longer be tolerated and will be removed by force if necessary.

The US army has been stood down from DC after it was explained to the President he would be in direct violation of the Constitution and possibly subject to treason and removal if he ordered them to turn their guns on the People.

Now a veritable private army of armed federal agents, many unwilling to identify themselves, are being called up from the alphabet soup of agencies who have come to infest Washington numbering perhaps 50,000 strong will have to face The People they have looted for so many years and explain to their faces why they choose to oppress them while livng off their goodwill and treasure.

George Washington will be watching if America chooses Freedom for it's future.

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Today at 04:34:49 PM

Haven't been online much recently, did I miss much here?
Hi again to fellow hat wearers out there  Cheesy

Price went up, then it went down and then it went back up again.

It's only been a couple of months, I remember the drop, looks like price has moved up nicely from the $7K area where I thought it would pull-back  Cool
Hopefully I've come back in time to try and pick out the short-term top of this nice rally Cheesy But likelihood is I'll be wrong again  Tongue

Nope. This is NOT a top and this is NOT a rally (yet). Slow rise to ATH until November-December 2020 is the most pessimistic scenario I can think of.   Cool
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... I believe something historic is going to happen in Washington D.C. this weekend. A huge rally of over a million souls, probably many more will be converging on the bloated swamp of corruption and self-interest, commonly called the federal government, to demand change.

Seriously I gotta ask, how old you?

Look up "Million Man March". Happened 25 years ago.

And guess what? Nothing changed after that. Nothing. In fact things got worse.

"But this time things are different".
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Price went up, then it went down and then it went back up again.

JJG, your T/A is without  equal.
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Today at 05:10:39 PM

Haven't been online much recently, did I miss much here?
Hi again to fellow hat wearers out there  Cheesy

Price went up, then it went down and then it went back up again.

It's only been a couple of months, I remember the drop, looks like price has moved up nicely from the $7K area where I thought it would pull-back  Cool
Hopefully I've come back in time to try and pick out the short-term top of this nice rally Cheesy But likelihood is I'll be wrong again  Tongue

Nope. This is NOT a top and this is NOT a rally (yet). Slow rise to ATH until November-December 2020 is the most pessimistic scenario I can think of.   Cool

I can think of more pessimistic scenarios.

But, I am not going to share them...  Tongue Tongue Tongue


Price went up, then it went down and then it went back up again.

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Seriously I gotta ask, how old you?

Look up "Million Man March". Happened 25 years ago.

And guess what? Nothing changed after that. Nothing. In fact things got worse.

"But this time things are different".

You might be right (ok, you are) but the spirit survived.
That's the main point.

And well, things always get worse, don't they?
 
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Seriously I gotta ask, how old you?

Look up "Million Man March". Happened 25 years ago.

And guess what? Nothing changed after that. Nothing. In fact things got worse.

"But this time things are different".

You might be right (ok, you are) but the spirit survived.
That's the main point.

And well, things always get worse, don't they?
 
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Rome wasn't conquered within in a day.

Don't get me wrong, I love the (meaningful) protesting, I love the energy and spirit, really I do.

But as always with youth, the energy is always misdirected to a place where it will do little good.

Instead of marching on Washington D.C. en mass and going for the national "photo op", have 10K+ people instead march directly to the street of each of their respective Senators' houses. Camp out on their front lawn (figuratively of course), block their street with a list of specific demands, and tell their Senators that if they don't help draft and pass legislation to change those things, they are voted out in the next election.

If protesters aren't affecting or inconveniencing the Senators' lives directly in some way, nothing will change. Senators probably don't even have time to watch TV, so with a march on Washington they can just choose ignore it.
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Seriously I gotta ask, how old you?

Look up "Million Man March". Happened 25 years ago.

And guess what? Nothing changed after that. Nothing. In fact things got worse.

"But this time things are different".

You might be right (ok, you are) but the spirit survived.
That's the main point.

And well, things always get worse, don't they?
 
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Rome wasn't conquered within in a day.

Don't get me wrong, I love the (meaningful) protesting, I love the energy and spirit, really I do.

But as always with youth, the energy is always misdirected to a place where it will do little good.

Instead of marching on Washington D.C. and going for the national "photo op", have 100K+ people instead march directly to the street of each of their respective Senators' houses. Camp out on their front lawn, or block their street with a list of specific demands, and tell their Senator that if they don't draft and pass legislation to change those things, they are voted out in the next election.

If protesters aren't affecting the Senators lives directly in some way, nothing will change. Senators probably don't even have time to watch TV, so with a march on Washington they can just choose ignore it.

Why would anyone march against non-polarizing characters when they have someone who seeks to attract their attention and wants to create DC as a battle ground. 

Yeah, many Americans are mad as hell and don't want to take it anymore about a lot of disparate things, so it is not very easy for masses of people to either be directed in their message regarding so many perceived injustices (whether real or not).

Non-protesters benefit from the actions and sacrifices of protesters who are attempting to cause the government to be more responsive, responsible and accountable, and so property is damaged and lives are lost, while a lot of the benefits do end up flowing to the non-protesters.. who are not as likely to suffer direct physical damage, arrests or to get put on blacklists.

Trump likely believes that all of the chaos and attention works to his advantage, and we have even heard that he relishes in the idea to have DC as a test ground for his desire for federal policing actions.. yes unprecedented calling for the activation of federal forces to quell and suppress the rights of Americans to assemble, protest and speak.., and maybe he will be able to play a lot of the ongoing chaos that he has purposefully been exacerbating to his favor for the next 5 months, yet maybe he will overplay his cards or reveal his true evilness, selfishness, destructiveness and inabilities to really serve anyone except for himself..

So, yes time will only show whether he is able to come out as a success to the extent that his ongoing provocations motivates a variety of rational and irrational out bursts including the physical actions of actual people traveling to DC to give him the attention that he seems to want.. and wants to use tax payer dollars to battle the enemy.. doesn't he call the battle against antifa?  Seems like lots of "antifa" planning to travel to DC.. and how will it go?  how will it go?  No more minneapolis, now going to DC..... right?
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Directly from my quarantine secret location (yeah, still in the cave, even if Italy is now out of lockdown, as you can see from my hat),
it's time to update my

Wall Observer Meta Post!

Sorry if I contaminate the WO with a boring meta post, but I need to keep to the old habits to feel "normal"

This is a Monthly post, so it will consider the merits sent during the month of March.
Consequently I had to wait for the last merit dump, that included the last day of the month.

Merit analysis based on @LoyceV merit file: http://loyce.club/Merit/merit.all.txt
Merit updated to May, 31th, 2019 23:59:59 UTC

Total merits sent on WO:     48103
Monthly Merits sent on WO: 2488 (+48 vs previous month)
Merited Users: 719 (+16 vs previous month)

We are back to average level in the WO thread, hopefully the 5 digits will hepl gaining ome momentum, as quarantine didn't help getting more action in the thread.

We have a new king of the hill on top of the chart: @Last of the V8's is now the most merited user in the WO thread! Bend your knee to LotV8's!
El Duderino took his revenge in the equally important chart of most genereous senders, topping the monthly chart and closing the gap with the leader JJG.

Usual addition of new faces around, nice!
WO is still the place to be!


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4.HairyMaclairy           1638
5.LFC_Bitcoin             1548
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96.StartupAnalyst           62
97.Totscha                  59
98.Anon136                  56
99.HI-TEC99                 56
100.empowering              55
                        
                            
TOP 100 MONTHLY WO RECEIVERS:

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1.Last of the V8s          232
2.JayJuanGee               108
3.AlcoHoDL                 107
4.bitebits                  98
5.Toxic2040                 89
6.LFC_Bitcoin               78
7.jojo69                    78
8.HairyMaclairy             77
9.JSRAW                     77
10.JimboToronto             76
11.VB1001                   70
12.El duderino_              60
13.Hueristic                54
14.marcus_of_augustus       53
15.Paashaas                 49
16.Phil_S                   49
17.bkbirge                  47
18.Arriemoller              43
19.Globb0                   40
20.xhomerx10                39
21.Room101                  39
22.infofront                36
23.lightfoot                36
24.serveria.com             36
25.cAPSLOCK                 35
26.Elwar                    32
27.600watt                  30
28.LUCKMCFLY                29
29.Wekkel                   28
30.Krubster                 28
31.DaRude                   27
32.ivomm                    25
33.nutildah                 24
34.BobLawblaw               23
35.Raja_MBZ                 22
36.OutOfMemory              22
37.vapourminer              20
38.fillippone               19
39.Biodom                   19
40.psycodad                 18
41.Torque                   16
42.gentlemand               16
43.jbreher                  16
44.rdbase                   16
45.heslo                    15
46.machasm                  15
47.kurious                  14
48.Lambie Slayer            12
49.Pamoldar                 12
50.kellrobinson             12
51.sirazimuth               11
52.Cryptotourist            10
53.Dunkelheit667            10
54.bitserve                  9
55.Bitcoinaire               9
56.strawbs                   9
57.soullyG                   9
58.rolling                   8
59.Ibian                     7
60.akhjob                    7
61.d_eddie                   6
62.bitcoinPsycho             6
63.Searing                   6
64.Millionero                6
65.Tash                      6
66.virasog                   6
67.MFahad                    6
68.Icygreen                  5
69.becoin                    5
70.SwayStar123               5
71.koryu                     5
72.buwaytress                5
73.matt4054                  5
74.BitcoinsGreat             5
75.soxxx                     4
76.Speculatoross             4
77.smartcomet                4
78.Hyperjacked               4
79.gwaur                     4
80.noormcs5                  4
81.WastedLTC                 4
82.FIFA worldcup             4
83.eXPHHorizon               4
84.vroom                     3
85.somac.                    3
86.STT                       3
87.bitbollo                  3
88.UnDerDoG81                3
89.Raytheon                  3
90.TheBeardedBaby            3
91.SeaBits                   3
92.Jawhead999                3
93.~Money~                   3
94.BitcoinNewsMagazine       2
95.hodl_2015                 2
96.JL0                       2
97.Lucius                    2
98.tranthidung               2
99.cygan                     2
100.1miau                    2

           

TOP 100 MONTHLY WO SENDERS:

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1.El duderino_              362
2.JayJuanGee               344
3.LFC_Bitcoin              157
4.BobLawblaw               141
5.vapourminer              130
6.Last of the V8s          112
7.Globb0                    67
8.Hueristic                 55
9.infofront                 54
10.jojo69                   54
11.VB1001                   51
12.600watt                  50
13.bitebits                 49
14.Toxic2040                44
15.JimboToronto             43
16.nutildah                 41
17.AlcoHoDL                 40
18.rdbase                   31
19.HairyMaclairy            30
20.fillippone               27
21.suchmoon                 26
22.JSRAW                    26
23.bkbirge                  24
24.Torque                   22
25.lightfoot                21
26.Paashaas                 19
27.xhomerx10                18
28.Icygreen                 18
29.ivomm                    18
30.sirazimuth               18
31.serveria.com             18
32.gentlemand               17
33.Raja_MBZ                 17
34.DaRude                   17
35.Phil_S                   16
36.cAPSLOCK                 15
37.jbreher                  13
38.Biodom                   13
39.Wekkel                   12
40.Arriemoller              12
41.psycodad                 12
42.Bitcoinaire              12
43.OutOfMemory              12
44.Room101                  12
45.Ibian                    11
46.Dunkelheit667            11
47.bones261                 10
48.LUCKMCFLY                10
49.WastedLTC                10
50.rolling                   8
51.machasm                   8
52.bitserve                  7
53.Pamoldar                  7
54.strawbs                   6
55.soullyG                   5
56.somac.                    5
57.Hyperjacked               5
58.Krubster                  5
59.Searing                   4
60.bitcoinPsycho             4
61.DeathAngel                4
62.bitbollo                  4
63.philipma1957              4
64.Cryptotourist             3
65.Karartma1                 3
66.Majormax                  3
67.kaicrypzen                3
68.heslo                     3
69.HeRetiK                   3
70.Quickseller               3
71.kurious                   2
72.smartcomet                2
73.Neo_Coin                  2
74.buwaytress                2
75.tranthidung               2
76.V8s Road Warrior          2
77.TheBeardedBaby            2
78.random_australian         2
79.eXPHHorizon               2
80.UmerIdrees                2
81.bitbunnny                 2
82.kellrobinson              2
83.d_eddie                   1
84.yefi                      1
85.ErisDiscordia             1
86.ssmc2                     1
87.P_Shep                    1
88.vroom                     1
89.xyzzy099                  1
90.Elwar                     1
91.julian071                 1
92.criptix                   1
93.ChinkyEyes                1
94.afbitcoins                1
95.erre                      1
96.fluidjax                  1
97.BitcoinNewsMagazine       1
98.hodl_2015                 1
99.BayAreaCoins              1
100.NeuroticFish             1

  
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SMerits Balance=Received Merits/2-Sent Merits

Positive Balance means an user has been increasing sMerits on the WO thread, while negative numbers means the users has sent more merits on WO than received.
Negative numbers are possible or because he has been generous this week because he has been greedy past weeks (so only temporary imbalance), or because he has hoarded sMerits on other threads spending them on WO thread, or because he's a merit source.

TOP 20 MONTHLY NET RECEIVERS
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1.marcus_of_augustus      26.5
2.Elwar                     15
3.AlcoHoDL                13.5
4.JSRAW                   12.5
5.Arriemoller              9.5
6.Krubster                   9
7.Phil_S                   8.5
8.HairyMaclairy            8.5
9.Room101                  7.5
10.Lambie Slayer             6
11.Paashaas                5.5
12.kurious                   5
13.LUCKMCFLY               4.5
14.heslo                   4.5
15.Last of the V8s           4
16.kellrobinson              4
17.akhjob                  3.5
18.Tash                      3
19.Millionero                3
20.cAPSLOCK                2.5

TOP 20 MONTHLY WO NET SENDERS
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1.El duderino_             -332
2.JayJuanGee              -290
3.BobLawblaw            -129.5
4.vapourminer             -120
5.LFC_Bitcoin             -118
6.Globb0                   -47
7.infofront                -36
8.600watt                  -35
9.nutildah                 -29
10.Hueristic               -28
11.suchmoon                -26
12.rdbase                  -23
13.fillippone            -17.5
14.VB1001                  -16
15.Icygreen              -15.5
16.jojo69                  -15
17.Torque                  -14
18.sirazimuth            -12.5
19.bones261                -10
20.gentlemand               -9
                 


TOP Merited Posts on WO this month:

   POSITION      POST      Merits      Author   
   1      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54400555#msg54400555      59       Last of the V8s   
   2      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54520694#msg54520694      38       AlcoHoDL   
   3      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54377353#msg54377353      23       marcus_of_augustus   
   3      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54493457#msg54493457      23       Last of the V8s   
   5      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54349592#msg54349592      16       HairyMaclairy   
   6      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54394162#msg54394162      15       HairyMaclairy   
   7      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54442256#msg54442256      14       Arriemoller   
   8      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54365545#msg54365545      13       AlcoHoDL   
   8      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54505634#msg54505634      13       JSRAW   
   8      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54517161#msg54517161      13       Room101   
                                    

                              
                              

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Seriously I gotta ask, how old you?

Look up "Million Man March". Happened 25 years ago.

And guess what? Nothing changed after that. Nothing. In fact things got worse.

"But this time things are different".

You might be right (ok, you are) but the spirit survived.
That's the main point.

And well, things always get worse, don't they?
 
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Rome wasn't conquered within in a day.

Don't get me wrong, I love the (meaningful) protesting, I love the energy and spirit, really I do.

But as always with youth, the energy is always misdirected to a place where it will do little good.

Instead of marching on Washington D.C. and going for the national "photo op", have 100K+ people instead march directly to the street of each of their respective Senators' houses. Camp out on their front lawn, or block their street with a list of specific demands, and tell their Senator that if they don't draft and pass legislation to change those things, they are voted out in the next election.

If protesters aren't affecting the Senators lives directly in some way, nothing will change. Senators probably don't even have time to watch TV, so with a march on Washington they can just choose ignore it.

Why would anyone march against non-polarizing characters when they have someone who seeks to attract their attention and wants to create DC as a battle ground.  

Yeah, many Americans are mad as hell and don't want to take it anymore about a lot of disparate things, so it is not very easy for masses of people to either be directed in their message regarding so many perceived injustices (whether real or not).

Non-protesters benefit from the actions and sacrifices of protesters who are attempting to cause the government to be more responsive, responsible and accountable, and so property is damaged and lives are lost, while a lot of the benefits do end up flowing to the non-protesters.. who are not as likely to suffer direct physical damage, arrests or to get put on blacklists.

Trump likely believes that all of the chaos and attention works to his advantage, and we have even heard that he relishes in the idea to have DC as a test ground for his desire for federal policing actions.. yes unprecedented calling for the activation of federal forces to quell and suppress the rights of Americans to assemble, protest and speak.., and maybe he will be able to play a lot of the ongoing chaos that he has purposefully been exacerbating to his favor for the next 5 months, yet maybe he will overplay his cards or reveal his true evilness, selfishness, destructiveness and inabilities to really serve anyone except for himself..

So, yes time will only show whether he is able to come out as a success to the extent that his ongoing provocations motivates a variety of rational and irrational out bursts including the physical actions of actual people traveling to DC to give him the attention that he seems to want.. and wants to use tax payer dollars to battle the enemy.. doesn't he call the battle against antifa?  Seems like lots of "antifa" planning to travel to DC.. and how will it go?  how will it go?  No more minneapolis, now going to DC..... right?

As mostly always, people aren't really united. Sure, there are these "police violence", "racism" and "i can't breathe" captions, but as Torque put out, realistic and specific demands and real "connecting values" are missing. (humans mainly solicite on a basis of value). The "crowd" is not organized and tries to fight the very organized establishment, which likely will fail. It's a short affair, and maybe the rage against Trump will have faded out already when the elections finally call for the votes.
 
And not to forget: Believe it or not, most of us are becoming temporary racists in the face of events like FIFA world cup or the olympics. Even people that consider themselves as midst or left(ish). I don't have a link to the underlining study, however.
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  The "crowd" is not organized and tries to fight the very organized establishment, which likely will fail.

That's the trillion dollar question, and surely people define success and failure differently.
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"Rage against Trump"
I like this as a cover band for Rage against the machine. Grin

Tried to find clear livecams point towards washington d.c, namely the white house, last night but none were close enough to see anything expect for the flashing red lights from the cruisers.
I think no sign of the call from trump to bring in the mercenaries for hire into the fray.
Or the crowd of protesters called the anti-heroes bluff. Undecided
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