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Question: Do you support Spoetnik's contributions to the Altcoin Discussions?
YES, I support Spoetnik's contributions here. - 29 (55.8%)
NO, I don't support Spoetnik's contributions here. - 13 (25%)
I don't care - 7 (13.5%)
Who is Spoetnik? - 3 (5.8%)
Total Voters: 52

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February 10, 2017, 05:18:27 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2017, 06:11:52 PM by instacalm
 #1

Quite a lot of people have asked for it (and keep asking for it) so I figured I might as well be the one to post the poll...

The simple question is: Do you personally support Spoetnik's contributions to the Altcoin Discussions?

Yes, or No?

I voted yes, but I will go into more detail: on the one hand I am largely in favour of his contributions for the many anecdotes, the humour, the length of his comments and the overall will and thought that goes into his posts (to list a few reasons). On the other hand, sometimes false information sets him on the wrong track (this happens to all of us at times) and this can lead to long posts in a questionable direction.
 
Overall I have to say though,  *   Spoetnik  *  thank you for your efforts!
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February 10, 2017, 05:37:38 PM
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I will get right to it since you all have A.D.D.
You are all vague.
Like the first post here you claim i was wrong on something but couldn't provide an example.
Further more my account was created before 90% of you here.. so you know fuck all noobs.
AND THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT !

Context = History.

Most of you don't know the history or recognize that this bullshit has degenerated into a cesspool of silly bullshit.
You don't know because you showed up late..................... to profit.
Off of ?
Anything that gives profit.
...lowering the bar here more and more.

And how would you know where the bar is at if you just got here ?
You all act like human dirt then play dumb about it.
Why should i kiss your little greedy kidiot brat profiteer ass's ?

Trying to be friendly and chummy and buddy buddy as you perpetuate Ponzi schemes ?
Means i should smooch your bum and suck up to you all and "make Crypto-friends"

This is not your high school kids.
I didn't come here to make fiends or start communities.

I came here to support a crypto currency so why not start supporting them too people ?

And no slapping some modded block chain bullshit on a new gimmick then ICO'ing it does not make it a currency.

Shit heads in crypto are stupid and greedy and don't deserve any respect.
Why ?
Because they are stupid.. they don't learn.
They are brats and are corrupt and immoral and are fake supporters that spew lies and bullshit here 24/7 so they can profit BITCOIN and FIAT.

Why would i care what you all think if i have no respect for you ?

And get this people.. there is lots of people out there that think the EXACT same thing as me.
It's just that i speak up the most.

I get the privilege of predicting this shit every step of the way and being right and saying I Told You So over and over like a broken record.

"Contributions" ?
Yup line up and lets see your predictions or contributions people.
Just make sure you create a new account first LOL

Here is a guy who agrees with me FOR EXAMPLE

[HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM

That one topic alone created me enemies here.. so hmmmmmmmmmmm i wonder if i made any more ?

..and why ?

FUD first & ask questions later™
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February 10, 2017, 05:41:42 PM
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Most definitely. Imagine if fanboys and shills were allowed to run riot in here without any views to the opposite.
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February 10, 2017, 05:56:22 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2017, 07:13:27 PM by Spoetnik
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The problem is.. the other guy.

It's not me and my coin i am shilling here right now.
It's the other guy who commented before or after me right people ?

Notice anything ?

Coindesk ran a News story years ago saying "The more coins the better"
And you all keep making them.. why ?
Because new people keep showing up to buy them.. for profit.

Yup each person should have their own currency.. the more the better.
in what Universe did that sentence make any sense ?  Roll Eyes

When do you all stop making them ? 1,000 ? 10,000 ? 100,000 ?
Have you looked at the forum stats to see how many people log-in here each day ?

You all perpetuate that everything is fine and more is better and yeah there is a problem just not me and MY COIN.. then make more..

Why ?

Because every guy here wants to be Satoshi sitting on 6 billion worth of coins like V. Butters.

You all can not admit this shit is silly and retarded AND flog your coins to new comers.

You are all the horse i can not force to drink the water.
You are all stubborn and try and make bad work.. at all costs.
Because ?.... you NEED to get paid as WOLF said to me on IRC countless times.
The guy who NEEDS to get paid to do crypto coding work.

You all NEED to support PASCAL ?
Or do you NEED to get "paid" off yet ANOTHER god damn coin ?

oh oh ohh but Pascal is legit.. it's coin #3,453 that is scammy.. nope ! that is FUD.
It's coin #4,310 that is scammy !

Then coin #5,843 comes out and well, hot damn it has a snazzy little ICO gimmick.. HODL MOON BUY GO GO GO !

Then coin #5,844 comes out and on come the fucking SIG campaigns and avatars etc  Roll Eyes

day after day after week after month after year..

Reality:
The general public is not involved.. ALL OF THEM SEE WHAT I SEE period .
Get it ?
Running your mouth here does NOTHING.. it's not working people.

FUD first & ask questions later™
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February 10, 2017, 06:09:24 PM
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Spoetnik, despite all the trolling and nonsense he includes in his posts, brings a lot of pertinent speculation and criticism that is not always touched upon by others. I respect his contributions to the altcoin forums as one of the most valuable individuals within the subforum, even if I don't agree with a lot of what he says and even if a lot of the times he's spewing nonsense to get a response.

Beyond that, petitioning to have someone's opinions removed from the forum really goes against the whole "free speech" idea that cryptocurrency was founded upon.
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February 10, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
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Like I said before. Spoetnik's style amuses me, he is like crude diamond, rough around the edges.
I have to admit that his writing style is a bit arduous to follow and he probably could express his thoughts in shorter posts without all these additional side notes.
He is dedicated to the cause and I admire that, because I hate pointless projects, altcoins tailored only to grab money from your pocket.
I think if Spoetnik would be a little nicer and overall more civil in his comments he could become major talking head of altcoin community.

But well, I am a nobody, don't listen to my comments. I know nothing Smiley
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February 10, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
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He only attacks monero though
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February 10, 2017, 07:22:27 PM
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The length is for a reason.
As i go on i know i will be attacked.
I know people will be picking it apart later and i always get accused of "lies"
Yet no one ever has a word to say about what EXACTLY i lied about.

It's to paint a picture that you all insist on not seeing.
..what i just said earlier (twice)

And then next comment is.. Spoetnik posts to get a rise out of people with dishonest info.

LOL

I'm tiring ? YOU FUCKING people are hahhaha

I appreciate the level of positive feedback you guys posted here though.. thank you.
But i highlighted the disconnect between YOUR coin and the others.
You all point at coin #5,001 and claim all the others are bullshit.
And all the others do the same damn thing with some other coin.

I seen years ago on Wikipedia there was over 5,000 Religions.. all claiming to be "the one"
More importantly.. they are contradicting each other.

All i ever hear is Scientologists crying FUD  Cheesy

PS:
I FUD Ethereum too ..not just Monero "the criminal coin" Wink

Paid your taxes ? handed your ID over yet ? Chanted Free Market / NO LAWS while on the phone with the Police lately ?

Cryptsy idiots cried NO LAWS.. now they are lining up for a class action lawsuit hoping the FBI nab Vern.

Do you SEE the retardness of this shit yet ?

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February 10, 2017, 07:30:29 PM
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Attacks shitcoins with a passion: How can you not support him?

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February 10, 2017, 08:31:50 PM
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Like I said before. Spoetnik's style amuses me, he is like crude diamond, rough around the edges.
I have to admit that his writing style is a bit arduous to follow and he probably could express his thoughts in shorter posts without all these additional side notes.
He is dedicated to the cause and I admire that, because I hate pointless projects, altcoins tailored only to grab money from your pocket.
I think if Spoetnik would be a little nicer and overall more civil in his comments he could become major talking head of altcoin community.

But well, I am a nobody, don't listen to my comments. I know nothing Smiley

Spoet has come a long way since his earlier years. He is bang on about the thievery that goes on around here. Sometimes a gem hides in his ranting and raving. He has made some very thoughtful and intelligent posts but ... ya ... many I skip through because its the same old same old. Then again people need to hear it often for it to sink in. So ... carry on Spoet.

" If you have to spam and shout to justify your existence then you are a shit coin."  TaunSew
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February 10, 2017, 11:33:06 PM
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Attacks shitcoins with a passion: How can you not support him?

Are you not a dash supporter? because I thought you were?


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February 11, 2017, 12:03:59 AM
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He is awesome, he has exposed so many scams, but why he only talks here? If he can talk more in altcoin ANN section, that could be better, there are so many new ICOs, most of them are scams, we need he posts there to warn noobs and let people do not involve in obvious ICO scams.
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February 11, 2017, 12:18:15 AM
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Spoetnik, despite all the trolling and nonsense he includes in his posts, brings a lot of pertinent speculation and criticism that is not always touched upon by others. I respect his contributions to the altcoin forums as one of the most valuable individuals within the subforum, even if I don't agree with a lot of what he says and even if a lot of the times he's spewing nonsense to get a response.


he is a she

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February 11, 2017, 12:20:43 AM
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I'm not particularly fod of the guy but I think that he should be allowed to post whatever he feels like one way or another, especially provided that he isn't infringing on any rules.

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February 11, 2017, 12:51:04 AM
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Spoetnik  undoubtedly contribute some perspective to altcoin discussion.

"...I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism...",  satoshi@vistomail.com
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February 11, 2017, 01:14:55 AM
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The length is for a reason.
As i go on i know i will be attacked.
I know people will be picking it apart later and i always get accused of "lies"
Yet no one ever has a word to say about what EXACTLY i lied about.

It's to paint a picture that you all insist on not seeing.
..what i just said earlier (twice)

And then next comment is.. Spoetnik posts to get a rise out of people with dishonest info.

LOL

I'm tiring ? YOU FUCKING people are hahhaha

I appreciate the level of positive feedback you guys posted here though.. thank you.
But i highlighted the disconnect between YOUR coin and the others.
You all point at coin #5,001 and claim all the others are bullshit.
And all the others do the same damn thing with some other coin.

I seen years ago on Wikipedia there was over 5,000 Religions.. all claiming to be "the one"
More importantly.. they are contradicting each other.

All i ever hear is Scientologists crying FUD  Cheesy

PS:
I FUD Ethereum too ..not just Monero "the criminal coin" Wink

Paid your taxes ? handed your ID over yet ? Chanted Free Market / NO LAWS while on the phone with the Police lately ?

Cryptsy idiots cried NO LAWS.. now they are lining up for a class action lawsuit hoping the FBI nab Vern.

Do you SEE the retardness of this shit yet ?

One question. What is it with Monero do you not like? They have no premine, no ICO and everything started out from scratch. Was it fair? Maybe not because the more technically good people were the only users to start using their CLI. But what is fair? Bitcoin too is not fair.

Is it something about the developers?

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February 11, 2017, 01:34:31 AM
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One question. What is it with Monero do you not like? They have no premine, no ICO and everything started out from scratch. Was it fair? Maybe not because the more technically good people were the only users to start using their CLI. But what is fair? Bitcoin too is not fair.

Is it something about the developers?

THIS !
https://decentralize.today/monero-had-the-same-bug-as-shadow-33a86ddeac2e#.l6nt2m3q5

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You should really rename this “Dick Move by a Monero Developer” because that is what that was. I have zero tolerance for that kind of childish self-serving bullshit. How amateurish of Shen. Geez. Thanks for putting it all together.

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February 11, 2017, 01:39:28 AM
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Support?  As I said in the other thread, his negative, trolling flame-festivals are usually on the money as far as the altcoin scene goes.  All these new issues are designed to fleece the suckers on this forum--and those suckers keep falling for this crap, constantly.  Is he pretty abrasive?  Yes.  But this thread is about his 'contributions', so I think slamming these shitcoins is totally appropriate.

However, I can't say I've read all his posts, so I'd like to add that qualification to my opinion.

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February 11, 2017, 01:53:05 AM
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@bbc.reporter
I have explained a LOT.
So have others..

The problem is the scene itself.

And especially this forum and how it has played out.
It can be gamed and the Monero guys know it.

It boils down to posting a lie here enough that it turns into the truth here.
..for profit.

Take for example Quark.. people wanted to attack it and some guys started spreading rumors it was premined.
It was not.
But that ended up becoming the commonly held belief because it was repeated enough here.
(forum posting tactics)

Monero ?
The people behind it are bullshitters and have a track record of doing things they shouldn't
It's insulting to those of us watching Monero since day 1.
Watching them all run around pretending they have squeaky clean image / track record.
If any other coin "community" pulled half the shit they did they would be flamed heavily.

Monero is popular today because of one thing.
The fact the scene degenerated so badly that they now look better than all the other ICO schemes etc.
By default they look better (on the surface)
Had others came here and made better and better coins Monero would have been left in the dust with Terracoin or World Coin or Krueger Coin or Name Coin or PeerCoin etc.

This forum is a vortex of deceit.
People who spew idealism then turn their back and count their cash.. while violating the rabble they were just chanting.

Monero was not launched as some altruistic vision.
The millionaire who launched it and kept it afloat all this time did so for a reason.
So the shallow hollow pathetic rich man in a castle driving a Bentley can get another Bentley.

I find it funny the dev said what i did all these years defending his GAMBLING SITE HACK.
He copied my words to defend his stupid ass greedy business built off of Monero.
Wallet coded yet ? They have rambled on about priorities huh ?
Like making money off gambling sites with a closed source business ?

Did you all read what the Jaxx wallet guy said ?
In a quick click of a button the Monero dev's wiped out his work.
Decentralized ? Democracy ? Free Market ?
Nope.. Monero is led by a Cabal who pull the strings so things benefit them.
Did the community get a vote or say in that or the MEW funds spent ?
Nope.. the rug was pulled out from under them because the millionaire and their friends paid by the millionaire chose do what ever the hell they wanted to.. behind close doors.
And apparently no matter what they do or how many stunts pile up you all drop to your knee's and suck King Risto's cock as he lays his feet on your back

..as long as those ROI's keep flowing in.

The point ?
This shit is a joke.

You all spew moronic idealistic rabble then throw it out the window seconds later .. for profit.

THEN have the fucking nerve ..no the gall ..no the audacity, to sit there and fucking deny it and play dumb.

Reality CHECK !
Monero gets criticized because they deserve it !
They deserve it because of the actions they have taken.
It is a simple cause & effect.

No one is sitting around fabricating things about them making up (and i quote) "lies"

I can think of one dev or service provider in Crypto who admitted to making mistakes and owning it.. long term.
His name is R3wt.
The rest of you all might on rare occasions admit to a mistake then an hour later pretend you got amnesia.

And the simply brilliant wonderful part of it all is..
The old guys end up leaving as this shit gets worse and new guys pop up with no clue at all what happened in the past.

Perfect system huh ?

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February 11, 2017, 01:59:44 AM
 #20

Support?  As I said in the other thread, his negative, trolling flame-festivals are usually on the money as far as the altcoin scene goes.  All these new issues are designed to fleece the suckers on this forum--and those suckers keep falling for this crap, constantly.  Is he pretty abrasive?  Yes.  But this thread is about his 'contributions', so I think slamming these shitcoins is totally appropriate.

However, I can't say I've read all his posts, so I'd like to add that qualification to my opinion.

Thanks and i of course recall us butting heads lots before.
In case all these guys do not remember we have not gotten along historically.

And i too also skip past a lot of LONG posts by other users here on occasion.. cough cough "Shelby" Wink
I also don't bitch about it unless it goes on for 100 straight pages as it has before..
See Shelby vs Monero way back LOL

Problem is which is the shitcoin ? There is no 1 answer.
It's a battle of perspectives and i only ever try and offer my context to it.
Believe it or not i don't come here to troll and get a rise out of people or piss on Altcoins.
If anything i try and make people laugh and post something interesting.. this all gets super boring year after year.

I am not a saint and i don't care what people do.
What concerns me is the BIG picture overall.

And the fact the majority in control handed over their power to the scammy coin makers in the scene.
For chump change.. i have said all along the path to profit is via a sincere road.
You will all make far more supporting things legit than you will trying to scrounge up pennies from shitty coins.

PS:
The Monero shit could have been dealt with long ago.
Admit past mistakes then move forward.
Their denial has created 100x more problems.
And it's a pattern with them.. they will not change their behavior so the "FUD" continues.
There will be another spent MEW money incident because they don't learn.
They will do it again and again..

They got called out and king Risto who they all claimed has nothing to do with the coin called his own supporters a FUD'er.
Why ?
Because the treasurer who is again not a member of the team held the donated money.
And the other King Risto spent it behind closed doors.. on what ?
A forum topic here as he called it a "powerful adoption asset"
A forum game in the Altcoin section.

How is the coin being run by a rich guy in castle doing what ever he wants acceptable ?

The stunts they pull and the bullshit they spew DESERVES criticism !

FUD first & ask questions later™
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