UFC 212: Aldo vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread

[tokeweed]

Jose Aldo got rocket by Conor McGregor. This card is just not that interesting, the Cormier card is also not that interesting in my book. I think the UFC is failing to come up with great cards lately, at least to catch the attention of the average joe that isnt a fan.

Holloway doesn't have KO power tho.  So I think Aldo has the edge here.  And imho Aldo winning will be much better for the UFC because he'll come after McGregor next.  I can imagine the winning speech already.  He'll call out McGregor.

[thejaytiesto]

Jose Aldo got rocket by Conor McGregor. This card is just not that interesting, the Cormier card is also not that interesting in my book. I think the UFC is failing to come up with great cards lately, at least to catch the attention of the average joe that isnt a fan.

Holloway doesn't have KO power tho.  So I think Aldo has the edge here.  And imho Aldo winning will be much better for the UFC because he'll come after McGregor next.  I can imagine the winning speech already.  He'll call out McGregor.

Aldo is motivated to prove he is one of the best, but McGregor destroyed his confidence, the win by McGregor was too clear, he got KO'd and that is a very bad feeling for fighters and you have it in your head for the future 2 or 3 fights.

[eaLiTy]

Holloway doesn't have KO power tho.  So I think Aldo has the edge here.  And imho Aldo winning will be much better for the UFC because he'll come after McGregor next.  I can imagine the winning speech already.  He'll call out McGregor.

Holloway does not have KO power but he is the only fighter who fought with Conor Mcgregor and went the distance when all the fighters got knocked out,so he is durable and he has improved a lot after that loss,but Aldo is a really tough fighter and is one of the best fighters and i was routing for him to kick the hell out of Mcgregor and lost a huge bet in that match and i really wish to see the rematch between them,but it is really difficult to catch Mcgregor now as he has a long list of fights and that too big money fights.

[bbc.reporter]

@eaLiTy. That is true but that does not mean Aldo cannot win versus Max Holloway. I speculate this fight will be almost the same as Aldo versus Frankie Edgar. Frankie and Max almost have the style. Also another big help for Aldo is the fight will be in Rio de Jianero.

About Conor and Aldo, I am confident that Aldo will get his chance before he retires.

[eaLiTy]

@bbc.reporter I am with Aldo in this encounter because i do consider him the best in the world but i just gave Holloway the credits because he is really young as he is just 25 years of age and he has already accomplished a lot at this age and went the full distance with Conor while he was knocking the rest of the fighters,Aldo was wild and he used to knock everyone out when he came into MMA and then he started to fight smart after becoming the champion and the only time when he lost his cool was against Conor and he got humiliated in that fight and if there is a rematch i am sure Aldo will win but to get that rematch is really difficult with Conor having other plans.

[TravelMug]

@bbc.reporter I am with Aldo in this encounter because i do consider him the best in the world but i just gave Holloway the credits because he is really young as he is just 25 years of age and he has already accomplished a lot at this age and went the full distance with Conor while he was knocking the rest of the fighters,Aldo was wild and he used to knock everyone out when he came into MMA and then he started to fight smart after becoming the champion and the only time when he lost his cool was against Conor and he got humiliated in that fight and if there is a rematch i am sure Aldo will win but to get that rematch is really difficult with Conor having other plans.

Well said, he is young lion and willing to take the crown for the old's one. But Aldo has the experience, the durability and looking for the rematch against Connor. So Aldo will pull this win and fight Connor. However, like you said, Connor has other plans like the Mayweather fight??? or move to a different weight class. So I doubt if he will get the rematch soon after he wins against Max.

[bbc.reporter]

Aldo has declared that he was willing to move up in lightweight just to fight versus Conor. I speculate Aldo will keep hunting for a rematch with the Irishman after winning versus Max Holloway. The humiliation is too much for him. He feels Conor's win was not deserved.

[Malsetid]

Aldo has declared that he was willing to move up in lightweight just to fight versus Conor. I speculate Aldo will keep hunting for a rematch with the Irishman after winning versus Max Holloway. The humiliation is too much for him. He feels Conor's win was not deserved.

Well in a way i think connir got into aldo's head the last time that's aldo got cocky and careless. But i'd love to see a rematch. I believe aldo deserves a rematch of all people consifering his contributions to the ufc. Though i'm nit sure if the result would br different as mcgregor actually keeps getting better after their last fight. But that is onr rematch i'd pay to see

[bbc.reporter]

@Malsetid. I agree. I do not think he was at his best when he fought Conor. Aldo would not be so careless by throwing wild punches with his head leaned forward and his chin exposed.

[Marma Kalari]

@Malsetid. I agree. I do not think he was at his best when he fought Conor. Aldo would not be so careless by throwing wild punches with his head leaned forward and his chin exposed.

Conor made him do that and trapped him up,he knew with the mind games he played he will come after him swinging and he waited for the perfect shot and knocked him out cold,i have never seen anyone humiliating Aldo in his career before the match and no one talked trash to Aldo and the mind games worked perfectly,i do think Conor is a genius to upset the oppositions rhythm.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Aldo says he will pursue the knockout against Holloway.
Most of Aldo's success has come against fighters shorter than him, with less reach.
The title defenses Aldo had the most trouble with were against fighters near to his size: Conor McGregor & Korean Zombie.
I'm looking forward to seeing Aldo fight Holloway.   

Jose Aldo is 5.7 and for a 145 pound champion he wont be getting a 6 feet challengers as they wont be able to get to that weight and Kenny Florian is 5.10 and he had the reach advantage and still Aldo won the match as he kicked the hell out of his legs and that is how he is going to fighter taller guys and even with Korean Zombie he was not at all in any trouble and he popped his shoulders in the match and Aldo finished that fight soon after.

[tokeweed]

Lol.  Jose Aldo isn't knocking out anyone now that the UFC is so strict with PED use.  And he's not knocking out Max Holloway for sure maybe even under PED.  Holloway is quicker and has the athleticism and techique to make this a close fight.  Too bad he has pillows for fists.  So there's no threat for Aldo getting KO'd too.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Lol.  Jose Aldo isn't knocking out anyone now that the UFC is so strict with PED use.  And he's not knocking out Max Holloway for sure maybe even under PED.  Holloway is quicker and has the athleticism and techique to make this a close fight.  Too bad he has pillows for fists.  So there's no threat for Aldo getting KO'd too.

So you think that Aldo was taking PED's ,i would say that it is just not true,because he has not dropped his performance even after USADA,look at the performance of Vitor Belfort,Erick Silva,Johny Hendricks,Pettis and many more after the USADA test and look at their difference in how they look now but i do not see much of a difference with Aldo.

[tokeweed]

Lol.  Jose Aldo isn't knocking out anyone now that the UFC is so strict with PED use.  And he's not knocking out Max Holloway for sure maybe even under PED.  Holloway is quicker and has the athleticism and techique to make this a close fight.  Too bad he has pillows for fists.  So there's no threat for Aldo getting KO'd too.

So you think that Aldo was taking PED's ,i would say that it is just not true,because he has not dropped his performance even after USADA,look at the performance of Vitor Belfort,Erick Silva,Johny Hendricks,Pettis and many more after the USADA test and look at their difference in how they look now but i do not see much of a difference with Aldo.

What?  The Brazilians are known to use the 'Brazilian Juice' during training.  Don't be naive to believe Aldo didn't use performance enhancers, in one form or another during all his training before the USADA begun to become really strict with the tests.

Some of them even resort to vitamins with added ingredients that increase your testosterone levels.  Those have been known to be used by the Brazilians and have been flagged by USADA as illegal.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

@ tokeweed i am also against fighters who are fighting with the help of synthetic drugs and it should be removed from the sport and especially in combat sport like MMA ,it is really dangerous and it is an added advantage and now when it comes to Aldo he is never flagged for taking illegal substance and you really cannot predict that everyone from a group are taking juice,i am not seeing any difference in his physic before and after the testing started and it is not easy to escape the testing process as they are conducting Olympic style random tests and even if you take tainted food or medicine you will get flagged,so hope you understand the level of strictness.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Lol.  Jose Aldo isn't knocking out anyone now that the UFC is so strict with PED use.  And he's not knocking out Max Holloway for sure maybe even under PED.  Holloway is quicker and has the athleticism and techique to make this a close fight.  Too bad he has pillows for fists.  So there's no threat for Aldo getting KO'd too.

So you think that Aldo was taking PED's ,i would say that it is just not true,because he has not dropped his performance even after USADA,look at the performance of Vitor Belfort,Erick Silva,Johny Hendricks,Pettis and many more after the USADA test and look at their difference in how they look now but i do not see much of a difference with Aldo.

What?  The Brazilians are known to use the 'Brazilian Juice' during training.  Don't be naive to believe Aldo didn't use performance enhancers, in one form or another during all his training before the USADA begun to become really strict with the tests.
Some of them even resort to vitamins with added ingredients that increase your testosterone levels.  Those have been known to be used by the Brazilians and have been flagged by USADA as illegal.

If that is the case then you have to say that everyone was on juice before the USADA testing and you can see the difference between performance from some fighters and i have mentioned earlier about it and i have not seen any performance difference from Aldo and with the recent testing it is really difficult to get away with PED use as they will be testing them randomly,it is a known fact that testosterone replacement therapy is used by many fighters but Aldo was not in that list who took that treatment.

[tokeweed]

Watch the press conference.  Some interesting development is occuring for UFC 212.  After the pull out of Gastelum, Anderson Silva has explicitly expressed his desire to fight only someone who is coming off from a win in his division.  Belfort and Rockhold is out of the question.  Mousasi just fought Weidman, so he's out too.

There's only one name left.  Yoel Romero!  YES PLEASE!

UFC 212 Press Conference
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8jRVJFgINfU

[Yuhee]

I think this will be a close fight between Aldo vs Holloway,in terms of stats Aldo got the advantage on this match. In my opinion this fight will end in a decision, I'm craving for Aldo vs Mcgregor in years but the match will never be happened even how Aldo strive. By the way I'm waiting also for the last slot who will be the opponent of Anderson Silva, @tokeweed hopefully you're right.

[Kemarit]

I think this will be a close fight between Aldo vs Holloway,in terms of stats Aldo got the advantage on this match. In my opinion this fight will end in a decision, I'm craving for Aldo vs Mcgregor in years but the match will never be happened even how Aldo strive. By the way I'm waiting also for the last slot who will be the opponent of Anderson Silva, @tokeweed hopefully you're right.

Yes, in paper it looks like Aldo has the advantage. But Holloway is a live underdog. We all love for Aldo to win because we want him a rematch with the Connor, but this is not an easy fight for him.

@tokeweed

What a match if Silva with face Yoel. Yoel is a monster, I don't think Silva can win if they face each other. I just hope for Anderson to retire. He has already cemented his legacy. No need to get that body bang again with the likes of Yoel Romero.

[bbc.reporter]

@Kemarit. That speculation might now be over. There is news that Anderson Silva has pulled out of UFC 212. I also said that he has not left in good terms and it mentioned that the UFC organization has disrespected him and his legacy in the sport.

Will we see him go to Bellator?