[ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org

[Hibryda]

could the toroid based network protocol be a good infrastructure for replicating information on a network in general, like for example, as an alternative or a competitor to TCP/IP, BitTorrent, or IPFS?

Certainly not all network layers (because you mixed several network layers protocols in your question). In general there are attempts in the wild to use similar approach to replace p2p class protocols. BL protocol is designed to serve BL and give throughput benefits by leveraging machine learning prediction abilities, GPU boost when available (to be close to real time in reaction to changes of net topology) and alike. Thus, it's not meant to be general use protocol, however if it proves reliable and performant (and we design it with simplicity in mind) then with minor changes can be applied elsewhere.

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[BitcoinLady]

    
 Cryptocoins depend on many concepts that should be understood before going deeper. Unfortunately, to understand it properly there is no shortcut. As to Bitlattice - a catch is that it's not a blockchain. There are common points, but mostly approach differs. So, base knowledge about computing issues can help a lot.

Our free guide 'knowledge matters' is already available on http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/list

 

[andreibi]

No test network yet?

[Hibryda]

No test network yet?

No. And because it's written from scratch, with no general scheme that could be borrowed from other sources, it takes time. Surely more than 2 months that elapsed since you last asked me about the same. While we wrote prototype skeleton clients already it's still long way to have them publishable. But we are on schedule still.
I'll notify you when testnet is ready to play and hack, I'm glad that you are looking for it.

[andreibi]

No test network yet?

No. And because it's written from scratch, with no general scheme that could be borrowed from other sources, it takes time. Surely more than 2 months that elapsed since you last asked me about the same. While we wrote prototype skeleton clients already it's still long way to have them publishable. But we are on schedule still.
I'll notify you when testnet is ready to play and hack, I'm glad that you are looking for it.

Yes, I'm very interested in lattice or tangle type of crypto. That's why I'm heavily into IOTA, Byteball and Raiblocks. I wonder what differentiates BitLattice from the ones I mentioned since you said you're starting from scratch.

[Hibryda]

No test network yet?

No. And because it's written from scratch, with no general scheme that could be borrowed from other sources, it takes time. Surely more than 2 months that elapsed since you last asked me about the same. While we wrote prototype skeleton clients already it's still long way to have them publishable. But we are on schedule still.
I'll notify you when testnet is ready to play and hack, I'm glad that you are looking for it.

Yes, I'm very interested in lattice or tangle type of crypto. That's why I'm heavily into IOTA, Byteball and Raiblocks. I wonder what differentiates BitLattice from the ones I mentioned since you said you're starting from scratch.

First - it's not a blockchain. Second - it has a metric structure. Most of differences I already mentioned above. Please be more specific.

[informo]

Yes, I'm very interested in lattice or tangle type of crypto. That's why I'm heavily into IOTA, Byteball and Raiblocks. I wonder what differentiates BitLattice from the ones I mentioned since you said you're starting from scratch.

I am still learning about BitLattice. From how I understand it so far, BitLattice has refined some of the ideas behind Tangle and Byteball, and done so to the point that it is almost not comparable. Just like in Tangle and Byteball, transactions are appended to previous transactions, but besides that, BitLattice also organises transactions into a fixed topology (the hyper-lattice) which in itself makes it possible to build functions on top of it. The lattice is a spatial field, which means that certain types of mathematics that apply to spatial fields can be performed on top of the lattice. The possibility for lattice-based mathematics, including lattice-based cryptography, and also wave functions throughout the lattice as a spatial field for proof-of-structure, and similar things, are what is made possible with a lattice, and so yes, BitLattice appends transactions in ways that are slightly similar to Tangle and ByteBall, but it does so in ways that make all sorts of new math possible.

[usukan]

Greetings Hibryda

I'm glad to see this project is still progressing - and in a nice careful way.

IMO there really is no rush to get just "something" out there on testnet.

Best work carefully and slowly through all of this so all aspects are considered as carefully as possible and the best solutions are implemented in testnet and beyond.  I can see this is absolutely groundbreaking work with little to compare or copy from.  I really can appreciate the complexities and I don't envy your job (albeit I can see the excitement of bringing this to life).

I continue to watch this project carefully and wish you all the best in your endeavors.

I look forward to having a good play around in the Bitlattice platform.


Cheers - usukan

[freo]

Any updates on the progress of this project?  Is there an ICO in sight?

[BitcoinLady]

As to updates -
https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896166039456591872
https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896168702235869184

As to ICO - it's possible that at the end of this year we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype.

[freo]

Ok, thanks i will look forward to the whitepaper and pre-ICO later in the year.

[btcdee]

Ok, thanks i will look forward to the whitepaper and pre-ICO later in the year.

Same here. Following this project with great interest.

[andreibi]

No new development? So sad. DAG chains are the future I believe.

[wtfc360]

Don't be sad, be happy, cause we're on schedule. Development is in progress. And testing. And coding.
We plan to release Bitlattice at the end of this year or early next year.
Absence of information here doesn't mean nothing is being developed, only that all focus is on development.
Be patient. We won't rush.

[informo]

No new development? So sad. DAG chains are the future I believe.

BitLattice is a post-blockchain system, so its not a chain. The chain structure is limited, blockchains for example have to let a single node add hundreds of transactions at a time, into a block, to prevent collisions that would occur if all nodes appended transactions simultaneously, and so proof-of-work or proof-of-stake is used to introduce a bottleneck. In BitLattice, because the lattice has not just one position for new transactions (the next element in a chain) but thousands or millions in a vast multidimensional lattice, how I've understood it is that nodes can work in parallel, and then synchronise with one another while adding new transactions in parallel, all at once, through a toroidal network where replication of transactions is very very fast.

So since BitLattice is not a chain, the probability of collisions when appending transactions are very small (whereas in a chain the probability is near 100%) and so almost insignificant.

(this is my interpretation of why BitLattice is not a chain, and what the benefits of that are, it may not be accurate)

[andreibi]

Interesting. Raiblocks has blocklattice which is DAG in a way I guess. Then there is Xtrabytes with something, which I suppose is similar to Toroidal Network Topology. But Xtrabytes has to prove itself first.
This seems to take it a step further.

I have spoken to one of the avid fans of Raiblocks, they say Raiblocks isn't DAG but looking at the whitepaper, it certainly looks like DAG. I'm a bit confused with why they say that.

[wtfc360]

So, no update for some time, just wanted to let you know that Hibryda has now implemented fully homomorphic encrypted entities into bitlattice.
Hibryda is still coding and developing.

[btcdee]

So, no update for some time, just wanted to let you know that Hibryda has now implemented fully homomorphic encrypted entities into bitlattice.
Hibryda is still coding and developing.

Thanks for the update. Does this mean that Bitlattice will implement zero knowledge proof (or similar) transactions?

[Hibryda]

The answer is both yes and hmm - alike, as the scheme is a little weird because it requires upfront size estimation to ensure providing an answer without breaking a sequence of encryption and thus it does not fit in exact definitions.

[btcdee]

The answer is both yes and hmm - alike, as the scheme is a little weird because it requires upfront size estimation to ensure providing an answer without breaking a sequence of encryption and thus it does not fit in exact definitions.

Thanks for your answer 
Your concept of a post-blockchain multidimensional 'neural-like' network is beyond just intriguing. I will eagerly await more updates and details from you.