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February 19, 2017, 06:41:43 AM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


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February 19, 2017, 07:47:35 AM
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Yes, actually I use my bitcoins earning to put more funds on my business.
Its a convenient store actually, I don't have enough bitcoins right now,
but I'm planning to put more funds on my struggling agricultural farm.
I needed at least 4-5 btc on my farm. Although my brother is taking
care of it as of the moment, because I somewhat lease my farm to
him, I still want to manage it myself. Maybe If I can save enough
then I will put it all in there. But so far, only my convenient store is
being funded or added funds coming from by bitcoin earnings.


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February 19, 2017, 10:35:25 AM
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if you wan offline business is much idea
you want big business or low business, still bitcoin business or outside bitcoin business
if low business and outside bitcoin business , you can try internet rent, photocopy if you location near campus, top up in smartphone, internet quota , restaurant and more

if you have much bitcoin you can open big business 

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February 19, 2017, 02:29:13 PM
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Yes, actually I use my bitcoins earning to put more funds on my business.
Its a convenient store actually, I don't have enough bitcoins right now,
but I'm planning to put more funds on my struggling agricultural farm.
I needed at least 4-5 btc on my farm. Although my brother is taking
care of it as of the moment, because I somewhat lease my farm to
him, I still want to manage it myself. Maybe If I can save enough
then I will put it all in there. But so far, only my convenient store is
being funded or added funds coming from by bitcoin earnings.


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Cool, Have you ever thought to get crowd funding from bitcoin community to run and grow your business. Many bitcoiners are brave enough to invest even in PONZI scheme. I think bitcoiners will rush to stable and profitable  offline business to invest.

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February 19, 2017, 02:51:35 PM
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of course i will, i want to help tourism industry by build a hotel or resort so tourist can stay at my hotel for holiday. i will add bitcoin ATM machine in my hotel so customer can using bitcoin to make payment. i will also make invest for  agricultural to help farmer to make new innovation and help them to increase their revenue.

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February 19, 2017, 03:39:12 PM
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I would invest my bitcoins in an offline or real world kind of business. The only problem I see is that bitcoin is still not well known and that when investing it in the real world no one will accept it yet. So probably if you intend to do this, you have to convert your bitcoins to fiat first so that you can buy what you need for the investment.

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February 19, 2017, 03:43:43 PM
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Yes, actually I use my bitcoins earning to put more funds on my business.
Its a convenient store actually, I don't have enough bitcoins right now,
but I'm planning to put more funds on my struggling agricultural farm.
I needed at least 4-5 btc on my farm. Although my brother is taking
care of it as of the moment, because I somewhat lease my farm to
him, I still want to manage it myself. Maybe If I can save enough
then I will put it all in there. But so far, only my convenient store is
being funded or added funds coming from by bitcoin earnings.

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Cool, Have you ever thought to get crowd funding from bitcoin community to run and grow your business. Many bitcoiners are brave enough to invest even in PONZI scheme. I think bitcoiners will rush to stable and profitable  offline business to invest.

Nah. I'm just happy for now that I can get a continuous cash flow coming from
my bitcoins and going to my offline business. And my off-line business is already
taking much of my time. I think if I'm going crowd funding from our community
I can't focus on my other priorities in life. So right now I'm just satisfied on how
my offline business is doing. But again, as I have said, if I'm able to save enough
from my off-line business and bitcoin earnings, I will go and put everything in my
agricultural farm. It was very profitable actually (farm), until I lost my job a few
years ago that's why I was forced to let my brother took over from me for the
meantime.

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February 19, 2017, 07:38:30 PM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



How would invest bitcoin directly if most of the people don't accept them ? Not really feasable unless its your own business. Bitcoin is used to invest in online opportunities and not offline because it can be converted to fiat if you want to invest offline. People don't buy or save bitcoins to invest offline. By now it is clear the government and banks won't let it be successful as an actual currency in the real world.



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February 20, 2017, 07:47:33 AM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



How would invest bitcoin directly if most of the people don't accept them ? Not really feasable unless its your own business. Bitcoin is used to invest in online opportunities and not offline because it can be converted to fiat if you want to invest offline. People don't buy or save bitcoins to invest offline. By now it is clear the government and banks won't let it be successful as an actual currency in the real world.
Indeed governent will surely not allow this for bitcoin to being used on offline business because they cant impose taxes on it which means they dont have tax returns and government doesnt really like that situation. If you are a investor of such business better consider the reputation of bitcoin onto your place.

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February 20, 2017, 08:09:23 AM
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First of all, I would like to say that theres a lot of funny posts in this thread. A lot of you dont have a clue of what you are saying as long as you can maintain your post output.

As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



If you invest BTC in the industries you mentioned then you have to sell your coins for the currency of your country right? So you are actually investing in your currency's country and not in BTC.

If you want to do this for the reason of making BTC more popular then you are on another road of losing them. If you are a real businessman, you invest in something because you have studied it well and have projections that it will be profitable. Not because you want something to become popular.

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Right now bitcoin option are very less because many people are not still accepting bitcoin to any purchase any item for business. At the moment it is bad idea to setup a offline business with bitcoin, many people will not show any interest towards our business because in our local many people still don't know what is bitcoin and how we are going to benefit from it.

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February 20, 2017, 11:03:52 AM
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Right now bitcoin option are very less because many people are not still accepting bitcoin to any purchase any item for business. At the moment it is bad idea to setup a offline business with bitcoin, many people will not show any interest towards our business because in our local many people still don't know what is bitcoin and how we are going to benefit from it.

That is true, I live in similar community where many people still don't recognize Bitcoin.
But there is other solution, Bitcoin could be used as an investment to support some business that doesn't necessary accept bi as payment. Or maybe business owner could find Bitcoin loan to finance the business easier then fiat loan in banks.

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February 20, 2017, 11:36:23 AM
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it's very risky to invest bitcoin in those business you are telling, because they belong to the real life world controlled by the governemnt with their rules, and they don't see bitcoin very well, you also need some documents/legal trouble and stuff like that to setup before doing it, not worth the effort, what about mining? mining and crypto go very well together and can earn you money without doing nothing, it's preferable for me
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Hmm, indeed offline have a growth rate much higher than online. But according to my analysis, in the future all people will start to leave offline and switch to online. Because I'm sure in the future advances in technology will greatly facilitate all activities we do. So, the online business is a very suitable base for bitcoin. Because an online business are looking for a tool that is very flexible and very profitable. You don't have to worry if the Government in your country prohibit bitcoin then it is not an issue, because it can still access if you still get the flow of the internet

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it's very risky to invest bitcoin in those business you are telling, because they belong to the real life world controlled by the governemnt with their rules, and they don't see bitcoin very well, you also need some documents/legal trouble and stuff like that to setup before doing it, not worth the effort, what about mining? mining and crypto go very well together and can earn you money without doing nothing, it's preferable for me

Do you really believe what you are saying? Do you think any bitcoin made business is worth more than amazon, apple, microsoft, etc. I think even if we compile all the bitcoin-based investments and business it won't even be up to par with any company in the top 500 businesses in just in the USA. It may be hard due to government control, but for sure right now any bitcoin-based business will not beat real life businesses.

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I would love to invest my bitcoins into such real investments by converting it to fiat first. And that would be what everyone preferred business which is real estate. Through this type of business I can have decent income even without effort too much. Also while sleeping money or profit can come back to me easily and that's why everyone's preferred this.



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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



It could be very useful as loan for micro businessman trying to start their businesses. I already saw something here on forumabout a pig farm, but it wasn't succesful because the animal breeder scammed everyone. Anyway, I like the idea, very helpful for who needs initial investment and don't want to pay high fees for government or banks, all we need is that both parts of the negociation agree with the terms.

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I want to help tourism too here in my country and if I will be given a chance to invest into such investments then I like to go with agricultural. Since my parents came from rural place they know how to take care of agricultural lands and on how to cultivate it. And if that happens, we will make it as source of plantation and tourism.

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it is good idea. I actually invest my bitcoin in an offline business. but it is a personal business, and I still develop it. but I think I want to develop it myself first then if it is possible I would invite bitcoin investors to join like you said.


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of course i will, i want to help tourism industry by build a hotel or resort so tourist can stay at my hotel for holiday. i will add bitcoin ATM machine in my hotel so customer can using bitcoin to make payment. i will also make invest for  agricultural to help farmer to make new innovation and help them to increase their revenue.

Bitcoin a virtual tool and does not have a clear legal entities, so I think it will be very difficult for the businessman using bitcoin in offline, because they don't want to get something that gives a problem that could make them lose. Indeed in fact better offline than online, but much more profitable in the bitcoin online. Because with bitcoin we can buy all the things that exist outside of the country without having to exchange money in advance or bitcoin can be a tool of Exchange without a fee and also without fear of price reduction
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Hmm, indeed offline have a growth rate much higher than online. But according to my analysis, in the future all people will start to leave offline and switch to online. Because I'm sure in the future advances in technology will greatly facilitate all activities we do. So, the online business is a very suitable base for bitcoin. Because an online business are looking for a tool that is very flexible and very profitable. You don't have to worry if the Government in your country prohibit bitcoin then it is not an issue, because it can still access if you still get the flow of the internet

Really? Can you give us more info on your analysis? Im sure it would be eye opening to us here in the forum. Whether that eye opener is positive or negative will however depend.

If you think businesses on the internet are very suitable for BTC, why arent that many online shops using it? Im not talking about small online shops, Im talking about big businesses like Amazon. Please give us your analysis on that.

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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


It could be possible but to be honest bitcoin needs to first reach a great level of adoption to be able to take advantage of business opportunities off line since there are lots of opportunities online we cannot take advantage for the lack of adoption.

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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



It is a good idea. But it just fit with some people used to know and use bitcoin.
And for those who do not know, it's hard to explain and convince them to accept Bitcoin currency
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Well I know some people that are using bitcoin for their business in real life,
I mean they use bitcoin as a capital for their store's .

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You can't use bitcoin in an offline business. You have to convert it into fiat. Once you convert it's no longer bitcoin, it's fiat. In this discussion bitcoin is not involved. The correct question has to be like this: Do you have an idea to invest your online earnings in offline business? My answer would be yes if I have enough capital and see a profit potential.
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If i have the money i will surely invest it to creating my own mining farm to mine my own bitcoins.
I'll start from buying some few equipments like mining rigs just for starters cause i know when starting a business has some trial and errors
So i must have some understanding first to what kind of business im doing then if i manage to pull through and start earning some good amount of money. I'll try expanding it.

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Instead of making an ordinary offline business, i'd much rather prefer having stake in BTM's or Vending Machines accepting Bitcoin as a payment method.

Now there are insane types of startups that enable Bitcoin to be expanded into a physical environment, it'll be a longer wait to see its entire potential.

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You can't use bitcoin in an offline business. You have to convert it into fiat. Once you convert it's no longer bitcoin, it's fiat. In this discussion bitcoin is not involved. The correct question has to be like this: Do you have an idea to invest your online earnings in offline business? My answer would be yes if I have enough capital and see a profit potential.
Good answer, I like it. There is literally no way to invest your bitcoin in "offline" business without exchanging BTC to FIAT first.

Someone in this thread also asked about bitcoin crowdfunding to fuel your real life projects - don't do it with Bitcoin, you will fail.
The reason ICO crowdfunding is so popular is that  backers expect revenue from early stage cryptocurrency projects, and you can't give them that with your 'offline' business.

                                                                       
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If government's accept Bitcoin as a payment method than i am ready to setup milk dairy farm. Where i can accept payments in bitcoin because today there is huge demand for genuine milk. Really this business will give lot profits, but you need to do lot of hard work so that people should believe me.

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Well I know some people that are using bitcoin for their business in real life,
I mean they use bitcoin as a capital for their store's .

Yeah and they have to convert their BTC to fiat, dont they? Technically that makes their BTC investment in real life actually a fiat investment.

This is the second time I heard someone mention they use BTC as capital for their stores. What country do they do it from and what kind of stores are they? I also want to know why theres a need for BTC to start their stores. Why not use fiat directly instead of buying BTC then converting back to fiat again. What role is BTC playing?

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Convert bitcoin into fiat money. That's my idea. However your convertion is to fund offline business. Or get croudfunding from bitcoin commnunity to do offline business. By converting into fiat money, offline business which is stable can attract investment instead of deposit into HYIP.

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Convert bitcoin into fiat money. That's my idea. However your convertion is to fund offline business. Or get croudfunding from bitcoin commnunity to do offline business. By converting into fiat money, offline business which is stable can attract investment instead of deposit into HYIP.
Ill make the same move too on which those bitcoin would be converted to fiat to invest it on offline business since bitcoin isnt popular in my place and its nonsense on building or accepting bitcoin if the people live on your place doesnt even recognize it.

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Convert bitcoin into fiat money. That's my idea. However your convertion is to fund offline business. Or get croudfunding from bitcoin commnunity to do offline business. By converting into fiat money, offline business which is stable can attract investment instead of deposit into HYIP.
Ill make the same move too on which those bitcoin would be converted to fiat to invest it on offline business since bitcoin isnt popular in my place and its nonsense on building or accepting bitcoin if the people live on your place doesnt even recognize it.

This is the only recourse anyone can do if you plan to invest your bitcoins in offline businesses, unless whatever you need to buy for the business accepts bitcoins then you can proceed using bitcoins. But generally, it's impossible to invest your bitcoins directly to offline businesses.

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Convert bitcoin into fiat money. That's my idea. However your convertion is to fund offline business. Or get croudfunding from bitcoin commnunity to do offline business. By converting into fiat money, offline business which is stable can attract investment instead of deposit into HYIP.
Ill make the same move too on which those bitcoin would be converted to fiat to invest it on offline business since bitcoin isnt popular in my place and its nonsense on building or accepting bitcoin if the people live on your place doesnt even recognize it.

This is the only recourse anyone can do if you plan to invest your bitcoins in offline businesses, unless whatever you need to buy for the business accepts bitcoins then you can proceed using bitcoins. But generally, it's impossible to invest your bitcoins directly to offline businesses.

Ok so technically we are all in the same idea here that fiat is used to invest in an offline business. I have read some people posted that they use BTC to fund their stores. What is that all about? They buy BTC then convert it back to fiat to fund their stores? Where did they get the BTC in the first place if not to buy them from an exchange? Why didnt they use fiat directly?

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Well I know some people that are using bitcoin for their business in real life,
I mean they use bitcoin as a capital for their store's .

Yeah and they have to convert their BTC to fiat, dont they? Technically that makes their BTC investment in real life actually a fiat investment.

This is the second time I heard someone mention they use BTC as capital for their stores. What country do they do it from and what kind of stores are they? I also want to know why theres a need for BTC to start their stores. Why not use fiat directly instead of buying BTC then converting back to fiat again. What role is BTC playing?
The benefit for using Bitcoin instead of Fiat is to have your own bank. With Bitcoin you don't need to rely on any bank in case of high income which need any bank to secure.

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February 24, 2017, 06:07:00 AM
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Well I know some people that are using bitcoin for their business in real life,
I mean they use bitcoin as a capital for their store's .

Yeah and they have to convert their BTC to fiat, dont they? Technically that makes their BTC investment in real life actually a fiat investment.

This is the second time I heard someone mention they use BTC as capital for their stores. What country do they do it from and what kind of stores are they? I also want to know why theres a need for BTC to start their stores. Why not use fiat directly instead of buying BTC then converting back to fiat again. What role is BTC playing?
The benefit for using Bitcoin instead of Fiat is to have your own bank. With Bitcoin you don't need to rely on any bank in case of high income which need any bank to secure.

The idea is good but to set up a bank we need to make a lot of agreements with the government. Because still now government did not announce anything about bitcoin, so really it is the tough job to set up our own bank.

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February 24, 2017, 06:10:25 AM
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Convert bitcoin into fiat money. That's my idea. However your convertion is to fund offline business. Or get croudfunding from bitcoin commnunity to do offline business. By converting into fiat money, offline business which is stable can attract investment instead of deposit into HYIP.
Ill make the same move too on which those bitcoin would be converted to fiat to invest it on offline business since bitcoin isnt popular in my place and its nonsense on building or accepting bitcoin if the people live on your place doesnt even recognize it.

This is the only recourse anyone can do if you plan to invest your bitcoins in offline businesses, unless whatever you need to buy for the business accepts bitcoins then you can proceed using bitcoins. But generally, it's impossible to invest your bitcoins directly to offline businesses.

Ok so technically we are all in the same idea here that fiat is used to invest in an offline business. I have read some people posted that they use BTC to fund their stores. What is that all about? They buy BTC then convert it back to fiat to fund their stores? Where did they get the BTC in the first place if not to buy them from an exchange? Why didnt they use fiat directly?
Then maybe they are longing for the possible profits that bitcoin would give them because price does increase and they have the will to convert their btc to fiat anytime and thats the advantage. When they would directly fund using fiat it would be fixed unlike on buying bitcoin and might hold little bit more value would really be different.

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February 24, 2017, 07:35:59 AM
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Well I know some people that are using bitcoin for their business in real life,
I mean they use bitcoin as a capital for their store's .

Yeah and they have to convert their BTC to fiat, dont they? Technically that makes their BTC investment in real life actually a fiat investment.

This is the second time I heard someone mention they use BTC as capital for their stores. What country do they do it from and what kind of stores are they? I also want to know why theres a need for BTC to start their stores. Why not use fiat directly instead of buying BTC then converting back to fiat again. What role is BTC playing?
The benefit for using Bitcoin instead of Fiat is to have your own bank. With Bitcoin you don't need to rely on any bank in case of high income which need any bank to secure.

I know the benefits. What Im trying to ask is why is there a need to convert fiat to BTC then back to fiat to invest in their stores? Why was there a need to get BTC? Read the other posts in the thread to know what we have been arguing about.

One person here said he uses BTC for his convenience store. Why didnt he use fiat directly? Why did he have to buy BTC or where did he get the BTC?

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February 24, 2017, 09:41:40 AM
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Bitcoin is digital and digital only!

Seems hard to me to "invest" btc in anything that is... Real in a material way.
Most of the ways you'll see will need to first convert to fiat. BTC is still faaaaaaaaar behind in terms of importance and recognition...

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February 25, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
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I'd love to invest my bitcoin in an offline business but we all know that it is not accepted widely so If I'm going to fund an offline

business I will have to convert my bitcoin to cash and I won't do that because If I do I can no longer increase the $ amount of

bitcoins.  I said to myself that I will keep my bitcoins for a long term.

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February 25, 2017, 10:43:16 AM
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I want to invest to offline business but not with agricultural business but for real properties or land properties. For me, it's more valuable and easy to earn if you do have a lot of lands and you are in a commercial place. It's better to invest to that type of business, the income is very passive so if you do have invested into it, the results is very good.

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February 25, 2017, 10:55:34 AM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?
I am not bothering about online or offline business. But their credibility really matters. We are into this forum and based on this forum I determine one business's trustworthy. If people suggest one services for investments then I will be investing with them. I believe this easy finding of trust worthy people for offline business will not be possible for bitcoin payments.

Investing into offline business is not a big deal. Just buying a reputed company share will get you what you prefer. The only thing must be, they will not accept bitcoin payments.

Honestly, I am not looking for 'bitcoin only investments'.



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February 25, 2017, 11:25:23 AM
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a lot of choice in doing business in the real world. we can open up a business such as selling various computer devices. Current technological development is increasing, so that computer sales would be easy enough to be marketed in the community.


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February 25, 2017, 11:49:25 AM
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Yes as of now, I am planning to build a small grocery store and i think that this kind of plan will work because in our area there is no grocery store available and most of the people here go to malls just to buy their grocery and now i can take advantage of that and make some money by building a near grocery store so the lazy kind of person will buy at my store and not to the mall.

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February 25, 2017, 12:01:33 PM
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I'd love to invest my bitcoin in an offline business

But from where did you get your BTC to fund an offline business? By buying them with fiat, yes? If you want to invest in an offline business why go from fiat to BTC then back to fiat? There is no need for BTC. Just invest in an offline business straight with fiat.


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February 27, 2017, 05:12:14 AM
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I'd love to invest my bitcoin in an offline business

But from where did you get your BTC to fund an offline business? By buying them with fiat, yes? If you want to invest in an offline business why go from fiat to BTC then back to fiat? There is no need for BTC. Just invest in an offline business straight with fiat.



Yes, converting from fiat to bitcoin is cool idea and setting up them an offline business is a good deal. Day to Day bitcoin user are keep increasing so there will be huge customers for your business. Advertise your local business in different way by promoting as we are accepting bitcoin and fiat currency.

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I'd love to invest my bitcoin in an offline business

But from where did you get your BTC to fund an offline business? By buying them with fiat, yes? If you want to invest in an offline business why go from fiat to BTC then back to fiat? There is no need for BTC. Just invest in an offline business straight with fiat.



Yes, converting from fiat to bitcoin is cool idea and setting up them an offline business is a good deal. Day to Day bitcoin user are keep increasing so there will be huge customers for your business. Advertise your local business in different way by promoting as we are accepting bitcoin and fiat currency.

We are talking about why funding an offline business with Bitcoin is nonsensical. Please read the arguments and the discussions before you answer.

But since you brought up another point. I will say that you are wrong. It makes no sense to to set up an offline business that accepts BTC because no one would use it. They will use what works. Cash and credit cards. Try setting up your own offline BTC business and see how stupid you will look.

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February 27, 2017, 08:57:05 AM
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I'd love to invest my bitcoin in an offline business but we all know that it is not accepted widely so If I'm going to fund an offline

business I will have to convert my bitcoin to cash and I won't do that because If I do I can no longer increase the $ amount of

bitcoins.  I said to myself that I will keep my bitcoins for a long term.
Now the  bitcoin price is going up. That's a good idea too. Convert bitcoin to fiat money and invest in off line business just an idea. If you think keeping bitcoin is more profitable that's Ok.

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February 27, 2017, 02:01:46 PM
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I'd love to invest my bitcoin in an offline business but we all know that it is not accepted widely so If I'm going to fund an offline

business I will have to convert my bitcoin to cash and I won't do that because If I do I can no longer increase the $ amount of

bitcoins.  I said to myself that I will keep my bitcoins for a long term.
Now the  bitcoin price is going up. That's a good idea too. Convert bitcoin to fiat money and invest in off line business just an idea. If you think keeping bitcoin is more profitable that's Ok.
We do have our own decision regarding on how we gonna use our bitcoin some may sell some mey hold for even longer since they do believe on bitcoins potential in longer years.As of now using bitcoin directly to make offline business isnt possible since you will need to cash or exchange it first to fiat before you could able to do so.


 
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February 27, 2017, 02:51:29 PM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



I like to invest on an offline business but I don't want to focus with those 3 that you have mentioned. Since agricultural business is applicable in my place but I don't want to make myself dwell with it. There are more types of businesses that I can invest with my bitcoins when it comes to offline. I wanted to be into sales by using the fund I got for buying and selling.

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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



I like to invest on an offline business but I don't want to focus with those 3 that you have mentioned. Since agricultural business is applicable in my place but I don't want to make myself dwell with it. There are more types of businesses that I can invest with my bitcoins when it comes to offline. I wanted to be into sales by using the fund I got for buying and selling.

I have one question that all the posters here failed to answer. So this question goes to all of you who says you want to invest BTC in an offline business. Where do you get your Bitcoins that youre wanting to invest in an offline business?

Not from your signature campaigns I hope because that would be too funny.

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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



I like to invest on an offline business but I don't want to focus with those 3 that you have mentioned. Since agricultural business is applicable in my place but I don't want to make myself dwell with it. There are more types of businesses that I can invest with my bitcoins when it comes to offline. I wanted to be into sales by using the fund I got for buying and selling.

I have one question that all the posters here failed to answer. So this question goes to all of you who says you want to invest BTC in an offline business. Where do you get your Bitcoins that youre wanting to invest in an offline business?

Not from your signature campaigns I hope because that would be too funny.

Of course signature campaign is not my main source of income in earning bitcoins. Most of it, I'm getting from trading, joining ICO's and there are some of it that I invested from buying when the price of bitcoin is still quite low. Actually I'm a real investor and my main focus is with real properties though I'm not that big, I'm starting.

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in the future these things are very possible to do so but with only the exceptions that bitcoin users will increase more than now because more demands which mean more opportunity to get profit from business and i have a dream maybe someday will make a restaurant or offline stores which accept bitcoin as the payment method and i wish i would able to do that

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I'd love to invest my bitcoin in an offline business but we all know that it is not accepted widely so If I'm going to fund an offline

business I will have to convert my bitcoin to cash and I won't do that because If I do I can no longer increase the $ amount of

bitcoins.  I said to myself that I will keep my bitcoins for a long term.
Now the  bitcoin price is going up. That's a good idea too. Convert bitcoin to fiat money and invest in off line business just an idea. If you think keeping bitcoin is more profitable that's Ok.
We do have our own decision regarding on how we gonna use our bitcoin some may sell some mey hold for even longer since they do believe on bitcoins potential in longer years.As of now using bitcoin directly to make offline business isnt possible since you will need to cash or exchange it first to fiat before you could able to do so.

Exactly, at present resources are very less to accept bitcoin. Because right now only few people are using bitcoins and it very hard to get bitcoin payment because right bitcoin price is also very high. Yes to setup an offline business we have to exchange from bitcoin to fiat, because many people will accept only local currency.

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February 28, 2017, 11:19:50 AM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


For me, Online and Offline business is the same. So I will invest even if it is offline business. But I invest only if this is surely profitable. I'm not investing if this business is not surely profitable. I just play gambling instead investing in offline business.
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February 28, 2017, 12:57:09 PM
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I think investing bitcoin offline is not going to work well because at the first place bitcoin can be only send online and without the network you can not transact using bitcoin. Thats why you can not invest your bitcoin offline instead you need to go online for transactions.

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February 28, 2017, 03:21:50 PM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


For me, Online and Offline business is the same. So I will invest even if it is offline business. But I invest only if this is surely profitable. I'm not investing if this business is not surely profitable. I just play gambling instead investing in offline business.

There is no business that is surely profitable, If there is, then everyone should have don that because its risk free . There are many 

factors that should complement one another in order to have a successful business like location. your skills, what kind of business

etc. Gambling is also a no good. It is not a good way to earn money but a good way to lose it in one go. Investing in a legitimate

and reputable site is much better.

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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?



I like to invest on an offline business but I don't want to focus with those 3 that you have mentioned. Since agricultural business is applicable in my place but I don't want to make myself dwell with it. There are more types of businesses that I can invest with my bitcoins when it comes to offline. I wanted to be into sales by using the fund I got for buying and selling.

I have one question that all the posters here failed to answer. So this question goes to all of you who says you want to invest BTC in an offline business. Where do you get your Bitcoins that youre wanting to invest in an offline business?

Not from your signature campaigns I hope because that would be too funny.

Of course signature campaign is not my main source of income in earning bitcoins. Most of it, I'm getting from trading, joining ICO's and there are some of it that I invested from buying when the price of bitcoin is still quite low. Actually I'm a real investor and my main focus is with real properties though I'm not that big, I'm starting.

Sorry, I will only believe it when I see it. Its easy to say in a forum that you did invest when BTC was at a low price. If you really are rich from BTC trading and investing you will not bother joining a signature campaign and keep spamming the forum.

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March 01, 2017, 11:33:06 AM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


For me, Online and Offline business is the same. So I will invest even if it is offline business. But I invest only if this is surely profitable. I'm not investing if this business is not surely profitable. I just play gambling instead investing in offline business.
Play gambling rather than making offline business? Thats a unwise thing to do since gambling does really make us broke if we are lossing those money we do have but on an investment no matter how small it is,it does give the potential on making profits for long time. Investments either offline or online if you able to handle it well, it will surely grow and profitable.

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Ok, even if you invest in offline business, you will have to deal with online payments. I mean, it doesn't matter where you invest your BTC, as long as they are accepted.

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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


For me, Online and Offline business is the same. So I will invest even if it is offline business. But I invest only if this is surely profitable. I'm not investing if this business is not surely profitable. I just play gambling instead investing in offline business.
Play gambling rather than making offline business? Thats a unwise thing to do since gambling does really make us broke if we are lossing those money we do have but on an investment no matter how small it is,it does give the potential on making profits for long time. Investments either offline or online if you able to handle it well, it will surely grow and profitable.

I would also advice people who think gambling is an investment to wake up from your delusions! It practically stupid to rely on gambling as a means of earning from. There is little chance you will win there. Gambling makes an illusion that it is easy to win and make a lot of money from it but in truth, it is a honeypot and it's a trap!

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March 02, 2017, 08:01:35 PM
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I want to invest to offline business but not with agricultural business but for real properties or land properties. For me, it's more valuable and easy to earn if you do have a lot of lands and you are in a commercial place. It's better to invest to that type of business, the income is very passive so if you do have invested into it, the results is very good.

It also depends on where you use for business. Because sometimes there are some places that are less suitable for business and business is only suitable for agriculture. Indeed the House property and land business much more profitable, but it sometimes takes quite a long time to be trusted and be something big business if we don't have creative minds and innovation. Because everyone would surely prefer a property company which is creative and very good
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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.

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Although in my country is very rare, but I chose to develop personally. I have some investment in car rental services, clothing stores, and e-cigarette (vaping). I just simply introduce to friends in business community and explained that I serve bitcoin payments.

I get a great appreciation of this, many people who want to learn about bitcoin because they can easily make transactions. They even want to invest their bitcoin to open my business branches in various cities. This is very fun.

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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.

This is something achievable and possible because bitcoin is money and we can use to buy mostly everything even thought through third parties (not directly)

What comes in my mind is throght bitcoin debit cards or selling locally the bitcoins and then invest these money like regular cash in real life.

I believe that investing bitcoins offline is more complicated rather than online becaus eof the simplicity.

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March 03, 2017, 01:16:37 PM
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I want to invest to offline business but not with agricultural business but for real properties or land properties. For me, it's more valuable and easy to earn if you do have a lot of lands and you are in a commercial place. It's better to invest to that type of business, the income is very passive so if you do have invested into it, the results is very good.

It also depends on where you use for business. Because sometimes there are some places that are less suitable for business and business is only suitable for agriculture. Indeed the House property and land business much more profitable, but it sometimes takes quite a long time to be trusted and be something big business if we don't have creative minds and innovation. Because everyone would surely prefer a property company which is creative and very good


i think buying and selling properties will be good if we are innovative and creative on marketing our properties but i dont think bitcoins will excell in this kind of industry since professional real estate broker will prefer fiat nor check rather than btc who's unknown to their knowledge.

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Yes as of now, I am planning to build a small grocery store and i think that this kind of plan will work because in our area there is no grocery store available and most of the people here go to malls just to buy their grocery and now i can take advantage of that and make some money by building a near grocery store so the lazy kind of person will buy at my store and not to the mall.

your plans are very good and if you have a high or intentions have unyielding passion then at will will give you a great advantage and at the same time will bring you into the level of success. Because with it you can get a big advantage, because it is bitcoin is a currency with an uncertain prices. You can play as you wish as long as the price in the future you can get a larger locker using bitcoin. Congratulations fight and hopefully such a plan materialize well

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March 03, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
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Someone I know put alot of BTC into an offline business and at the end he had to fill a huge amount of papers and pay taxes. The issue is when you put your BTC into an offline business, the offline business is linked to your person. So, when inspectors come to you, you have to explain them where you bought that many things you have and they may not accept the reason "It is BTC and it is tax-free". In the end, anyone could say he bought his stuff with BTC that is why it is unregistered and tax-free.

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Bitcoin is cryptocurrency which means you can use it online and how are you going to use it for offline business? There aren't massive selling bitcoin coins in real life and people prefers paper money, you can't change world from paper to bitcoin coins and there is no need of that. When some people here says that bitcoin is tax free, than that means that poloniex, coince and other US based exchangers aren't paying fees? No, they are paying fees, it doesn't matter if it will be online or offline, you have source of income, so you have to pay fees.

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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.
This will always be the best offline business and you don't have to think about anything that can be related to agriculture or tourism. As long as you wil learn great by buying two houses or more then that will be the best thing. And what I'll do is that, I'll divide the house into many rooms that is still applicable and not too crowded, I'll make it room for rent.

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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.
This will always be the best offline business and you don't have to think about anything that can be related to agriculture or tourism. As long as you wil learn great by buying two houses or more then that will be the best thing. And what I'll do is that, I'll divide the house into many rooms that is still applicable and not too crowded, I'll make it room for rent.
I guess here people are discussing about just investing in any offline businesses not through bitcoin payments.
Because I'm not finding any feasibility of running offline business based on bitcoin payment system. It seems, we need to convert bitcoin and only with fiats we can build business and we can manage it.

If that is the approach then renting out/real estate/ lending kind of lot of offline business opportunities are available in almost every country. But I believe we must look for bitcoin based businesses because that only will boost bitcoin adoption which will help all the bitcoiners at another end.



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Bitcoin is cryptocurrency which means you can use it online and how are you going to use it for offline business? There aren't massive selling bitcoin coins in real life and people prefers paper money, you can't change world from paper to bitcoin coins and there is no need of that. When some people here says that bitcoin is tax free, than that means that poloniex, coince and other US based exchangers aren't paying fees? No, they are paying fees, it doesn't matter if it will be online or offline, you have source of income, so you have to pay fees.

You can use bitcoin on the same manner by just simply selling it and exchange it with fiat. We know that bitcoins usage in real life is limited.

But luckily there are exchanges where you can use bitcoin for supporting your plan of investing where you can get your capital from it.

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a lot of choice in doing business in the real world. we can open up a business such as selling various computer devices. Current technological development is increasing, so that computer sales would be easy enough to be marketed in the community.

The business is indeed something that gives an advantage to everyone, but if we don't get to addressing the business well. then everything will just give bad impact or will only make us get the losses (due to incorrectly set the business). Computer devices are indeed now much in search and being no. 2 after smartphone used by everyone. So it is indeed business computer device is one of the best idea, but we should still cling to economic law

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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.
This will always be the best offline business and you don't have to think about anything that can be related to agriculture or tourism. As long as you wil learn great by buying two houses or more then that will be the best thing. And what I'll do is that, I'll divide the house into many rooms that is still applicable and not too crowded, I'll make it room for rent.
I guess here people are discussing about just investing in any offline businesses not through bitcoin payments.
Because I'm not finding any feasibility of running offline business based on bitcoin payment system. It seems, we need to convert bitcoin and only with fiats we can build business and we can manage it.

If that is the approach then renting out/real estate/ lending kind of lot of offline business opportunities are available in almost every country. But I believe we must look for bitcoin based businesses because that only will boost bitcoin adoption which will help all the bitcoiners at another end.

It's not that bad if you will make an option to your business about bitcoin payments. It's your choice if you'll fully make your business as a total bitcoin accepting one instead why not try to make your business to be flexible. Since there are people that you are targeting whose not into bitcoins just make bitcoin payment as their choice. Just like those people that will be renting your houses, if they'll pay give them that choice.

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a lot of choice in doing business in the real world. we can open up a business such as selling various computer devices. Current technological development is increasing, so that computer sales would be easy enough to be marketed in the community.

i have an idea of building a crypto cafe were different users meet to use free Internet services to teach each other about crytpos and possibly an exchange to buy and sale bitcoins and altcoins and this would be restricted to the locals for security reasons.
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Yeah we I have a lot of ideas to have on offline businesses that will be use for bitcoin money, like investing in a restautant business, grocery stores, purified water refilling stations, bakery and many more to choose. You can use your money exchanged from btc to be profitable aside from online business and actually you can establish a legitimate electronics repair shop using the profit you have from passive incomes you have from those businesses you have in the future and that's one of it's example.

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Never.  What people here don't seem to get is that bitcoin itself is the investment.  All this other shit I wouldn't touch with a filthy 3rd world 20-foot pole.  Not with fiat, not with gold or silver, and certainly not with bitcoin.  All of those things--faucets, "investment opportunities"--are straight up scunty.  All garbage, and the real money is made by HODLing bitcoin, not by investing it in these scuntroidal scuntagonal scuntograms.  All garbage, every single one of them.

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March 08, 2017, 02:05:23 AM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


For me, Online and Offline business is the same. So I will invest even if it is offline business. But I invest only if this is surely profitable. I'm not investing if this business is not surely profitable. I just play gambling instead investing in offline business.
Play gambling rather than making offline business? Thats a unwise thing to do since gambling does really make us broke if we are lossing those money we do have but on an investment no matter how small it is,it does give the potential on making profits for long time. Investments either offline or online if you able to handle it well, it will surely grow and profitable.

I would also advice people who think gambling is an investment to wake up from your delusions! It practically stupid to rely on gambling as a means of earning from. There is little chance you will win there. Gambling makes an illusion that it is easy to win and make a lot of money from it but in truth, it is a honeypot and it's a trap!

But for the people who are addicted to it, they cannot control while playing gambling. Gambling seems to be very easy money, but it is very hard to predict that chance of winning from it. It is a very good idea to set up an offline business instead of playing gambling.

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March 08, 2017, 06:49:27 AM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


For me, Online and Offline business is the same. So I will invest even if it is offline business. But I invest only if this is surely profitable. I'm not investing if this business is not surely profitable. I just play gambling instead investing in offline business.
Play gambling rather than making offline business? Thats a unwise thing to do since gambling does really make us broke if we are lossing those money we do have but on an investment no matter how small it is,it does give the potential on making profits for long time. Investments either offline or online if you able to handle it well, it will surely grow and profitable.

True, gambling is really a hard habit to break and that would really need a solid conviction to quitting to really get rid of it. Investments however are not a sure thing and you will know this if you have been investing. No risk, no return. The higher the risks the higher the return and potentially the losses. Without exposing ourselves to risks then there is no point and no profit.
I would also advice people who think gambling is an investment to wake up from your delusions! It practically stupid to rely on gambling as a means of earning from. There is little chance you will win there. Gambling makes an illusion that it is easy to win and make a lot of money from it but in truth, it is a honeypot and it's a trap!

But for the people who are addicted to it, they cannot control while playing gambling. Gambling seems to be very easy money, but it is very hard to predict that chance of winning from it. It is a very good idea to set up an offline business instead of playing gambling.

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March 08, 2017, 09:48:58 AM
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I would invest in a real business. I might open a business selling mobile phone credit, vouchers game, PPOB (payment point online bank), and selling flight/bus/train tickets. And accept bitcoin as a payment .
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March 08, 2017, 09:02:55 PM
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It is possible to start a business if you replace  BTC for the local currency as start-up capital

You can grow organic agriculture and as a method of payment put BTC also, if your government permits that.

I am interested in growing mushrooms it is not difficult to conquer technology and learn all about it, but my government will not let me to offer payment in BTC as an option of payment, which is a shame, because that would only improve business.

I read on a forum that a German tourist tipped the Indian waiter 100 k DOGE so he wanted to know why people trade with these when there is very little value

The more people accept some things that are more trade can take place and prosper

I heard that in the Netherlands there are already a variety of services and options for payment with BTC

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I would invest in a real business. I might open a business selling mobile phone credit, vouchers game, PPOB (payment point online bank), and selling flight/bus/train tickets. And accept bitcoin as a payment .

It seems that many wants to invest in real business and with the way you want to invest it seems that's a unique one. If you'll start your business here in my country you've got a lot of competition already but still it's a matter of location where your business is established. I want to have this type of business together with some car rental services and agricultural ones.



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March 10, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
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I would invest in a real business. I might open a business selling mobile phone credit, vouchers game, PPOB (payment point online bank), and selling flight/bus/train tickets. And accept bitcoin as a payment .

It seems that many wants to invest in real business and with the way you want to invest it seems that's a unique one. If you'll start your business here in my country you've got a lot of competition already but still it's a matter of location where your business is established. I want to have this type of business together with some car rental services and agricultural ones.
Car rental sounds a good idea because you no need to buy goods. Your properties are cars. I think you can accept bitcoin as the payment because the transaction can be very personal.

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It seems to make bitcoin not fully arrive in the form offline, until today bitcoin is still in use as an online business, there are still many people who do not know about bitcoin, as I am still a beginner who needs a lot of guidance and direction.
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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.
This is really a brilliant idea since having this kind of business will give you profits in longer runs but accepting all payment terms to bitcoin is somehow risky since we do all know even price of bitcoin is rising,its volatility which makes it dangerous if you decide to go all in paying up on bitcoin.

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March 11, 2017, 07:49:13 AM
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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.
This is really a brilliant idea since having this kind of business will give you profits in longer runs but accepting all payment terms to bitcoin is somehow risky since we do all know even price of bitcoin is rising,its volatility which makes it dangerous if you decide to go all in paying up on bitcoin.

No thats not a brilliant idea, are you crazy? This is already being done by real estate developers and they are doing a fine job at it without using Bitcoin. Why do you think is Bitcoin needed to start something like that?

For a guy who claims to have thinking about it for a year, you sure didnt think about it hard enough.

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March 11, 2017, 01:14:35 PM
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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.
it is a brilliant idea. build a house that is a lot, then sell it. you will get a lot of profit. however noteworthy that the capital must be owned very large. Now just imagine the price of a house. we should really focus on the current bitcoin to have the capital to become a business in the future. all dreams can be realized when our best efforts we can do.

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March 11, 2017, 08:39:59 PM
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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.
it is a brilliant idea. build a house that is a lot, then sell it. you will get a lot of profit. however noteworthy that the capital must be owned very large. Now just imagine the price of a house. we should really focus on the current bitcoin to have the capital to become a business in the future. all dreams can be realized when our best efforts we can do.

It is a good idea if you can justify its assets to a State
in my country for online profits they take 55% tax
so it is impossible for me to justify some larger sums of money without having to pay tax
and a lot of taxes, If you want to be legally
but if it is in his country are allowed to why not to try

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March 11, 2017, 09:43:03 PM
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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.

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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.
What if we make it like create a new coin?  Make crowd funding on ICO and hire as many as investors online with minimum and maximum investment. I think it will be great. All investors will get their token as a prove they have invested on this project. They will get return with percentage and time that determined.

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March 12, 2017, 08:43:53 AM
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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.
What if we make it like create a new coin?  Make crowd funding on ICO and hire as many as investors online with minimum and maximum investment. I think it will be great. All investors will get their token as a prove they have invested on this project. They will get return with percentage and time that determined.

Im all for this idea as long as the tokens are not made tradable to any exchange. If it was there would be a lot of speculation in it, making it no better than the scamcoins that have been created in the past. But what is stopping this from becoming a ponzi?

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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.
What if we make it like create a new coin?  Make crowd funding on ICO and hire as many as investors online with minimum and maximum investment. I think it will be great. All investors will get their token as a prove they have invested on this project. They will get return with percentage and time that determined.

Im all for this idea as long as the tokens are not made tradable to any exchange. If it was there would be a lot of speculation in it, making it no better than the scamcoins that have been created in the past. But what is stoping this from becoming a ponzi?
If the minimum or maximum target of crowd funding have determined, I think there is no reason for this type of investment could be a ponzi scheme. Also like another offline investment, there is "wait time" for investors to get their ROI. They can't revoke their investment until the project done or the houses sold.

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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.
What if we make it like create a new coin?  Make crowd funding on ICO and hire as many as investors online with minimum and maximum investment. I think it will be great. All investors will get their token as a prove they have invested on this project. They will get return with percentage and time that determined.

Im all for this idea as long as the tokens are not made tradable to any exchange. If it was there would be a lot of speculation in it, making it no better than the scamcoins that have been created in the past. But what is stoping this from becoming a ponzi?
If the minimum or maximum target of crowd funding have determined, I think there is no reason for this type of investment could be a ponzi scheme. Also like another offline investment, there is "wait time" for investors to get their ROI. They can't revoke their investment until the project done or the houses sold.

Yes but how will this be different from all the ponzi scheme altcoins that we have seen? Your idea is not the first of its kind. There were already scammers who did this with commodity backed coins and other investment type coins like Paycoin.

If the tokens issued are disallowed from trading in any exchanges then it might work. Also the issuer must pay back the investors back with a fixed calculated interest.

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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.
What if we make it like create a new coin?  Make crowd funding on ICO and hire as many as investors online with minimum and maximum investment. I think it will be great. All investors will get their token as a prove they have invested on this project. They will get return with percentage and time that determined.

Im all for this idea as long as the tokens are not made tradable to any exchange. If it was there would be a lot of speculation in it, making it no better than the scamcoins that have been created in the past. But what is stoping this from becoming a ponzi?
If the minimum or maximum target of crowd funding have determined, I think there is no reason for this type of investment could be a ponzi scheme. Also like another offline investment, there is "wait time" for investors to get their ROI. They can't revoke their investment until the project done or the houses sold.

Yes but how will this be different from all the ponzi scheme altcoins that we have seen? Your idea is not the first of its kind. There were already scammers who did this with commodity backed coins and other investment type coins like Paycoin.

If the tokens issued are disallowed from trading in any exchanges then it might work. Also the issuer must pay back the investors back with a fixed calculated interest.
I am totally agree with all your statement about this idea. Tokens which can be trade in any exchanges will cut off the originality and characteristic of the project. I don't know how to make this not seen like a Ponzi scheme, but with this situation, at least I know that's why many developer need a smart financial thinker like you, dude.
It's​ just an idea in my head, and I think it will be great if some people can make it real with professional team even without me on there.

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March 13, 2017, 01:16:03 PM
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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.
This is really a brilliant idea since having this kind of business will give you profits in longer runs but accepting all payment terms to bitcoin is somehow risky since we do all know even price of bitcoin is rising,its volatility which makes it dangerous if you decide to go all in paying up on bitcoin.

No thats not a brilliant idea, are you crazy? This is already being done by real estate developers and they are doing a fine job at it without using Bitcoin. Why do you think is Bitcoin needed to start something like that?

For a guy who claims to have thinking about it for a year, you sure didnt think about it hard enough.
Try to read above comments and you will see what im talking about and most people do really see it as a good idea and would really be profitable but the risky really is always there,accepting bitcoin purely on the payment of those houses have do positive and negative impacts. If i do have the money to invest i would surely do this thing though.

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I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.
What if we make it like create a new coin?  Make crowd funding on ICO and hire as many as investors online with minimum and maximum investment. I think it will be great. All investors will get their token as a prove they have invested on this project. They will get return with percentage and time that determined.

Im all for this idea as long as the tokens are not made tradable to any exchange. If it was there would be a lot of speculation in it, making it no better than the scamcoins that have been created in the past. But what is stoping this from becoming a ponzi?
If the minimum or maximum target of crowd funding have determined, I think there is no reason for this type of investment could be a ponzi scheme. Also like another offline investment, there is "wait time" for investors to get their ROI. They can't revoke their investment until the project done or the houses sold.

Yes but how will this be different from all the ponzi scheme altcoins that we have seen? Your idea is not the first of its kind. There were already scammers who did this with commodity backed coins and other investment type coins like Paycoin.

If the tokens issued are disallowed from trading in any exchanges then it might work. Also the issuer must pay back the investors back with a fixed calculated interest.
I am totally agree with all your statement about this idea. Tokens which can be trade in any exchanges will cut off the originality and characteristic of the project. I don't know how to make this not seen like a Ponzi scheme, but with this situation, at least I know that's why many developer need a smart financial thinker like you, dude.
It's​ just an idea in my head, and I think it will be great if some people can make it real with professional team even without me on there.

What are you saying? Arent you a professional? I thought you were a finance guy when I was reading your posts because you seemed to know what youre talking about. Now Im curious what you do for a living and from what country are you from?

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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.

Wow, the best step. But it would be better to mention is you use the bitcoin for trading, for if at the moment you can get far greater benefits than other trading places. Where the exact time is at the time of an increase in the level of difficulty on mining (4 years). If you can do it then I believe and am confident of your benefit will be greater than the investment your home
 
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I invest bitcoin in my short films.
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Bitcoin is not yet popular in my place and not many knows about it but I have a plan to start my restaurant and I will give them an option to pay via bitcoins and that will draw their attention in knowing bitcoins and if they start using it then it will definitely help bitcoin economy.

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yes why not i invest my bitcoin then i plan to Start computer shop here in my country because many student here is need a computer to create project,assignment etc in school . As of now here in my country Philippines teacher focus on student  to learn computer because they need someday

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yes why not i invest my bitcoin then i plan to Start computer shop here in my country because many student here is need a computer to create project,assignment etc in school . As of now here in my country Philippines teacher focus on student  to learn computer because they need someday

Great idea on that, so for me I will work on remittance center in our country because there are lots who work outside of our town even in our country, then this center can help them for sure and so for me.


 
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March 26, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.

Wow, the best step. But it would be better to mention is you use the bitcoin for trading, for if at the moment you can get far greater benefits than other trading places. Where the exact time is at the time of an increase in the level of difficulty on mining (4 years). If you can do it then I believe and am confident of your benefit will be greater than the investment your home
 
Of course, use the bitcoin for trading is the best way to make money than other investment or
offline business like renting house. We are know that all business in any country is have tax for government,
in Bitcoin world, we are free from any tax because there is no government intervention.

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If i have lot of bitcoin i invest in buy 2 houses and one renting and other live.

Wow, the best step. But it would be better to mention is you use the bitcoin for trading, for if at the moment you can get far greater benefits than other trading places. Where the exact time is at the time of an increase in the level of difficulty on mining (4 years). If you can do it then I believe and am confident of your benefit will be greater than the investment your home
 
Of course, use the bitcoin for trading is the best way to make money than other investment or
offline business like renting house. We are know that all business in any country is have tax for government,
in Bitcoin world, we are free from any tax because there is no government intervention.
But taxes will be in small percentage when considering the possibilities of generating good income stream through those offline business idea like renting out properties. I will never mind paying some taxes when I am getting some assured and consistent income. Because paying tax from that would be a way to hlp my government to build my country further stronger.

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yes why not i invest my bitcoin then i plan to Start computer shop here in my country because many student here is need a computer to create project,assignment etc in school . As of now here in my country Philippines teacher focus on student  to learn computer because they need someday

A very good plan. Because by accepting the bitcoin as one payment in each transaction the store manage, then it will be more and more people more acquainted with bitcoin. But to be able to attract many enthusiasts to use the bitcoin, then you must provide several advantages are better if you want to use the bitcoin as payment instrument. Because in doing so they will be more confident and getting to know them, to use them bitcoin
 




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yes why not i invest my bitcoin then i plan to Start computer shop here in my country because many student here is need a computer to create project,assignment etc in school . As of now here in my country Philippines teacher focus on student  to learn computer because they need someday
I agree with you . it is a promising business. The current technology is developing very fast, bitcoin is part of the technological advances. if we can significantly contribute to the spread of technology could increase the price of bitcoin.

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See usually I can't directly invest bitcoin for any offline business.
But yes there is always a scope of
Converting your bitcoins into Fiat ,
And then using them for offline business.
This is because eventhough it has gained a lot of acceptance,
But still many platforms don't accept bitcoins.

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See usually I can't directly invest bitcoin for any offline business.
But yes there is always a scope of
Converting your bitcoins into Fiat ,
And then using them for offline business.
This is because eventhough it has gained a lot of acceptance,
But still many platforms don't accept bitcoins.


If you are doing any international import and export businesses via ship or air. Bitcoin would be the best mode of the option to reduce the fees, if you are involves in any international business. If you run project also you can get the payment bitcoin and change at Paypal or fiat cash in exchange.
Still we need more adoption to be a bitcoin as legal currency in any country, then local groceries also may accept bitcoin as a payment for local purchases.

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Yeah, I have BTC that I'm going to start investing in an offline clothing store.

It's a store that specializes in fair trade, sustainable clothing. I have had bitcoin in an old wallet from years ago, and so I might as well use it toward what I'm doing now.

I'm banking on the value of bitcoin going up with time. We'll wait and pray on that  Cheesy
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I also have plan investing in offline business i guess in time when i had enough btc to start with. since i already have cellphone and accessories business, im planning to build an extension in big malls here which is a good starting point to grow more my income, when i reach the amount i need for doing that i will definitely try my luck.
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March 28, 2017, 12:15:35 PM
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As I know most bitcoin users still focus on online business like trading, faucets and online store. If you have enough bitcoin would you invest your bitcoin in offline business like aggricultural Industry, Culinary or may be tourism Industry?

Bitcoin will be known by a lot of people if most bitcoin users use the bitcoin to do offline business. You can use your bitcoin for funding or payment. When your government prohibit bitcoin you can use bitcoin as funding option. I think if you can make sustainable and profitable offilne business there will be a lot of investors from bitcoin comunity who want to take a part in your businsess. Do you think this idea is possible?


I am planning to do something and the detail is posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820475.0
I want to relate crypto with agriculture based investment.

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