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June 30, 2011, 12:04:06 PM
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is multiclone up? I'm getting connection errors

Working for me and at least 5 other people right now.

Post your full miner string?
How can you tell?
Only thing I see when going to multiclone.us.to is
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Cannot find a lot of info on multiclone on this forum at all, any directions would be greatly appreciated.

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June 30, 2011, 12:35:37 PM
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Up to 2750 shares in with 2730 pending.

The 20 non-pending are from slush and report a utility of 19.422 and efficiency of .576.

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June 30, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
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is multiclone up? I'm getting connection errors

Working for me and at least 5 other people right now.

Post your full miner string?
How can you tell?
Only thing I see when going to multiclone.us.to is
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It works!

Cannot find a lot of info on multiclone on this forum at all, any directions would be greatly appreciated.

There's no global stats or anything, and there's nothing on the default web port on the multiclone server; I can see the number of users connected in the local Multipool log.

You need to connect to http://multiclone.us.to:18080 for your personal stats.  Instructions to connect to the Multiclone mining pool/server are in this post

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June 30, 2011, 01:08:35 PM
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And yes, I will work on the project.

Do you have any idea when multipool will be back online yet? (I know there is multiclone, and nick seems to know what he's doing.. still I want the original multipool back Cheesy )

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June 30, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
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There's no global stats or anything, and there's nothing on the default web port on the multiclone server; I can see the number of users connected in the local Multipool log.

You need to connect to http://multiclone.us.to:18080 for your personal stats.  Instructions to connect to the Multiclone mining pool/server are in this post
Thank you, and my apologies for not finding that post myself.
You got my shares, Sir.

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June 30, 2011, 01:40:58 PM
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Up to 2750 shares in with 2730 pending.

The 20 non-pending are from slush and report a utility of 19.422 and efficiency of .576.

Interestingly even the solo shares report a utility of less than 1. Their utility is .9.


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June 30, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
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Is a high reject rate normal on multiclone? Is this because of the long queue depth? I have 106 accepted and 25 rejected. That's like 19%
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June 30, 2011, 03:47:31 PM
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Is a high reject rate normal on multiclone? Is this because of the long queue depth? I have 106 accepted and 25 rejected. That's like 19%
I'm at 46 rejected on 1350 accepted = 3.4%

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June 30, 2011, 05:59:52 PM
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Up to 2750 shares in with 2730 pending.

The 20 non-pending are from slush and report a utility of 19.422 and efficiency of .576.
Please remember that just like with the original Multipool, it's going to take a while for the stats to become non-pending.  It has to wait until the parent pool has fully validated and released stats for a given round.  As I understand it, there'll typically be about a 24h delay for the stats to go non-pending.

Interestingly even the solo shares report a utility of less than 1. Their utility is .9.

I tweaked the static solo utility to lower it below 1.0, thinking that would further decrease the chance of the solo pool being selected (since it's quite unlikely we'd find something in solo).  I think, however, that the solo pool is always Multipool's last choice anyway.  I should probably just make the tweak to remove the solo pool entirely.
While we're doing that, I'll try adding deepbit and mt. red back in if it seems like they behave in local testing.


Is a high reject rate normal on multiclone? Is this because of the long queue depth? I have 106 accepted and 25 rejected. That's like 19%
If you joined right before a round ended, you might see those kind of results.  Overall, Multiclone has had a rejected rate of only about 2.1% in the past 18 hours.

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June 30, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
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My reject rate is 2% so far.

I have one non-pending 78 share entry for bitcoinpool which show earnings at 0 and efficiency at 0. Is this courtesy of their anti-hopping penalty siphoning off the pool's return?

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June 30, 2011, 06:56:03 PM
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My reject rate is 2% so far.

I have one non-pending 78 share entry for bitcoinpool which show earnings at 0 and efficiency at 0. Is this courtesy of their anti-hopping penalty siphoning off the pool's return?
Got that too for a 349 share from bitcoinpool.

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June 30, 2011, 08:31:08 PM
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@M4v3R on your multipool, all of the "earned" columns seem stuck on "pending", how do the payouts work with your multipool? Smiley

Yes, apart from deepbit and btcguild, all my earned columns are stuck at "pending" Sad
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June 30, 2011, 09:31:21 PM
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I'm looking into it now.

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June 30, 2011, 09:48:14 PM
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http://multiclone.us.to:18080/user/?address=1H36TPKaYcqDUK4CAN9PbaTGNB8ShJtYRN


This looks rather odd from bitcoinpool:
134055   Thu Jun 30 16:34:37 2011   132   238.659   0.00000000   0.000   0.00000000

Am I mining for nothing here?



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June 30, 2011, 09:56:57 PM
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Bitcoinpool will accept shares even if your login is incorrect. Credit is given to pool donations. They have seperate logins for the pool and the forums as well.
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June 30, 2011, 10:13:25 PM
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This also looks very strange at slush: (look at the efficiency compared to utility/shares)

133995   Thu Jun 30 09:02:05 2011   1   1.241   0.00013483   3.719   0.00000519
133992   Thu Jun 30 08:52:06 2011   5   8.216   0.00000225   0.012   0.00000000
133991   Thu Jun 30 08:17:52 2011   6   5.891   0.00006748   0.310   0.00000000
133986   Thu Jun 30 07:52:21 2011   3   4.946   0.00008378   0.770   0.00000000
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June 30, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
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Bitcoinpool will accept shares even if your login is incorrect. Credit is given to pool donations. They have seperate logins for the pool and the forums as well.

ding ding ding, we have a winner!

This is entirely my fault; I had the login credentials wrong for this pool.  I just did a pool restart to fix it.

If Multiclone doesn't end up re-calculating the bitcoinpool shares with proper crediting and thus automatically include these shares in the pool payout (I don't think it will, but lets wait and see), I'll pay out for these bitcoinpool shares from my personal wallet.  Either way, bitcoinpool won't be paying me/the Multiclone pool, but I'll do what I can to make it right.

Once new rounds start to get confirmed from bitcoinpool (so I know where the brokenness starts/stops), I'll tally up your 'broken' shares and pay out at Deepbit's PPS rate.  Sound fair?

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June 30, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
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This also looks very strange at slush: (look at the efficiency compared to utility/shares)

133995   Thu Jun 30 09:02:05 2011   1   1.241   0.00013483   3.719   0.00000519
133992   Thu Jun 30 08:52:06 2011   5   8.216   0.00000225   0.012   0.00000000
133991   Thu Jun 30 08:17:52 2011   6   5.891   0.00006748   0.310   0.00000000
133986   Thu Jun 30 07:52:21 2011   3   4.946   0.00008378   0.770   0.00000000

This comes from Slush (and btcmine) being score-based pools, designed to discourage pool hopping.  Actual efficiency doesn't seem to match very well with expected utility.  I've seriously considered removing them both as target pools for this reason.

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June 30, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
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This comes from Slush (and btcmine) being score-based pools, designed to discourage pool hopping.  Actual efficiency doesn't seem to match very well with expected utility.  I've seriously considered removing them both as target pools for this reason.

A scoring based pool might be just what we want as last resort instead of solo mining.
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June 30, 2011, 10:41:51 PM
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Once new rounds start to get confirmed from bitcoinpool (so I know where the brokenness starts/stops), I'll tally up your 'broken' shares and pay out at Deepbit's PPS rate.  Sound fair?

More than fair, since we all know it is a beta project.
I call it generous!

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