Translation of BFL update

[smoothie]

so nothing is wrong with the BFL chips other than they completely missed their power specifications??

This is the biggest bullshit statement ever. The whole point of ordering an ASIC is the power efficiency. Without that the chips are just as useless as doing SHA256 by paper and pencil. Rofl lol omfg haha

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html#

15 April 2013 Update

Short update today, more to come in the next day or two, hopefully.

We've been working on getting the software and firmware nailed down. Things are mostly stabilized at this point and with our current boards (we do not have the redesigned boards in house yet), power usage exceeds the 1w/GH, unfortunately, but it's much better than anything out by 40 - 50%, at the wall. We are gearing up to start shipping out some dev boards and a few Jalapeno's most likely this week (at least a few dev boards) and then as more chips roll in we'll be shipping out the Jalapeno's. When the new boards land in KC, we'll start shipping Little Singles and Singles at that time. I don't currently have a time frame for those, but I should have something later this week in regards to that.

Obviously, the minirig can't fit 1.5 TH/s in a case the size of what we were planning, but we have some interesting solutions with regards to that. Expect and update on there as well, but I did want to let everyone know we have several solutions to solve the minirig issue and we are moving forward on that front.

I did want to quash any rumors that there was something wrong with the chips; there isn't. The chips themselves are fine (other than using more power than we expected), the delay is strictly due to having to re-engineer the power system on the boards (which requires a larger PCB redesign to a degree) and refine/streamline our processes for getting chips from silicon to mounted on boards. Things will be rolling along soon, albeit a bit slow at first, and then picking up speed as the whole process is optimized and finalized.

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[glendall]

I sneaked into BFL last night.

Wasn't easy. They have lazers and genetically engineered attack dogs.

Took a lot of work but got an actual picture of the new Mini-Rig design.  It's a little,little bit off of on the power per hash predictions, and a little larger, but it is still worth at least 300 November '12 bitcoins:

[PulsedMedia]

lol funny. They missed their target, still the most efficient thing in the works
This FUD and BFL bashing has gone so funny

[Phinnaeus Gage]

[IMakeComps]

you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced

[Phinnaeus Gage]

you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced

Ergo, they met them.

[Syke]

you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced

"BitForce SC Jalapeno: a USB powered coffee warmer providing 3.5 GH/s, priced at under $149"

That "USB powered" sure looks like a power spec to me.

[creativex]

you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced

You're mistaken. Also there was no competition back then. BFL torpedoed the FPGA market with their premature ASIC vaporware announcement, then further solidified their position as lead vaporware dealer with their unrealistic power simulations.

Market manipulation followed up with lies and more lies.

[glendall]

You know I'd almost be more impressed by BFL if they planned to fail as much as they have; or it was an elaborate profit making scam. But I think it has been an accident and they are just borderline incompetent.

Not that they think they are a scam. But even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company.

[Fuzzy]

even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company.

Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock...

[creativex]

You know I'd almost be more impressed by BFL if they planned to fail as much as they have; or it was an elaborate profit making scam. But I think it has been an accident and they are just borderline incompetent.

Not that they think they are a scam. But even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company.

It was a scam from day one. At no point in 2012 did they posses the ability to ship the ASIC mining pre-orders they sold, yet they repeatedly led investors to believe shipping was imminent. Six months after their original shipping date has come and gone there's less guidance now on when product shipments will actually commence. That's not incompetence, it's fraud.

[abbyd]

even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company.

Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock...

Their clocks have been in stock for 2214 years!

[DPoS]

even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company.

Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock...

Their clocks have been in stock for 2214 years!

if you include the wattage of the sun to operate that, it isn't very power friendly

[Phinnaeus Gage]

if you include the wattage of the sun to operate that, it isn't very power friendly

Damn, I wish I would've known that before I pre-ordered the Mega.



BTW, does your model heat coffee?

[smoothie]

Wow thanks for the laughs guys.


BFL should do stand up comedy...they might make a fortune hahahaha

[chipd]

Wow thanks for the laughs guys.


BFL should do stand up comedy...they might make a fortune hahahaha

They are already a big joke.

[PuertoLibre]

even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company.

Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock...

Their clocks have been in stock for 2214 years!

if you include the wattage of the sun to operate that, it isn't very power friendly

It is only 58 to 170 petawatts of sunlight?

[Micon]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

And if you don't get a refund, Josh's sister will gladly point you the way to BFL's front door: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdhMSEqhfg

[Inaba]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

[creativex]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You should probably start a scammer accusation thread Josh!

Curse that Micon!

He takes in all those pre-order funds, lies about shipping dates, lies about power consumption, rigs BoB bets, lies about charity donations...uh wait...what did Micon do again?

[Minor Miner]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You seem pretty cocky for someone that is shipping a substandard product over six months after he started saying he was shipping in two weeks.   Why don't you just admit you were wrong and start apologizing to some of the people that told you what was wrong with your "designs" and then try to regain some credibility?

[smoothie]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You seem pretty cocky for someone that is shipping a substandard product over six months after he started saying he was shipping in two weeks.   Why don't you just admit you were wrong and start apologizing to some of the people that told you what was wrong with your "designs" and then try to regain some credibility?

I doubt this will ever happen. He would run with customer funds before this ever happens. Josh prove me wrong and take it like a wussy up the ass when the Feds come after you and your BFL entourage.

[DPoS]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You've been lying since last fall



P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it

[Syke]

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.

Sure there is. It's right here:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets.html

You failed. Pay up.

[Inaba]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You've been lying since last fall



P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it

Please provide proof of your accusations.  Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW.

[DPoS]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You've been lying since last fall



P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it

Please provide proof of your accusations.  Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW.

so when you endlessly say 'should be shipping in a week'  no one should ever believe you?

if that's the case, then sure, you haven't been lying

[Bicknellski]

https://twitter.com/BFL_News/status/318601948678983681

You people can't have it both ways. You say that if we (the customer) paid for mining gear in BTC then request a refund BFL is only required to refund the USD equivalent b/c it was priced in USD. I'll concede that.

The same holds true with the wager. They announced 1000 BTC they owe 1000 BTC.

The double standard some of you hold is amazing to me.

- wdBTCtrader - 04-07-2013, 01:31 PM

[Inaba]

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You've been lying since last fall



P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it

Please provide proof of your accusations.  Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW.

so when you endlessly say 'should be shipping in a week'  no one should ever believe you?

if that's the case, then sure, you haven't been lying

There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote.  lrn2grmr

[DPoS]

There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote.  lrn2grmr

Holy fuck you are right!!  You never committed to anything except being a total douche who's miserable with projections... you'd think you were getting paid to be a project manager but you were just getting paid to keep pre-orders coming in!

Fantastic job - well done

How's that MiniRig doing?

[Inaba]

Nope, I did not commit to that, either.  When I commit to something, you'll know it. 

PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise).  Battin' 0 here partner.

[Syke]

Nope, I did not commit to that, either.  When I commit to something, you'll know it. 

When are you going to follow through on your commitments?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets.html

[peetah]

Earthquake in Sichuan. Could do with a bit of love from charitable organizations.

[k9quaint]

Given a perfect track record of promises kept, I would fully trust any warranty BFL offered on their product.

[tigerfree]

Josh when you will ship our product !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pizza]

You can tell what a moron Josh is also. Works for free in a job where he will probably get a heart attack in the next year from all his raging.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Nope, I did not commit to that, either.  When I commit to something, you'll know it. 

PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise).  Battin' 0 here partner.

A Project Manager reports directly to the Chief Operating Officer, in this case Josh. I'm not sure who the PM is at BFL, but if there isn't one, then Josh, as COO, takes on that role as well. Either way, since the PM reports to the COO, the COO is aware of everything that happens in which the PM is in control of. If the COO doesn't know what's happening, then there's major problems at BFL.

[John Self]

There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote.  lrn2grmr

How's that MiniRig doing?

Have you seen this interview with minirig buyers?
You'll need subtitles.
http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE

[creativex]

He didn't contract the company.

because their responses were (and remain)
unprofessional
uncalled for
amateur

Cross post.

Amateur is right. Here's the COO of BFL at his best. Taking zero responsibility for anything ever.

Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s

Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag?

There isn't one.  Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements.   His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product.  When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats.

Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer.  Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation.

You've been lying since last fall

P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it

Please provide proof of your accusations.  Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW.

so when you endlessly say 'should be shipping in a week'  no one should ever believe you?

if that's the case, then sure, you haven't been lying

There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote.  lrn2grmr

There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote.  lrn2grmr

Holy fuck you are right!!  You never committed to anything except being a total douche who's miserable with projections... you'd think you were getting paid to be a project manager but you were just getting paid to keep pre-orders coming in!

Fantastic job - well done

How's that MiniRig doing?

Nope, I did not commit to that, either.  When I commit to something, you'll know it.  

PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise).  Battin' 0 here partner.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179939.msg1898552#msg1898552

[smoothie]

Nope, I did not commit to that, either.  When I commit to something, you'll know it. 

PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise).  Battin' 0 here partner.

A Project Manager reports directly to the Chief Operating Officer, in this case Josh. I'm not sure who the PM is at BFL, but if there isn't one, then Josh, as COO, takes on that role as well. Either way, since the PM reports to the COO, the COO is aware of everything that happens in which the PM is in control of. If the COO doesn't know what's happening, then there's major problems at BFL.

Josh isn't that smart to know this PG.

 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote.  lrn2grmr

How's that MiniRig doing?

Have you seen this interview with minirig buyers?
You'll need subtitles.
http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE

That spoof brings tears to my eyes each time I view it.

[abbyd]

Have you seen this interview with minirig buyers?
You'll need subtitles.
http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE

That spoof brings tears to my eyes each time I view it.

Wasn't sure it existed, but a quick youtube search for "Hitler BFL" struck gold:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3SLjfYD_wU

"Don't worry about ROI, we can be BTC cam whores". LOL.
Sorry if overposted...