QTUM - calling all S-C-A-M Hunters. Billionaires, whales, chinese exchanges??

[cryptohunter]

Is it verified true?? and do these whales and other prestigious btc figures know its (QTUMS) founder is unraveling as previous scammer? How to contact roger ver I hope he has not been duped? is he even involved or perhaps they are just name dropping to garner support and legitimacy. What about the legit Billionaire?

What's up with QTUM - looks great - invested in by billionaires - backed by BTC whales - new chinese exchanges ready to accept and trade - great sig campaign - forbes, crypto publications all love it .... looked like a great new project right??

I thought it looked and sounded very appealing and was going to throw my usual btc weight around 0.1 - 0.25 btc for rare and promising ico gems.

But wait I am told 2 days ago that the founder is steven dai (now calling himself patrick dai) a known scammer extracting over 200BTC from bitbays investors and then refusing to do any work at all on the project ....but rather just take the 200 BTC and start his own new project QTUM

IS THIS CORRECT?? - seems like that shouldn't really work out too well.?

Is it even true there are billionaires, rodger ver and other very well known members of the btc community backing this or is that all just a load of scam propaganda?

I would love to see the real scam investigators look into this before 100% drawing conclusions about it.

I went to the qtum thread to hear more about it and there is nobody there with any real authority or knowledge to comment on it.

I have no investigative skills. So who can help us all out here and find out if this really is the very same steven dai that is a known scammer.

These guys need to be notified asap too... if you know how to directly contact any of them perhaps we should do our bit to at least give them the chance in investigate this themselves.

blah blah.... Chen Weixing, the billionaire founder of Kuaidi being in the fold, there is Anthony Di Iorio, Ethereum founder and CEO of JaxxWallet; Jeremy Gardner, co-founder of Augur and EIR at Blockchain Capital; David Lee Cuo Chuen, founder of Left Coast, Libai, and DLEE Capital Management.

Then there is Bo Shen, General Partner at Fenbushi Capital; Jehan Chu, Managing Partner at Jen Advisors; Qingzhong Gao, director of Huawei Strategic Cooperation; Xu Star, OKCoin CEO; Lihua Yi; and, Partner of ZhongWo Investment. Add to that Xiaolai Li, one of biggest bitcoin holders in the world and a Blockchain Angel backer.

This is like the DD and scrutiny all these ICOs should go through reall especially the big ones.

It starts in march so we have time to analyse all of this thoroughly.

Great project or scammer self enrichment scheme building up steem?

This is not a techincal analysis of the project this is an investigation into the possible scammer who is the founder and probably main beneficiary of this project

scam project or scammer or what?


Nothing except blatantly off topic or copious swearing will be deleted. If you don't like it create your own thread and say anything you like.

What should happen if there is fire to accompany this toxic smoke?

[bravehearth0319]

Is it verified true?? and do these whales and other prestigious btc figures know its (QTUMS) founder is unraveling as previous scammer? How to contact roger ver I hope he has not been duped? is he even involved or perhaps they are just name dropping to garner support and legitimacy. What about the legit Billionaire?

What's up with QTUM - looks great - invested in by billionaires - backed by BTC whales - new chinese exchanges ready to accept and trade - great sig campaign - forbes, crypto publications all love it .... looked like a great new project right??

I thought it looked and sounded very appealing and was going to throw my usual btc weight around 0.1 - 0.25 btc for rare and promising ico gems.

But wait I am told 2 days ago that the founder is steven dai (now calling himself patrick dai) a known scammer extracting over 200BTC from bitbays investors and then refusing to do any work at all on the project ....but rather just take the 200 BTC and start his own new project QTUM

IS THIS CORRECT?? - seems like that shouldn't really work out too well.?

Is it even true there are billionaires, rodger ver and other very well known members of the btc community backing this or is that all just a load of scam propaganda?

I would love to see the real scam investigators look into this before 100% drawing conclusions about it.

I went to the qtum thread to hear more about it and there is nobody there with any real authority or knowledge to comment on it.

I have no investigative skills. So who can help us all out here and find out if this really is the very same steven dai that is a known scammer.

These guys need to be notified asap too... if you know how to directly contact any of them perhaps we should do our bit to at least give them the chance in investigate this themselves.

blah blah.... Chen Weixing, the billionaire founder of Kuaidi being in the fold, there is Anthony Di Iorio, Ethereum founder and CEO of JaxxWallet; Jeremy Gardner, co-founder of Augur and EIR at Blockchain Capital; David Lee Cuo Chuen, founder of Left Coast, Libai, and DLEE Capital Management.

Then there is Bo Shen, General Partner at Fenbushi Capital; Jehan Chu, Managing Partner at Jen Advisors; Qingzhong Gao, director of Huawei Strategic Cooperation; Xu Star, OKCoin CEO; Lihua Yi; and, Partner of ZhongWo Investment. Add to that Xiaolai Li, one of biggest bitcoin holders in the world and a Blockchain Angel backer.

This is like the DD and scrutiny all these ICOs should go through reall especially the big ones.

It starts in march so we have time to analyse all of this thoroughly.

Great project or scammer self enrichment scheme building up steem?

This is not a techincal analysis of the project this is an investigation into the possible scammer who is the founder and probably main beneficiary of this project

scam project or scammer or what?


Nothing except blatantly off topic or copious swearing will be deleted. If you don't like it create your own thread and say anything you like.

Are you saying that Qtum founder is steven dai or as patrict dai,  known as scammer who extracted 200BTC in bitbay investors. That's a seriously accusation dude. though I'm not depending qtum, but if that is true this will be also a serious problem with qtum also.

[cryptohunter]

Is it verified true?? and do these whales and other prestigious btc figures know its (QTUMS) founder is unraveling as previous scammer? How to contact roger ver I hope he has not been duped? is he even involved or perhaps they are just name dropping to garner support and legitimacy. What about the legit Billionaire?

What's up with QTUM - looks great - invested in by billionaires - backed by BTC whales - new chinese exchanges ready to accept and trade - great sig campaign - forbes, crypto publications all love it .... looked like a great new project right??

I thought it looked and sounded very appealing and was going to throw my usual btc weight around 0.1 - 0.25 btc for rare and promising ico gems.

But wait I am told 2 days ago that the founder is steven dai (now calling himself patrick dai) a known scammer extracting over 200BTC from bitbays investors and then refusing to do any work at all on the project ....but rather just take the 200 BTC and start his own new project QTUM

IS THIS CORRECT?? - seems like that shouldn't really work out too well.?

Is it even true there are billionaires, rodger ver and other very well known members of the btc community backing this or is that all just a load of scam propaganda?

I would love to see the real scam investigators look into this before 100% drawing conclusions about it.

I went to the qtum thread to hear more about it and there is nobody there with any real authority or knowledge to comment on it.

I have no investigative skills. So who can help us all out here and find out if this really is the very same steven dai that is a known scammer.

These guys need to be notified asap too... if you know how to directly contact any of them perhaps we should do our bit to at least give them the chance in investigate this themselves.

blah blah.... Chen Weixing, the billionaire founder of Kuaidi being in the fold, there is Anthony Di Iorio, Ethereum founder and CEO of JaxxWallet; Jeremy Gardner, co-founder of Augur and EIR at Blockchain Capital; David Lee Cuo Chuen, founder of Left Coast, Libai, and DLEE Capital Management.

Then there is Bo Shen, General Partner at Fenbushi Capital; Jehan Chu, Managing Partner at Jen Advisors; Qingzhong Gao, director of Huawei Strategic Cooperation; Xu Star, OKCoin CEO; Lihua Yi; and, Partner of ZhongWo Investment. Add to that Xiaolai Li, one of biggest bitcoin holders in the world and a Blockchain Angel backer.

This is like the DD and scrutiny all these ICOs should go through reall especially the big ones.

It starts in march so we have time to analyse all of this thoroughly.

Great project or scammer self enrichment scheme building up steem?

This is not a techincal analysis of the project this is an investigation into the possible scammer who is the founder and probably main beneficiary of this project

scam project or scammer or what?


Nothing except blatantly off topic or copious swearing will be deleted. If you don't like it create your own thread and say anything you like.

Are you saying that Qtum founder is steven dai or as patrict dai,  known as scammer who extracted 200BTC in bitbay investors. That's a seriously accusation dude. though I'm not depending qtum, but if that is true this will be also a serious problem with qtum also.

I am saying that is EXACTLY  what i have been told and I would think this deserves further investigation right now for sure.

I never accuse I only ask the question. If it is not him then of course there is no problem. If it IS him then.......yes I would think that could be a huge problem for that project. I don't think you can just boot out the founder can you?

Then again perhaps it is not him but this question needs clearing up before hand.

[xtyling]

Don't know if this is true or not but there are flooding posts on this issue both on the Qtum and BitBay threads

What caught my attention mainly is this message below:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890531.msg17942817#msg17942817

The fact that github is not updated makes me perplex whether those accusations might be true with the whole team being in or not. But this we don't know

[cryptonikus]

keep this thread updated please, we need some proofs and short summary, doesnt make sense to read tons of posts from confused investors.

[savioroshan]

Please dont write anything without any proof. If you have solid proof ok its fine to write. QTUM is really a great project backed by big tycoons.Even you can see, there signature campaign was one of the best. I was one among them who participated in QTUM signature campaign.Please try to collect some proof and publish it.  QTUM has got a good potential .These types of comments will affect the reputation of QTUM digital currency itself.

[dwgscale11]

BTC, LTC = Legit
99.9% of other coins = scams

[cryptohunter]

Please dont write anything without any proof. If you have solid proof ok its fine to write. QTUM is really a great project backed by big tycoons.Even you can see, there signature campaign was one of the best. I was one among them who participated in QTUM signature campaign.Please try to collect some proof and publish it.  QTUM has got a good potential .These types of comments will affect the reputation of QTUM digital currency itself.

You are 100% correct. Of course we won't speculate or guess we are only interested in getting to the truth of the matter. If this person is not the same person that stole 200BTC + bay tokens from the bitbay ico then we can carry on and delete this thread.

However before we get started with the ICO this question should be addressed of course.

[scambust]

Let me add another red flag into your decision making.

Roger Ver hates Star Xu. He is in a legal battle with Okcoin.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-investor-roger-ver-to-push-for-okcoin-liquidation-in-court/


Do you honestly think they can work together?

As I see it, the project lumped together all the popular people in crypto to create an illusion of an all-star team. Even this Bo Shen, lolz. Do some googling to understand.

[Zwarg]

Here are a few more red flags

1. It is now 3 days since allogations where made that Patrick Dai is Steven Dai, and still no response from QTUM team
2. Other relevant questions are also not answered in slack or ANN thread
3. It is not possible to find any any trace of the 4000 chinese that alledgedly are going to invest
4. There are 1317 members on their slack, but less activity than most slacks with 100 members that I have seen. Are those members real?
5. The ICO has not been yet. Why then is there a lot of people that blindly defend this project without being invested in it. Are they paid shills? If so, why are they needed?

None of the above is conclusive evidence of anything, but it makes me wonder...

[favdesu]

most of the time you don't have to deep dive, just look who's shilling for that shit gives you an easy answer.

[savioroshan]

Please dont write anything without any proof. If you have solid proof ok its fine to write. QTUM is really a great project backed by big tycoons.Even you can see, there signature campaign was one of the best. I was one among them who participated in QTUM signature campaign.Please try to collect some proof and publish it.  QTUM has got a good potential .These types of comments will affect the reputation of QTUM digital currency itself.

You are 100% correct. Of course we won't speculate or guess we are only interested in getting to the truth of the matter. If this person is not the same person that stole 200BTC + bay tokens from the bitbay ico then we can carry on and delete this thread.

However before we get started with the ICO this question should be addressed of course.

Yes you are right and its our right to know the truth. Having a negative thought in people's mind is also not good for the QTUM currency that too at the stage of starting ICO. It will only degrade its value. I hope QTUM team will clarify the doubts as early as possible. At present they may be busy in launching their ICO. Hope they will respond fast to this issue and  come out clean.

[X-ray]

Let me add another red flag into your decision making.

Roger Ver hates Star Xu. He is in a legal battle with Okcoin.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-investor-roger-ver-to-push-for-okcoin-liquidation-in-court/


Do you honestly think they can work together?

As I see it, the project lumped together all the popular people in crypto to create an illusion of an all-star team. Even this Bo Shen, lolz. Do some googling to understand.

Too many illusions on the qtum project, Does roger ver realize if he on the same way with Star Xu. And i don't think if Okcoin is good project. So, the founder is trying to manipulating the condition and make a lot of the people are supporting qtum project. But this is my opinion. I respect about the others people's opinion.

[cryptohunter]

Confirmed that patrik dai is stephen dai who scammed bitbay.

Qtum is done.

Next.

But was roger ver really in with this lot?

[Undermood]

Confirmed that patrik dai is stephen dai who scammed bitbay.

Qtum is done.

Next.

But was roger ver really in with this lot?

where did you get this information? Could you post source link here ？

[iamnotback]

My 2 cents...

Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform | Crowdsale March 2017

Why are people even excited by this technobabble of marrying several technologies which don't scale? This is not breaking any new ground. It is just an rehashed, mashing together of technologies that already don't work well.

Let's be honest with ourselves about the relevance of your bullshit.

Nobody has solved the blockchain scaling problem yet (except by centralization but that doesn't scale in terms of trust).

When are you fools going to stop rewarding scammers to delude us with technobabble bullshit?

They already have a $million in funding. That is enough for them to go build a project and launch it. Then they can self-fund by selling tokens on the exchanges in a free market.

Stop handing people $millions for writing a technobabble bullshit whitepaper. You are destroying the ecosystem. The criminals are siphoning off all the capital and none will be remaining. That is why our ecosystem is stagnating. No progress is being made.

Re: Stay away from ICO

Who cares if Monero and Dash are scams when you can make good money on every pump and dump.

Scammers take capital out of the ecosystem and spend it on crack, Yachts, booze, and prostitutes.

You personally may get richer (if you are a good speculator), while on average the ecosystem gets poorer, unless of course we are bringing more new fools (and their capital) into our ecosystem from outside of it.

So eventually there could be no ecosystem remaining for you to speculate in.

My opinion is we have a window of time (5 - 10 years?) within which to leverage this opportunity to produce something really significant that could help the world. And to produce a $trillion marketcap.

Any way, please continue what you are doing. Hopefully those who developers who are serious will find a way to operate within this ecosystem so we don't lose the potential.

[JosNekoKopa]

I already read this in Black Coin thread.. I thought this is only FUD..
Strange times are coming with BTC rise we can expect everything, and this can come from anyone.
They had very successful camapigns with very good payments rates, and everything went fine.

[irukandji]

I never accuse I only ask the question.

Ok...you never accuse.

Confirmed that patrik dai is stephen dai who scammed bitbay.

Qtum is done.

Next.

But you just accused without any evidence.     

[iamnotback]

Confirmed that patrik dai is stephen dai who scammed bitbay.

Qtum is done.

Next.

But you just accused without any evidence.    

The accused admitted his involvement.

[cryptohunter]

I never accuse I only ask the question.

Ok...you never accuse.

Confirmed that patrik dai is stephen dai who scammed bitbay.

Qtum is done.

Next.

But you just accused without any evidence.    

He confirmed it himself in a statement. Go read the qtum thread in detail it's all there.