Police State?

[1m1nd]

My country is a police state. I suppose we'll just have to disagree on what we're each perceiving.

Too bad this poster is an idiot and wholly illiterate:

": a country in which the activities of the people are strictly controlled by the government with the help of a police force"

Terrorist lover.

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[Hawker]

Then we can agree that you regard all countries as police states? 

I'll quote:

States operate by tyranny.

If the few rule the many, a police state is the result. Always.

myrkul is against the entire idea of a state. Its a legitimate point of view but has little bearing on whether or not its meaningful to call the US a "police state."  

Since you regard all states as "police states" I guess we can move on.  I can't help but wonder what adjective you want to use for states like China but that is another day's discussion.

[1m1nd]

You might not have experienced it, but plenty have.

When I got my johnson grabbed by the fake cop at the airport a few years ago was my clue. I'm not sure what it takes for other people to see it.

Needless to say, homie ain't flying as long as the Feds are in charge of the gates at the airports.

Watching a cop bodily pick up a kid half his size and slam his head into a stone bollard sealed the deal. I vividly remember the sound of his skull cracking against the stone.

I've stood in court and seen a case against me dismissed as the police had forged the evidence and accidentally had different sets of signatures on the "carbon copies."  But there is the world of difference between not trusting the police and in saying you live in a "police state."  The latter implies that there are other states that are so much more free that your state is repressive.

No, it doesn't. If there was only one state in the world it could still be a police state.

But there are over 100 states in the world and if all of them are "police states" then the term is meaningless.  It implies that tyranny is normal and we should expect it.

That is the implication, yes.  

[Hawker]

 

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But there are over 100 states in the world and if all of them are "police states" then the term is meaningless.  It implies that tyranny is normal and we should expect it.

That is the implication, yes.  

OK.  I guess we need a new word to describe what used be called "tyrannies" now that we are using "tyranny" for normal states.  I'm sure the people of Syria will be delighted to know that they no longer live in a tyranny and await the new description of their state with bated breath.

[Viceroy]

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Terrorist lover.

LOL, you are calling me a terrorist lover.  I should sue you for libel, fucking idiot.  I'm certain you have no assets worth taking.

[myrkul]

Then we can agree that you regard all countries as police states? 

I'll quote:

States operate by tyranny.

If the few rule the many, a police state is the result. Always.

myrkul is against the entire idea of a state. Its a legitimate point of view but has little bearing on whether or not its meaningful to call the US a "police state."  

Since you regard all states as "police states" I guess we can move on.  I can't help but wonder what adjective you want to use for states like China but that is another day's discussion.

I believe "communist" is a valid adjective. i.e.: "Communist police state." Those do tend to be the worst of the crop.

[Viceroy]

ROFL, so the difference between the US and China is simply "communism".

OMFG you dolt, are you out of diapers?

[1m1nd]

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But there are over 100 states in the world and if all of them are "police states" then the term is meaningless.  It implies that tyranny is normal and we should expect it.

That is the implication, yes.  

OK.  I guess we need a new word to describe what used be called "tyrannies" now that we are using "tyranny" for normal states.  I'm sure the people of Syria will be delighted to know that they no longer live in a tyranny and await the new description of their state with bated breath.

Syria remains a tyranny, something the US has never been.

I have the full backing of the Syrian people. 

Terrorist lover.

LOL, you are calling me a terrorist lover.  I should sue you for libel, fucking idiot.

See you in internet court...you're going to internet jail

[Hawker]

Then we can agree that you regard all countries as police states? 

I'll quote:

States operate by tyranny.

If the few rule the many, a police state is the result. Always.

myrkul is against the entire idea of a state. Its a legitimate point of view but has little bearing on whether or not its meaningful to call the US a "police state."  

Since you regard all states as "police states" I guess we can move on.  I can't help but wonder what adjective you want to use for states like China but that is another day's discussion.

I believe "communist" is a valid adjective. i.e.: "Communist police state." Those do tend to be the worst of the crop.

Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt; none are communist and in the old days before the word "tyranny" meant normal, we used to call all of them "tyrannies."

I wonder what we should call them now?  

[Viceroy]

No, it doesn't. If there was only one state in the world it could still be a police state.

America is not a police state.  Here is the definition:

"a country in which the activities of the people are strictly controlled by the government with the help of a police force".

See you in internet court...you're going to internet jail

Once again we have a know-it-all.  I can most certainly find you, that is not an issue (for me).  Where I live, in Colorado Springs, the law actually allows me to prosecute you in civil court and if I can establish that what you said caused me personal damage I could bring my case to the district attorney who could put you in jail because, you see, in Colorado LIBEL IS CRIMINAL.

And we have APC's.  (And the Air Force Academy, and Ft Carson, and Peterson Air Force Base and NORAD). So fuck you.

[1m1nd]

ROFL, so the difference between the US and China is simply "communism".

OMFG you dolt, are you out of diapers?

China could be classified as an authoritarian state and the US as a plutocracy.

Then we can agree that you regard all countries as police states? 

I'll quote:

States operate by tyranny.

If the few rule the many, a police state is the result. Always.

myrkul is against the entire idea of a state. Its a legitimate point of view but has little bearing on whether or not its meaningful to call the US a "police state."  

Since you regard all states as "police states" I guess we can move on.  I can't help but wonder what adjective you want to use for states like China but that is another day's discussion.

I believe "communist" is a valid adjective. i.e.: "Communist police state." Those do tend to be the worst of the crop.

Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt; none are communist and in the old days before the word "tyranny" meant normal, we used to call all of them "tyrannies."

I wonder what we should call them now?  

Syria - Fractured state (civil war)
Iran - Religious Oligarchy
Saudi Arabia - Monarchy
Egypt - Transitional state

[Viceroy]

and the US as a plutocracy.

Which is not a what? 

Which is not a Police State.

[Hawker]

TBH I think I'll stick with calling them police states and calling the UK and US "states."  

[Viceroy]

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[myrkul]

Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt; none are communist and in the old days before the word "tyranny" meant normal, we used to call all of them "tyrannies."

I wonder what we should call them now?  

"States"?

[1m1nd]

and the US as a plutocracy.

Which is not a what?  

Which is not a Police State.

 

edit_the terms are not mutually exclusive

Bored of semantics...god save the queen

[Viceroy]

>Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt;
>I wonder what we should call them now?  

Festering shitholes?

edit:
Saudi Arabia is a pretty place from what I see in pictures.  If you like camels.

[myrkul]

Just as a refresher, in case anyone doesn't know:

ter·ror·ism 
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
Noun
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

I'd say this meets that definition:


Ergo, statists are terrorist lovers. Carry on.

[Viceroy]

How does an APC = terrorism?  The APC is the tool designed to DEAL with the terrorists.  Are you 5?

OH NOES POLICE STATE IN ACTION:
http://www.npr.org/2013/04/23/178651009/justices-say-u-s-improperly-deported-man-over-marijuana

[myrkul]

ter·ror·ism 
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
Noun
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.