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I see a bunch of Antminers on Amazon for around 150$ id need to buy the power supply, I also dont pay for power where im staying. Should I invest?
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March 14, 2017, 12:32:02 AM |
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Along with ^^ is the fact that ever since the s2, with the exception of the s3/s3+, Antminers have been - loud. S7's are the start of the sirens...
That said, I have 2x s9's running in my basement so the noise *can* be dealt with to some extent.
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March 14, 2017, 02:11:26 AM |
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So pretty much if im not willing to invest 5-10k it wont be worth it?
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March 14, 2017, 04:33:31 AM |
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So pretty much if im not willing to invest 5-10k it wont be worth it?
Hard to answer. But if you are USA based and have free power you could buy two Avalon 741 along with controller. Reliable should turn a profit for you. Canaan.io. Is the website. Two machines with controller and shipping are about 1900. And some psus maybe 300 so 2200 net . You would break even in a year .
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March 14, 2017, 04:43:13 AM Last edit: March 14, 2017, 05:05:31 AM by vh |
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The $ increase only scales the net. If you don't net profit, then it doesn't help. If you manage to get yourself: 1. A working device on the first try. 2. A good buy price (30-40% under 6 month gross) 3. Low electricity. Succeeding in two of the three will lean more towards being worth it. Still a bet on how things will look 6 months from now. Use this tool I clobbled together to think about it: http://mining.tipsternet.com/miner.htmlAnd check the forums on vendor product complaints *cough*Antminers*cough*.
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March 14, 2017, 12:29:27 PM |
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So pretty much if im not willing to invest 5-10k it wont be worth it?
Hard to answer. But if you are USA based and have free power you could buy two Avalon 741 along with controller. Reliable should turn a profit for you. Canaan.io. Is the website. Two machines with controller and shipping are about 1900. And some psus maybe 300 so 2200 net . You would break even in a year . Thanks for ur reply so much. Actually I was thinking to invest in ASIC but I really have no idea about the ROI. Some ASICs require ~2 years to break even, to me, I think it is too long. And you have mentioned a good point = reliable.
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March 14, 2017, 10:37:26 PM |
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Thanks so much for your replies!
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Invest in GPU's,you can sell em for almost what bought em for,unlike ASICs all ways drop as diff increases.....& diff will all ways increase ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Build a 4 card rig & mine altcoins,forget BTC mining it belongs to the large mining corps now ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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Invest in GPU's,you can sell em for almost what bought em for,unlike ASICs all ways drop as diff increases.....& diff will all ways increase ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Build a 4 card rig & mine altcoins,forget BTC mining it belongs to the large mining corps now ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) This. Definitely this. If you are looking for a shorter and more rewarding way you should buy rigs and mine with them for altcoins. Specially new altcoins that comes out of the market. Then you can be one of the first ones to mine it and get in early and get out early. There were multiple coin pools where they mine the most profitable one and if you use your rig there you will make decent amount money. You can resell the rig as well.
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March 18, 2017, 06:50:40 AM Last edit: March 19, 2017, 06:56:34 AM by Amph |
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Invest in GPU's,you can sell em for almost what bought em for,unlike ASICs all ways drop as diff increases.....& diff will all ways increase ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Build a 4 card rig & mine altcoins,forget BTC mining it belongs to the large mining corps now ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) yes but generally an asic die only when a better one come out, and the antminer s9 is still the king, so it will not be unprofitable for a long time i want to note that x11 asic are more profitable than anything at the moment, better than gpu and antminer, and they efficiency is very good compared to their contenders
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March 18, 2017, 09:38:29 AM |
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Invest in GPU's,you can sell em for almost what bought em for,unlike ASICs all ways drop as diff increases.....& diff will all ways increase ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Build a 4 card rig & mine altcoins,forget BTC mining it belongs to the large mining corps now ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The problem is that the GPU miners are more difficult to set up if you do it yourself.
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March 19, 2017, 10:54:46 PM |
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Invest in GPU's,you can sell em for almost what bought em for,unlike ASICs all ways drop as diff increases.....& diff will all ways increase ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Build a 4 card rig & mine altcoins,forget BTC mining it belongs to the large mining corps now ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The problem is that the GPU miners are more difficult to set up if you do it yourself. no way,there is nothing hard in setting GPU farms up besides,there are so many videos and instructions on how to do it,so you just cannot go wrong the main advantage of GPU farms is that you are most certainly will return at least 50-75% of your investment at any time simply selling your hardware but I agree baikal or any other x11 or Xxx miners are kings of ROI at the moment (thank you DASH and ETC and ETH pumps)
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Invest in GPU's,you can sell em for almost what bought em for,unlike ASICs all ways drop as diff increases.....& diff will all ways increase ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Build a 4 card rig & mine altcoins,forget BTC mining it belongs to the large mining corps now ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The problem is that the GPU miners are more difficult to set up if you do it yourself. no way,there is nothing hard in setting GPU farms up besides,there are so many videos and instructions on how to do it,so you just cannot go wrong the main advantage of GPU farms is that you are most certainly will return at least 50-75% of your investment at any time simply selling your hardware but I agree baikal or any other x11 or Xxx miners are kings of ROI at the moment (thank you DASH and ETC and ETH pumps) It's also easier to diagnose any issues that arise during operation and such as parts are generally cheaper and in more supply if something goes wrong; many miner parts like in the S9 can get pretty costly, and last gen miner parts are even more expensive. Even if you've never set up a computer before it's easy to make a rig; practically just pushing a few parts into place and a push of a button.
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Can someone post recommended online minning sites and online cryptocurrency exchangers
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March 24, 2017, 08:00:09 AM |
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So pretty much if im not willing to invest 5-10k it wont be worth it?
Hard to answer. But if you are USA based and have free power you could buy two Avalon 741 along with controller. Reliable should turn a profit for you. Canaan.io. Is the website. Two machines with controller and shipping are about 1900. And some psus maybe 300 so 2200 net . You would break even in a year . it is as well subject to the pricing of the electricity fee, if it rises, you have to pay more; or if you need to maintain the machine at the best condition, the fees might not allow you to break even. that would be horrible.
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Can someone post recommended online minning sites and online cryptocurrency exchangers
you are talking about cloud mining it's not recommended, it's better to buy your gear and mine with that, because cloud are never profitable, in the only case they are it require you to trade your hahs, which is the same as trading with less margin... exchange that are good for both alt and bitcoin, are poloniex and bittrex, now cryptopia start too look not bad too in my view
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March 24, 2017, 02:26:50 PM |
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Can someone post recommended online minning sites and online cryptocurrency exchangers
you are talking about cloud mining it's not recommended, it's better to buy your gear and mine with that, because cloud are never profitable, in the only case they are it require you to trade your hahs, which is the same as trading with less margin... exchange that are good for both alt and bitcoin, are poloniex and bittrex, now cryptopia start too look not bad too in my view its really hard to find cloud mining which can be profitable or can deliver in our favor better to learn mining by yourself and buy those equipment which is needed in order to mine alts, but better to check also possible cost and profits to balance if mining from your place are still good.
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May 15, 2017, 06:11:57 AM |
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Can someone post recommended online minning sites and online cryptocurrency exchangers
you are talking about cloud mining it's not recommended, it's better to buy your gear and mine with that, because cloud are never profitable, in the only case they are it require you to trade your hahs, which is the same as trading with less margin... exchange that are good for both alt and bitcoin, are poloniex and bittrex, now cryptopia start too look not bad too in my view its really hard to find cloud mining which can be profitable or can deliver in our favor better to learn mining by yourself and buy those equipment which is needed in order to mine alts, but better to check also possible cost and profits to balance if mining from your place are still good. The cloud mining is usually 3-5 times of the cost of building your own rig.
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Good day! Well it depends on which country you are in. Generally speaking, it would require a hefty amount because of electricity costs. Maybe you can share more details so we can try to diversify costs? Nonetheless, I think it is a good investment in the long run. The thing is, you would have to wait for quite a long time to realize your investments.
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May 16, 2017, 03:37:35 PM |
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Can someone post recommended online minning sites and online cryptocurrency exchangers
you are talking about cloud mining it's not recommended, it's better to buy your gear and mine with that, because cloud are never profitable, in the only case they are it require you to trade your hahs, which is the same as trading with less margin... exchange that are good for both alt and bitcoin, are poloniex and bittrex, now cryptopia start too look not bad too in my view its really hard to find cloud mining which can be profitable or can deliver in our favor better to learn mining by yourself and buy those equipment which is needed in order to mine alts, but better to check also possible cost and profits to balance if mining from your place are still good. The cloud mining is usually 3-5 times of the cost of building your own rig. the cloud mining is usually scam,there are only a few legit companies out there and they are borderline profitable (if not completely unprofitable) there is no reason to not to try and build your GPU rig instead after all you can sell your gpus for around 80% after,unlike most of the ASICS
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