Cup of Coffee

[ASHLIUSZ]

Buying a cup of coffee with bitcoin is really interesting but these days coffee is much expensive and when we pay with bitcoin it too becomes more expensive. Also now here no such availability in several countries, only limited stores accepting bitcoin for coffee and other digital goods.

[ralle14]

Buying a cup of coffee with bitcoin is really interesting but these days coffee is much expensive and when we pay with bitcoin it too becomes more expensive. Also now here no such availability in several countries, only limited stores accepting bitcoin for coffee and other digital goods.

Yeah a cup of coffee costs like what $2 if you pay in bitcoin you'll ending up paying $0.6 more because of the recommended miners fee. It's really not advisable to buy things less than $1 using bitcoin.

so which coffee shop in global could accept bitcoin? 

I think there's none.

[bravehearth0319]

Bitcoin was always supposed to be digital cash.  It even says so in the original white paper title.

Where did this myth start that we need to 'let this go'?

No one uses cash at starbucks. It's all phones, credit cards and debit cards. Try and buy a beer on a plane. They don't take cash. So saying it's like digital cash is a little outdated at this point. We're dealing with digital gold.

LOL.  I definitely use cash at Starbucks,  but I realize I'm in the minority here.  I do agree with OP that it is better to use fiat, because I *think* bitcoin is going up.  We're not exactly in the 10,000 btc/pizza era anymore,  but we're still going up.   Why spend digital gold?

Edit: hey, you're a hero member now, congrats!

No, you are wrong! here in my country you can pay to Starbucks using cash, credit card or bitcoin as payment but maybe in your place only digital payment is accepted in the outlet but not here in my place. And moreover, we don't need gold just to use it for spending.

[Fityan]

Buying a cup of coffee with bitcoin is really interesting but these days coffee is much expensive and when we pay with bitcoin it too becomes more expensive. Also now here no such availability in several countries, only limited stores accepting bitcoin for coffee and other digital goods.

some people ever talk about this,buying something with bitcoin,like a coffee,and its really happen in several country,but until now,i think asian country have bad development about bitcoin payment,my country indonesia also not familiar with this case.

[matt11235]

No one uses cash at starbucks. It's all phones, credit cards and debit cards. Try and buy a beer on a plane. They don't take cash.

I don't know where you live, but in the UK cash is still common, even with tap and go on cards. Also what planes have you been getting on? They usually take cash in a ton of different currencies.

[DomainMagnate]

Bitcoin is prohibitive for a reason: it's valuable (according to free and heavily manipulated markets), it rides vast and expensive to maintain blockchain (Go BitFury and Bitmain!), it has high fees not only to prevent spam, but to reward miners in exchange for diminishing block rewards moving forward (Greedy Bastards!). Looks perfect to me, but then again - I'm an idiot so do not take this personally.       

I'm with you. In this time the reliable fees for to make a transaction is $0.6.
There is no fast transaction, cheap transaction and anything like that.

If the fee keeps increasing and so is transaction time, bitcoin will become a storing commodity like gold instead of a digital money.
People will switch to other Altcoins for using as digital cash.

[xSkylarx]

Bitcoin was always supposed to be digital cash.  It even says so in the original white paper title.

Where did this myth start that we need to 'let this go'?

No one uses cash at starbucks. It's all phones, credit cards and debit cards. Try and buy a beer on a plane. They don't take cash. So saying it's like digital cash is a little outdated at this point. We're dealing with digital gold.

It is not true that no one uses cash in starbucks, in fact there are people who are using cash on starbucks, because not all people that go to Starbucks do have this credit card or debit card, here in our country, most of the people still prefer fiat to use in this kind of transaction rather than credit cards or debit cards. We are just using credits cards if it is really necessary like if we run out of fiat, and we don't have a choice but to use credit cards.

[danherbias07]

"A War started by Coffee"
A nice title for a movie. Saw the war at first page. 
Coffee, pizza and small things. Can't we go higher than that. We talk about foods that are poisonous. 
Oh and one said they don't use cash at coffee shop anymore. I do. Because I got a coupon of a 100 peso off at Starbucks so I would just pay 25 pesos which is 50 cents in USD. Should I still pay that in bitcoin? 

[YuginKadoya]

You can actually do anything you want with the right amount of bitcoin at hand can make a business that fits you and that would not stop right there, you can actually promote it with the service of transaction over to bitcoin, and I think making something worth while and doing your earnings with bitcoin is a thing for most people now!

[FlightyPouch]

"A War started by Coffee"
A nice title for a movie. Saw the war at first page. 
Coffee, pizza and small things. Can't we go higher than that. We talk about foods that are poisonous. 
Oh and one said they don't use cash at coffee shop anymore. I do. Because I got a coupon of a 100 peso off at Starbucks so I would just pay 25 pesos which is 50 cents in USD. Should I still pay that in bitcoin? 

You have a point, bitcoin has a high price, even if we use satoshis to buy coffees and foods that is really not that worth it. I think, car can be worth it, 10 bitclins is enough to buy a good car nowadays.

[eternalgloom]

No one uses cash at starbucks. It's all phones, credit cards and debit cards. Try and buy a beer on a plane. They don't take cash.

I don't know where you live, but in the UK cash is still common, even with tap and go on cards. Also what planes have you been getting on? They usually take cash in a ton of different currencies.

Every plane I have been on in the US refuses cash and only takes card.

You can still easily pay with cash on planes in Europe, I've taken around 4 flights last year and I was always able to buy some drinks and snacks with cash.

Now on topic, I'm personally still using Bitcoin to buy food through takeaway.com, even with the higher fees it's cheaper than using Paypal or debit card, as they charge a 1 euro fee for that.

[teilwalL05]

May I suggest to those of you who want to buy a cup of coffee with bitcoin to purchase damn coffee shop instead... This way you can enjoy your own coffee all day long, and stop chasing fantasies of making this world more fair and better place to live. Buying a few pizzas with Bitcoin proven to be very expensive proposition back in 2010, and it looks like we just refusing to let this idea go.

Bitcoin is prohibitive for a reason: it's valuable (according to free and heavily manipulated markets), it rides vast and expensive to maintain blockchain (Go BitFury and Bitmain!), it has high fees not only to prevent spam, but to reward miners in exchange for diminishing block rewards moving forward (Greedy Bastards!). Looks perfect to me, but then again - I'm an idiot so do not take this personally.       

Pizza is simple the best for me, so if there would be some Pizza parlor that would accept bitcoin, why not I would gladly order from it, and a coffee shop would really be interesting these days, if you want to achieved something with bitcoin you can surely can and a hefty sum can make you a difference in your life!

[AicecreaME]

Bitcoin was always supposed to be digital cash.  It even says so in the original white paper title.

Where did this myth start that we need to 'let this go'?

No one uses cash at starbucks. It's all phones, credit cards and debit cards. Try and buy a beer on a plane. They don't take cash. So saying it's like digital cash is a little outdated at this point. We're dealing with digital gold.

LOL.  I definitely use cash at Starbucks,  but I realize I'm in the minority here.  I do agree with OP that it is better to use fiat, because I *think* bitcoin is going up.  We're not exactly in the 10,000 btc/pizza era anymore,  but we're still going up.   Why spend digital gold?

Edit: hey, you're a hero member now, congrats!

Correct, I don't know why do people want to use bitcoin as long as they can spend it on buying or other stuffs that doesn't need for bitcoin to be used, like buying coffee? don't you think that buying coffee using bitcoin means you are throwing away your profit, and I am sure that you are trying to impress everybody that Hey, I'm a bitcoin users, I could buy anything I want with bitcoin something like this?

NO, as long as we can use fiat then there is no reason for us to use our bitcoin, unless just like what I've said, you are trying to impress everybody, because for me, it is such a waste of money if we are going to spend our bitcoin in this common things that could be bought by fiat.

[cellard]

stuff you pasted before in another thread

funny, Bitcoin seemed to be working just fine for both big and small transactions, right before blocks got congested at the artificial 1mb limit.

How about you let Bitcoin try to scale and let the free market decide if it wants to be on chain or off chain... instead of trying to force your
will on the people with these block limits?

Thats right, bitcoin was fast and cheap when nobody cared.

Satoshi talked about payment channels so he had the idea of lightning network in mind and this is where we are going, since onchain scaling at massive levels means centralized of the network which means bitcoin can be easily controlled by governments so you might as well use fiat.

[Iranus]

nobody wants to buy a cup of coffee with bitcoin, or maybe there are some people who wish they could and if you let them, they will.

but everyone wants to be able to use bitcoin as a currency. for example i want to be able to purchace a game online (worth from $5 to $50) or be able to pay for my subscription etc. and a lot more.

Exactly.  The key distinction here is that Bitcoin is a digital currency, and is by far best used and most convenient for digital items.  People like convenient payments for small everyday transactions, and that's why we have situations where you either pay with cash, which is instant, or by credit card, which for most conventional purposes is instant.  For the really small transactions, the $1-10 transactions which we go through every day, it's also much, much cheaper (in the case of Visa cards, about 0.2%).  

Bitcoin is best used for large digital transactions as fees are based on the byte which tend to result in it being a lot cheaper for large transactions, and best suited to digital transactions as it is very convenient when dealing with others online, especially people you don't trust with personal information.

[dinofelis]

Exactly.  The key distinction here is that Bitcoin is a digital currency, and is by far best used and most convenient for digital items.  People like convenient payments for small everyday transactions, and that's why we have situations where you either pay with cash, which is instant, or by credit card, which for most conventional purposes is instant.  For the really small transactions, the $1-10 transactions which we go through every day, it's also much, much cheaper (in the case of Visa cards, about 0.2%).  

Actually, I don't see what's wrong with credit cards, or other FIAT payments, like paypal.  Crypto has only a specific niche, namely when fiat cannot do it.

[megynacuna]

Exactly.  The key distinction here is that Bitcoin is a digital currency, and is by far best used and most convenient for digital items.  People like convenient payments for small everyday transactions, and that's why we have situations where you either pay with cash, which is instant, or by credit card, which for most conventional purposes is instant.  For the really small transactions, the $1-10 transactions which we go through every day, it's also much, much cheaper (in the case of Visa cards, about 0.2%).  

Actually, I don't see what's wrong with credit cards, or other FIAT payments, like paypal.  Crypto has only a specific niche, namely when fiat cannot do it.

Well there's everything wrong with the fiats because it's being controlled by the central bank and government unlike the cryptocurrencies which gives you tgat financial freedom and accessibility. Imagine your credit card gets declined or hacked . All these cannot happen to cryptocurrencies.

[Vaccinus]

Exactly.  The key distinction here is that Bitcoin is a digital currency, and is by far best used and most convenient for digital items.  People like convenient payments for small everyday transactions, and that's why we have situations where you either pay with cash, which is instant, or by credit card, which for most conventional purposes is instant.  For the really small transactions, the $1-10 transactions which we go through every day, it's also much, much cheaper (in the case of Visa cards, about 0.2%).  

Actually, I don't see what's wrong with credit cards, or other FIAT payments, like paypal.  Crypto has only a specific niche, namely when fiat cannot do it.

paypal is scamming you with 3.5% fee this is higher than bitcoin man, and this is what wrong with their system, with debit or credit card is the same many credit or debit card want a high fee per year for their usage, only few of them i think are totally free but they can close your bank account for some random reason, just read soem story on reddit about this, no one can close my bitcoin wallet

[Kabul]

 Agree. Although there is only one coffee shop which accepts Bitcoin in my country, I usually spend Bitcoin to buy something there and it is good to taste the coffee which is purchased by Bitcoin, it is much better and more delicious than buying it with traditional currencies

[jak3]

i think all that kaos started after recent blockhalving, because officially it effected a huge step on the miners and now the miner can not able to bear the heavy block difficulty load. We know that these days mining fees is very high but is it sutable of buying a cup of coffee?