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March 23, 2017, 02:31:47 AM
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Hello, my username on fortunejack WAS Sexdrugsroknroll but my account has been suspended cause fortunejack claims that i have multiple accounts when i do not, ive asked them to send me the username of the other account that they think is mine and they wont. A few days ago I deposited .026 btc to my account and ended up winning .5 btc. When i went to withdrawal my winnings my withdrawals never went through so i contacted support to see what the problem was, they said they were holding onto my winnings and that id get them back after they were done investigating my account. Well i went to log in to my account today and it has been suspended. and they never sent me any of my winnings. I asked them to at least send me back the amount that I deposited and they refused to do so. I would  consider this theft. Beings that I really did nothing wrong. Unless I had created an account there a long time ago and forgot about it, which is why i asked them to send me the username so i could confirm whether it was an account i had created or not..but they wont even do that.. So I just wanted to let you all know that you should probably avoid this casino unless you want your money stolen from you. Thanks for reading and Good Luck. ..
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Hello  SexDrugsNRockNRoll

Please follow the format of accusing someone here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0, dont forget to add some strong evidence of this accusation and give some additional details/notes. For now lets just wait until some DT members notice this to tag the accused person.

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March 23, 2017, 07:38:27 AM
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Watching for more information.

Side note (regardless of validity of this story): I'm starting to get sick of services withholding the users money for random reasons (often due to their own incompetence).


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March 25, 2017, 11:46:49 AM
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I've also lost over 3btc to fortune jack recently. With the same scam as OP, saying I have multiple accounts, I dont, I even said they could send the withdrawal to the same address I used to deposit it.


Please avoid Fortune Jack like the plague, DO NOT DEPOSIT your coins at Fortune Jack, they are scammers


I've been emailing FJ back and forth for a month, same shit, then today we've cancelled your withdrawal and taken your coins.
For the sake of others losing their coins we need to alert the community, and not let these scammers steal more.


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March 26, 2017, 11:38:05 PM
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I have used there site in past but never got a chance to withdraw. I see that few people have given fortunejack red trust let's just wait for their reply and also next time i would recommend you to invest on site which have an option for instant payments as lately these profit scams have been occurring a lot

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March 27, 2017, 07:33:32 AM
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Dear Community Members,

We would like to inform you that the account of user SexDrugsRokNRol has been suspended by FortuneJack's Fraud department for multi-accounting and abuse of our bonus system.

As stated by our security policy noted in FortuneJack’s Terms and Conditions: multi-accounting is considered a fraudulent activity and is therefore prohibited.

In case of detecting connection between multiple registered player-accounts FortuneJack's Fraud department reserves the right to execute any or all of the following actions:

- Putting any outgoing/incoming transactions on hold.
- Temporarily restraining any gaming activity.
- Permanently closing suspected user-account.
- Permanently closing all IP-associated user-accounts. 

The registered player account at question has been found linked to 207 accounts in total.

As a proof, we will provide you with the full list of all associated registered user-accounts and IP’s if the dispute is not resolved after this post.

Account suspension for multi-accounting is permanent and will not be discussed any further.

We thank our community members for taking their time and being actively involved in the discussion as well as giving this claim against our casino their best judgment.

We hope this will conclude current discussion.

Best Regards,
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March 27, 2017, 10:57:28 AM
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In case of detecting connection between multiple registered player-accounts FortuneJack's Fraud department reserves the right to execute any or all of the following actions:

- Putting any outgoing/incoming transactions on hold.
- Temporarily restraining any gaming activity.
- Permanently closing suspected user-account.
- Permanently closing all IP-associated user-accounts. 
Is this clearly stated in your ToS?

The registered player account at question has been found linked to 207 accounts in total.
Is OP the same user as the one in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1841919.0 ?


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March 27, 2017, 03:05:18 PM
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This multi-accounting BS is just a scam, FortuneJack.com know their users will log in via a shared IP, vpn, tor dynamic IP etc, hell several people in one household could have an account, fortunejack.com is just using this to justify stealing peoples bitcoins. As they said 207 accounts have been closed, due to this multi-accounting BS they invented, that's a lot of bitcoin they've taken from honest users.


DO NOT USE FortuneJack.com UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE SCAMMED


I will donate .5 bitcoin to bitcointalk to get FortuneJack.com removed and sticked in the scammers list. I dont want others to get burned by these guys.



FortuneJack.com as explained in the emails, I do not have multiple accounts, I did not even use your bonus system, I lost money playing on your site and you scammed me out of > 3btc.

What is the name of the FortuneJack.com owner and address so I can pursue you legally.
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March 27, 2017, 06:34:17 PM
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This case actually seems weird because lately so many scam accusations are been made against fortunejack and the reason is also same for all the accusation. It's better to stay away from fortunejack for any sort of gambling for now. And also if that user did use multiple accounts he had invested more than 3 btc so it's better you refund his money.

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March 27, 2017, 06:38:10 PM
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Watching for more information.

Side note (regardless of validity of this story): I'm starting to get sick of services withholding the users money for random reasons (often due to their own incompetence).

The thing i am getting sick for is the amount of brand new accounts accusing fortunejack to steal them. Check the other accusations, they are all made by newbies, maybe this is just a vendetta agains fortunejack.

@OP

Could you please provide proofs like Screens or links to anything that could actually show that FortuneJack have effectively taken your money ?


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March 27, 2017, 10:30:03 PM
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In case of detecting connection between multiple registered player-accounts FortuneJack's Fraud department reserves the right to execute any or all of the following actions:

- Putting any outgoing/incoming transactions on hold.
- Temporarily restraining any gaming activity.
- Permanently closing suspected user-account.
- Permanently closing all IP-associated user-accounts. 
Is this clearly stated in your ToS?

TOS: http://prnt.sc/ep8r28 
So yeah, they are allowed to do that.

This case actually seems weird because lately so many scam accusations are been made against fortunejack and the reason is also same for all the accusation. It's better to stay away from fortunejack for any sort of gambling for now. And also if that user did use multiple accounts he had invested more than 3 btc so it's better you refund his money.
What is actually weird are 3 scam accusation without any proof. Also, if he broke their TOS they don't have to give him back anything. He could be involved in money laundry activity or even terrorism which is also one reason to take all funds(which is also stated in their TOS).

Watching for more information.

Side note (regardless of validity of this story): I'm starting to get sick of services withholding the users money for random reasons (often due to their own incompetence).

The thing i am getting sick for is the amount of brand new accounts accusing fortunejack to steal them. Check the other accusations, they are all made by newbies, maybe this is just a vendetta agains fortunejack.
I might be wrong, but those posts looks like one person wrote them. Also CrabsHulu is very unclear about his accusation - "they took me >3btc, i lost them, i tried to withdraw, i hold them for month etc." and his accusation is without any proof.

BUT

I would like to see proofs from FJ as well, IP can give false positive result.

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Never trust an IP log, as thezy can be easily spoofed/changed/faked/proxies/VPN. I do believe it is a vendetta agains fortunejack, only newbie accounts, maybe they can give us more informations about the users to see how they are related.
As i aleready said, these scam accusations without proof, made by newbies, are a nightmare for both the forum (spams) and the targeted platform (fake accusations).


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March 30, 2017, 12:00:09 AM
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Never trust an IP log, as thezy can be easily spoofed/changed/faked/proxies/VPN. I do believe it is a vendetta agains fortunejack, only newbie accounts, maybe they can give us more informations about the users to see how they are related.
As i aleready said, these scam accusations without proof, made by newbies, are a nightmare for both the forum (spams) and the targeted platform (fake accusations).
In this case, FortuneJack themselves have basically admitted/explicitly stated that OP's account, SexDrugsRokNRol did exist, and they did say that they have closed/suspended that account.

So, OP's claim that his winnings were held and account closed is true, else FJ woulda debunked that.

As for the cause, 'multi-accounting', if FJ's fraud department are basing all these on IP's then, as mentioned before, that could indeed lead to false positives. However, if there were other suspicious points as well, like ref-linking/faucet farming/etc, then that's another matter entirely.

I do hope FJ would clear it up and say more. As a player myself, it's not comfortable seeing so many 'winnings seized account closed multi-account' sort of things.



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March 30, 2017, 06:01:51 AM
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Fortunejack, you know very well that people never read the terms and services.

When people use bitcoin to gamble there is only one reason. To be anonymous. And when you are anonymous that means you are able to register as many accounst as you want to wwithout having to be limited.

Now, whats the point of your rule of no multi accounting anyways? You guys aren't a sportsbook. All your games are -EV and you should be happy that people are using multiple accounts to bet as that generates more volume for you guys. Does Just-Dice or primedice prosecute people for having multiple accounts? Absolutely not.














 

 

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March 30, 2017, 11:10:24 AM
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Fortunejack, you know very well that people never read the terms and services.
You can't be serious

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March 30, 2017, 11:16:08 AM
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Fortunejack, you know very well that people never read the terms and services.
You can't be serious

He is serious and he is right. I never read ToS, it is boring as fuck. (Do you read Apple ToS every time you update your iphone?) Instead, i use my common sense. One should've known that using multiple accounts may bring trouble and should have asked the customer service.

I am not supporting fortunejack btw.
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March 30, 2017, 08:43:39 PM
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He is serious and he is right.
No, he is not right. It's clear said in TOS multiple accounts are not allowed.

I never read ToS, it is boring as fuck.
Sure, lots of scam accusations came because people don't read TOS.

Do you read Apple ToS every time you update your iphone?
I don't have iphone.  Shocked

One should've known that using multiple accounts may bring trouble
This is not true, you are allowed to use multiple accounts in lots of sites.

should have asked the customer service.
Why? Everything is in TOS. You can't read or what?

Instead, i use my common sense.
You use common sense and still you are writing nonsense.

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March 31, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
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Greetings, dear community members.

Since the player at question continues to claim that he had only one registered account in his possession with FortuneJack we find it essential to provide you with the proof of fraudulent activity which the player has been performing :

We ask our community members to have a look at the following Wallet Address - 14Tz8AHPuV6oWRvMaUTeDsw2focEDDtaZa
which in addition to IP Address is shared between multiple accounts registered with FortuneJack.

Each of the mentioned accounts has withdrawn funds to the wallet address mentioned above.



Each of the following accounts has been receiving promotional bonuses which include -

100% First Deposit Bonus
50% Second Deposit Bonus
TomHorn 100% Bonus


As stated in company's Terms and Conditions only ONE bonus is allowed per household IP.

Activity of player SexDrugsRokNRol goes directly against FortuneJack's T&C and resulted in player's account being suspended.

FortuneJack casino is paying hundreds of bitcoins in Jackpots and big wins on weekly basis.
We are always on the side of our dear community members, however have zero tolerance towards individuals breaking established company rules and participating in fraud.
If further false accusations shall persist from the user who has broken company's T&C - FortuneJack will be persuading Bitcointalk administration to take according measures.

This message will serve as the warning for any possible future attempts at performing fraudulent activities at FortuneJack's casino as well as trying to assault FortuneJack's name and reputation with false claims within Bitcoin community.

We would like to thank our active community members for respecting established company rules and not losing faith in FortuneJack despite these false accusations.

Best regards,
FortuneJack team.

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March 31, 2017, 11:26:40 AM
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As of me, FortuneJack have the right to suspend these accounts, especially if they have the same ip AND the same bitcoin address.
If they have different IPs or different Addresses, i wouldn't agree with FJ because it could be false positive.
OP should think twice before accusing a service of scam, and launching a vendetta against them.


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April 04, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
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Funny  Cheesy

Classic "I've been scammed by [COMPANY NAME]" accusation. Member trying to scam a company and then member playing victim card when company knows what they did.
It's like you sending fake traffic to your Youtube video. Your Adsense got banned. Then you call Youtube is a "supermassive blackhole scam" while lots of youtube content creator still get paid.

If they steal money under 1 BTC, can you explain why my withdrawal processed without any problems.

Oh boi. You need page 2? nvm

Breaking rules to get more benefits it's your fault.


Sorry if my english is too bad. I came here just for fun, show off and waiting my pending withdrawal Cheesy
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