**sipa commented Mar 18, 2017**
Bitcoin Core's maintainers do not, and do not want to, decide what the network's rules are. If there is widespread agreement about a change, it will be merged.
**gmaxwell commented Mar 27, 2017**
trolling like this is exhausting. Submitting broken code that doesn't even pass its own self-tests and would totally break the network, over and over again... is just a waste of everyone's time. It's not funny, people are working here.
Just look at the audacity of Greg and Pieter blatantly lying like that, it's as if they don't even know they're on the internet and whatever bullshit they spew will stay for eternity.
There is no lie in this quote.
50000 lines HF size bloated piece of shit gets merged with dirty tactics, while simple 1 line code change that solves actual problem are blocked instantly.
All Hyena did was trying to help Core change one line of code, changing the block size limit from 1M to 4M, and a pull request is really just a suggestion, but they immediately locked the request, blocked others from replying, then accused Hyena of being a troll trying to break the Bitcoin network.
He is a troll, he admitted he was trolling and all active devs agree it would break bitcoin.
Greg, seriously, are you fucking kidding me? Do you even understand Bitcoin?
Are you claiming that you understand the technical underpinnings of bitcoin better than an active dev? What aren't you making proposals?
Do you even know Bitcoin is having a transaction jam right now? Satoshi wanted to increase the block size a long time ago at block 115000, we're now at block 459208, that is 344208 blocks ago, at 10 minutes per block that is 3,442,080 minutes ago, which is 2390 days ago, so we are already 6.5 years late on changing that limit.
Its not a jam, its how the system was designed by Satoshi, Satoshi put the limit, and never said he wanted to remove, which is why the debate exists, and there no quote of him giving his subjective feelings or intentions.
As of this moment the mempool has 52428 unconfirmed transactions, at average 1800 tx per block, it will takes 30 blocks just to clear them, 30 blocks x 10 minutes per block = 300 minutes = 5 hours.
And we have seen way worse and the price continues to climb which is empirical evidence that there is no problem.
You say 'people are working here', but just wtf have you guys been actually doing? For the entire fucking year? What is so god damn difficult changing just one line of code and remove the jam?
They are fixing REAL problems that active developers understand you don't. Of course you are going crazy because you think one line needs to be fixed and can't figure out why they are listening to some random kid on the internet.
And that arrogance, fuck me, it's as if everyone at Blockstream, not being able to solve simple problems, somehow think they are all smarter than Satoshi. Seriously, just go back to
http://nakamotoinstitute.org/ and read the first line:
Satoshi: I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party."
You didn't understand Satoshi, and you don't understand that whitepapers do not speak to political implications like you are asserting.
See that bold part Greg? That's right, developers ARE the third party, Satoshi didn't trust developers and he didn't fucking trust you.
You think Satoshi didn't trust the developers? You think Satoshi trusted randoms users opinions like yours? Over active devs like Maxwell, and every other active dev, that CLEARLY disagrees with you?
So print that quote, stick it on your monitor, read it over and over again every morning until that simple message gets through your head, then, slowly and carefully, step off that imaginary pedestal and stop pretending to be the fucking embodiment of Bitcoin itself.
You are obsessed with Greg, but he doesn't control bitcoin any more than the others.
You guys weren't even there until 4 years after Satoshi was gone and you guys wasted 2 years and still failed to solve a simple transaction jam problem everyone else saw coming, over 6 years ago.
Its not actually a problem which is why its not a priority to be solved.
But, after reading your code, I found a big problem, that FukWit of yours is so complex
I don't believe you read, and its certainly not bad because its too complex for you to understand, and its been created by the premier developers in the industry so who are you to act as if its not good just because you claim you read it and you say so?
We are already in a transaction jam right now, not a year later, it IS happening, someone was trying to help you deal with this, but instead of thanking him, you insulted him, so what's going on? Are you telling me we have to give you another year to deal with this, just because Satoshi vanished and some fucking late comer funded by AXA kicked Gavin out and took the Bitcoin code base hostage?
You are never getting your way, and we've been laughing at you for years for not realizing Satoshi lied to you ;p
Greg, I know they own you so I never expected much from you, but the miners already compromised on FukWit in 2016 but then you guys lied and broke the agreement. Now I have to wait hours to dump my coins and your stall tactics,
Prove you are dumping your coins and not just lying.
messiah complex and that air of cockiness really irritates me.
You've been slowing everyone down and now you're insulting people who is just offering to help? Just who the hell do you think you are?
Greg is an active dev on the project one of the more outspoken and sincere proponents who spend his day clearing up misconceptions that people like you TRY to perpetuate. You are literally insulting him and lying about saying he is insulting people in the same quote. You refute yourself and show your colors.
For your home work, read this again:
http://nakamotoinstitute.org/Grasp the basic concept of you, as a developer, is an UNTRUSTED THIRD PARTY of the blockchain that everyone else is using.
No this is not how bitcoin works, the developers are not consider third parties that are not trustable to work on the system. The whole concept of core and the proposal process Satoshi birthed is the basis for decentralization. I don't believe you have read the literature you are linking to. And I don't believe you understand what the development process works, which is probably why you are frustrated and spouting conspiracy language and FUD.
Then read what Satoshi said on 2010 about increasing the blocksize limit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347.msg15366#msg15366Quote from: satoshi on October 04, 2010, 07:48:40 PMIt can be phased in, like:
if (blocknumber > 115000) maxblocksize = largerlimit
It can start being in versions way ahead, so by the time it reaches that block number and goes into effect, the older versions that don't have it are already obsolete.
When we're near the cutoff block number, I can put an alert to old versions to make sure they know they have to upgrade.
Nowhere in here does say when we will do this, or that we must do it, or that we should do it, or that Satoshi is planning on doing. And Satoshi isn't even here to do what he said he COULD do anyways.
The system is working perfect as designed.
Think about the problem Bitcoin users in the real world are actually facing, no, stop looking at that Blockstream pay check, stop dreaming about future stock options, get back to reality for one second and think about what we, Bitcoin users, are actually facing, right now, at this very moment.
No. If the users controlled bitcoins fate it would crash instantly that's why no one is listening to you, because no one that matters cares about your uneducated emotionally driven opinion is.
Then take your time, sleep over it, and decide your next move wisely, while you still have a choice in this matter.
Greg has been trying to explain to you, he doesn't control bitcoin, no person does, its the first thing you need to learn about bitcoin. He can't fix your problem even if he wanted to. But he doesn't, none of the active devs do, because its an insignificant problem.
